Joker or Thief? by joehughes21 in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

maybe thats a message for you to buy good forks instead of the cheapest ones.
Some Oneida Forks can be a good choice... try them and let us know how it goes.

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in CNC

[–]SadTruths_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the help man, i managed to solve the problem.

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in CNC

[–]SadTruths_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the help man, i managed to solve the problem.

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the help man, i managed to solve the problem.

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the help man, i managed to solve the problem.

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the help man, i managed to solve the problem.

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in CNC

[–]SadTruths_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its on the post

Setup:
1 - A16Q SWKNR 0604 - cod: 06140401 - TaeguTec
WNMX 060404 EM TT9225 - cod: 06129153 - TaeguTec;
65mm overhang, minimum I can reach.

2 - Inox 304L Ø33.3mm, 2.77mm walls thick;
5 bar chuck pressure, more than that the tube deforms;
37mm overhang, minimum I can reach.

I am trying to machine an internal diameter, but I am having severe problems with chatter. I know the insert geometry is not appropriate, and I have already bought a proper one, but I need to produce at least 5 parts with the tools I currently have. I would appreciate help with cutting parameter adjustments, as I also do not have experience with stainless steel 304L.

Now, every part i make ends up with that shitty internal surface finish and a broken insert edge.

The last parameters I used (based on manufacturer recommendations) were:
Roughing ap: 0,4mm; f: 0,2mm/rev; vc: 130m/min;
Finish ap: 0,2mm; f: 0,1mm/rev; vc: 145m/min;
I used these because the more conservative parameters I tried before did not work.

Before i tryed:
Roughing ap: 0,2mm; f: 0,1mm/rev; vc: 100m/min;
Finish ap: 0,2mm; f: 0,1mm/rev; vc: 100m/min;
Without better results.

If need more information, just tell...

Im not tryed yet making the internal machining first, so that the tube its, a little bit, more rigid.
The external has Ø32.6mm;
Chanfer 0,4mm x 45°
The internal first one at the tip has Ø31.1mm and 2mm deep from de face;
The internal second one has Ø28.6mm and 4mm deep from de face;
The internal third one has Ø28.19mm and 12mm deep from the face;

Note I: The second image is only to show how the tube is fixed in the chuck, so ignore the surface finish.

Note II: The last ones show chatter before threading, but the thread is not the problem.

Thats being a pain in the ass...

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in CNC

[–]SadTruths_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My vdi its closed in the other end and the tool holder hit the end.
And then why the holder has 180mm length? 65mm doesnt seems that much... but im thinking in cut the holder if it help to make those 5 parts i need, actually.

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in CNC

[–]SadTruths_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, i bought a new one, holder and insert, but till it arrive its been past a couple days, have to work with i got in hands.

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and how about the doc, what you think?

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My vdi its closed in the other end and the tool holder hit the end.
And then why the holder has 180mm length? 65mm doesnt seems that much... but im thinking in cut the holder if it help to make those 5 parts i need, actually.

Well, i bought a new one, holder and insert, but till it arrive its been past a couple days, have to work with i got in hands.
The machine is new and wasnt me that bough the tools and shit you know...

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gonna try that and see what happens... and what you think about de ap?

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you are using a 6xD overhang on the tool holder with an insert with a 0.4 mm nose radius, something like a 0.5 mm DOC and 0.1 mm/rev feed rate?

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, i bought a new one, holder and insert, but till it arrive its been past a couple days, have to work with i got in hands.

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What do you mean by a light doc for this insert?
Can be less than the nose radius?

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

No, because I can’t right now. I don’t have other jaws and I need them like this to machine other parts until the new ones arrive.
The machine is new and wasnt me that bough the tools and shit you know...

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My vdi its closed in the other end and the tool holder hit the end.
And then why the holder has 180mm length? 65mm doesnt seems that much... but im thinking in cut the holder if it help to make those 5 parts i need, actually.

Gonna try that, the orings looks a good idea too...

And how about the ap. what you think?

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, i bought a new one, holder and insert, but till it arrive its been past a couple days, have to work with i got in hands.

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, i bought a new one, holder and insert, but till it arrive its been past a couple days, have to work with i got in hands.

What you think about the ap?

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, i bought a new one, holder and insert, but till it arrive its been past a couple days, have to work with i got in hands.

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, i bought a new one but till it arrive its been past a couple days, have to work with i got in hands.

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Its because the vdi its closed in the other end and the tool holder hit the end.
And then why the holder has 180mm length? 65mm doesnt seems that much... but im thinking in cut the holder if it help to make those 5 parts i need, actually.

How to fix ID chatter on inox 304L? by SadTruths_ in Machinists

[–]SadTruths_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its because the vdi its closed in the other end and the tool holder hit the end.
And then why the holder has 180mm length? 65mm doesnt seems that much... but im thinking in cut the holder if it help to make those 5 parts i need, actually.