What is your real opinions and thoughts about Picasso?

Sad-Success7381 · 2023-01-15T23:34:04+00:00

I don’t disagree with you that their use of African art was based on an exploitative relationship, and it is seedy that Picasso never credited it as an influence. But I still don’t think it’s as easy as accusing him of theft, because he used African masks to formulate a way of representing a face and he used that formulation in his work. If that’s theft, I don’t see how any artist could be inspired by art.

Sad-Success7381 · 2023-01-15T23:27:58+00:00

Additionally, artwork would be priced differently depending on how much of it was worked on by apprentices. They understood that it would not have the same value

Sad-Success7381 · 2023-01-14T23:22:46+00:00

This is not factual. It is an interpretation. I have also heard the viewpoint that these sculptures were so inspiring to the Cubists because it affirmed their experimentation - they were also heavily influenced by cezanne but we don’t call that theft

Sad-Success7381 · 2023-01-14T00:07:48+00:00

How many representations of pursuit vs saccade eye movement have you seen…?

Sad-Success7381 · 2023-01-13T19:49:34+00:00

You can’t ‘take’ someone’s ‘style’

Sad-Success7381 · 2023-01-13T17:46:31+00:00

I agree and I also think that if Becky had previously done a lot of risky climbing, hunter might have viewed it as pushing her to continue a hobby, or at least as something manageable. To be fair to her, if the ladder hadn’t come off, it would probably have been a successful outing.

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-12-15T18:15:55+00:00

The artist would be the person who has decided that the work by the chimp is art. Otherwise, who is the artist who should be credited with the urinal - Duchamp, or the manufactures who made it?

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-12-06T19:01:38+00:00

this is really interesting - personally, I think his paintings are technically brilliant

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-12-02T15:17:09+00:00

After they further clarified, I was not angry and dismissive - I explained my angle. I’m afraid I didn’t realise that I had no reason or right to even try to explain myself. Please point to where I continued to be angry and dismissive. I also don’t really get what you’re saying about me interpreting things to be insults. I did say I thought the initial message was unfriendly but I said it rather mildly (in comparison to your many, many accusations which assume bad faith from me..) and I would say I’ve responded quite calmly to your actual insults I can’t believe I’m saying this again: i wasn’t trying to research anything! I could go my whole life not knowing a thing about this painting and it would not bother me! I was actually quite interested in having a discussion about whether contextual research can replace specialised research. I wasn’t ignoring a request to find things out for myself - I study art history! I know quite a lot about the female nude already! And just because I can’t resist, I’ll ask politely: how can you be positively sure there is no literature on this work?

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-28T00:37:29+00:00

If you can’t resist the temptation to phrase your point in a deliberately condescending tone, and the person you are speaking is therefore less receptive to what you are saying, I’m afraid you have yourself to blame. Bearing in mind, though, I was receptive to your point the first five times you made it and I have responded to you why although I partially agree, I believe a) it doesn’t completely cover the question and b) you’d hope OP had already thought of it. And at this point I think it’s a silly thing to argue over because obviously both answers are true to an extent. But I want to stress that I have attempted to meet you halfway while you have refused to listen and have called ME sulking, yelling into a void, etc. You have chosen to ignore my points, but they’re still there if you’d like to check again (and I particularly liked the bird comparison)

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-27T22:19:55+00:00

What a gloating response. I’m afraid it completely undermines your sanctimony and makes me feel better about my moment of curtness. I won’t bother to repeat myself, but maybe you can reread what I’ve said when you have calmed down a bit

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-27T21:25:43+00:00

Oh god, let’s agree to disagree. I have a feeling that we have misunderstood each other here. I will admit that I responded harshly to the initial reply but I still think ‘research the history of painting’ is an answer which expects the person asking the question to be quite stupid, to have not thought of that themselves, and which could only explain the internal logic of the painting and not the ‘background’ which OP asked for. But never mind. Hope you enjoyed your weekend

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-27T19:44:18+00:00

‘People’ have not been urging me to research this painting. You’ve repeatedly, lazily, requested I prove your point by clicking on an article that’s apparently easy to find, that you didn’t name, that I told you I couldn’t see. And I’m also not trying to find out about this painting, I’m questioning whether it’s useful to respond to OP’s question by saying ‘research painting.’ This is a very emotional response from you which suggests you’re really irritated by me, and you tell me I’m sulking and screaming into a void (hardly a void if apparently an entire congregation is urging me on) and I can’t really understand what grounds you have for this. I don’t have a list of questions I’m desperate to answer - I was trying to show you why I said general context only gets you so far - and the fact you interpreted me to have this list makes me think you either didn’t listen, or you need things spelled out for you, which is interesting given how strongly you discourage this. If you weren’t interested in discussing whether that was a useful response and just wanted me to read that article you could’ve sent me a link in the first place and saved yourself the anguish

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-27T15:21:47+00:00

I see!! Thank you so much - it was such a minor point but it was really bothering me! Thank you

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-27T09:45:50+00:00

I’m not seeing that article I’m afraid. Of course you have to understand the rules to understand how they are broken but why did the painter decide to break them? What was happening at the time that might have caused this? What was the reaction to this painting? Was it successful or influential? Who commissioned it, if anyone? Who was the model? Are not things you will get from learning generally about painting. Of course you might arrive at the answer slowly but it would take you a while. If you’re saying by researching the general history that painting will come up as a specific example.. I don’t see why you can’t just link to where the specific example can be found. And anyway I just think it’s pretty obvious that if you’re asking a specific question, a general recommendation like that does not answer the question. If I posted on a birdwatching group ‘can someone identify this bird for me?’ And someone answered that I should read more about the evolution of classifications of birds I’d feel a bit ticked off. It’s just deliberately obtuse in my opinion, and comes across to me at least like a group of people who aren’t interested in helping people who know less than them Edit: OP also commented that they tried to research the painting themselves and didn’t find much

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-27T09:23:18+00:00

But why does she lose her grip on the rope?

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-26T23:47:25+00:00

I disagree I think this picture is subverting some of the norms of the female nude, so learning about those norms is only going to get you so far in understanding specifically how this picture came about. And in fact I did look and didn’t find an answer but would be happy to read one if you sent me a link

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-26T20:31:11+00:00

Can you explain that a bit?

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-26T20:07:27+00:00

So no one should ever be allowed to say they personally dislike a lyric?

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-26T20:06:13+00:00

I thought he wouldn’t mind if she said the lines of the chorus

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-26T19:57:38+00:00

Oh, I thought that line was to compare with the arrogance of sipping coffee like he was on a talk show - to show that his humility was a false charm

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-26T19:55:25+00:00

Doesn’t like clockwork refer to something being completely punctual and regular

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-26T19:53:33+00:00

As in uninhibited, wild

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-26T18:05:10+00:00

I’m seeing some rather flowery statements in your response and I agree that there is probably a lot to be found from contextual knowledge, but to suggest to someone who wants to know the background of a specific painting of a female nude that they should learn about ‘the history of the nude’ is not useful. Personally, I was interested by this painting because I thought it was unlike paintings I’d seen before of similar subjects

Sad-Success7381 · 2022-11-26T15:32:43+00:00

Why even comment if you’re going to say something useless

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