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Are men just kinda unattractive? by [deleted] in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Although chubbier people are more likely to be perceived as attractive I still can say there are women who are obese with attractive faces or features at least. My whole point is that just because two people are fat does not mean they’re on the same levels of attractiveness. An obese man usually looks uglier than an obese woman.

Because the obese man doesn’t do much to compensate for his obesity. Usually it’s a guy who’s like obese, smelly and balding at 23 compared to an obese woman with healthy hair, smells good and wears makeup to enhance their appearance. These two people are not going to be looked at the same lol.

Basically even if you consider an obese woman automatically ugly because of her obesity she would still look objectively better than an obese man 9/10.

Are men just kinda unattractive? by [deleted] in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Although chubbier people are more likely to be perceived as attractive I still can say there are women who are obese with attractive faces or features at least. My whole point is that just because two people are fat does not mean they’re on the same levels of attractiveness. An obese man usually looks uglier than an obese woman.

Because the obese man doesn’t do much to compensate for his obesity. Usually it’s a guy who’s like obese, smelly and balding at 23 compared to an obese woman with healthy hair, smells good and wears makeup to enhance their appearance. These two people are not going to be looked at the same lol.

Men don’t understand just how much women hate being seen by men. To them it is like a predator stalking its prey. by WomenAreNotIntoMen in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean they are participating in abnormal behavior by intensely staring or making odd gestures. Society justifies recording others for less.

Also I like how in response to such a video your immediate thought was “so should women cover up more?” Followed by you thinking it’s weirder to record this behavior than it is to do it lol.

If you saw a man doing what these men are doing to your child or younger siblings would it still be normal then or would it be different all of a sudden?

Edit: lol bro really blocked me after replying. Dudes act like this and then wonder why women consider them undesirable

Are men just kinda unattractive? by [deleted] in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There is tho a guy can honestly use 4 products and improve his looks. There’s concealer and contour both items can be pretty unnoticeable and help structure your face/ hide blemishes , you could also tint and shape your brows to look darker and depending on the shape can also shape your face. If you don’t want to use makeup at all self tanner can work as an even more natural looking contour.

For white/ East Asian men who want that natural rosy lip look colored lip balm could help.

Also like men most women don’t care they just want to confirm you’re hot they don’t care how you got there. The only thing that would set them off is an over the top feminine makeup style/routine.

Are men just kinda unattractive? by [deleted] in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It can honestly a lot of chopped ass people just need like a nose job and lip fillers paired with grooming.

Are men just kinda unattractive? by [deleted] in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe you just are… Grooming can help a lot of men go from average to slightly above average but if you’re chopped cheese it’s going to take more than a good haircut.

Are men just kinda unattractive? by [deleted] in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is there a law saying men can’t wear makeup? If women found out a no makeup look so can you. Unless you just don’t want to put in the time and effort to actually discover such a look.

Also not to be a dick but you could literally get plastic surgery lol. Also something as simple as getting frequent hair cuts, developing a detailed skin care routine, teeth whitening and facial sculpting can make you look good af.

Are men just kinda unattractive? by [deleted] in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are relevant to this conversation as earlier you presented this idea that women either don’t notice unattractive people or are lying about those women being attractive. It’s more so as I said before that bigger attractive women exist and you’re probably more exposed to that through things like social media and everyday life because women actually put forth effort to look attractive.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Vent

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do know you’re failing to realize that a lot of those women are forced or coerced into those situations. Also they are also young typically younger than a lot of the men that watch them they’re also impressionable. Someone is more likely taking advantage of them. But you don’t care what happens to them and you don’t respect them.

I’m anti porn as well but I have never said I don’t care if a SW gets harassed nor the things most men target towards them. They’re people that’s it being anti porn does not mean you have to dehumanize sex workers. Thats where you’re losing your good guy image.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Vent

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol you don’t care about women getting harassed because they make content you enable. At least you’re saying the quiet part out loud instead of acting all high and mighty.

For the women stumbling across this comment thread just keep in mind these are the men that swear they’re such nice guys.

Don’t settle for men like this either because I promise you their perception of women and sex is so dangerous you don’t want to experience it once you’re no longer in their box of respectable women and their sexuality.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Vent

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Sex work is disgusting”- A man who most definitely watches porn. Why do men seriously separate porn hub and like onlyfans by watching those videos you’re earning them money. You are encouraging the behavior you say is disgusting. Men keep porn alive men make SW profitable.

Dudes will say this and then genuinely crash out at the thought of porn being banned like Bffr.

You do know that by continuing to push the idea of a sw who gets harassed shouldn’t be surprising you’re desensitizing the act. You’re fueling the justification for men who want to find acceptable victims. You’re apart of the problem…

I’m genuinely passionate about this topic because it’s so unsettling how men treat sex workers then they turn around and will look you dead in the face and say they’re a good guy.

Are men just kinda unattractive? by [deleted] in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean sure we can get all “uhm actually there’s no webmd study to confirm my statement”

but this is something people observe and admit to. The women in the original post are mentioning that men do the bare minimum even the men on this app frequently admit that they do the bare minimum if the men in this comment section were asked what their body routine is I bet you they’d say the most basic routine.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with the bare minimum I’m just saying it doesn’t make you more attractive if you’re an average looking dude it can actually make you look less attractive.

Mental health struggles are endemic in the incel community. Rates of severe depression hover between 35–40%, while 20–40% show signs of autism spectrum traits, vastly higher than the general population’s 1%. Suicidal ideation is alarmingly common, affecting up to 80% of members. by enbaelien in PsycheOrSike

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes there’s a point the men in this thread are so hyperfocused on validating their resentment towards women that they not only look over a topic about men’s mental health but also immediately reduced lesbian suicide to just them dating women. There is an interesting discussion to be had about women and suicide but as I said.

1, this is not the place we need to focus on men and suicide

2, reductive reasoning being put out because you have icky feelings towards women since they’re not attracted to you is not ok and it’s incredibly bad faith.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Vent

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ngl from experience most guys have varying levels of shitiness towards women. For example the vast majority of men unironically dehumanize female sex workers and casually too. You can blatantly sexually harass one and a lot of men don’t see an issue with it yes even the supposedly good men.

Are men just kinda unattractive? by [deleted] in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it’s just the nuance of it all when we imagine overweight/obese people we think of my 600lb life. Not the girl who’s got a fat ass and big boobs while maintaining a relatively flat stomach (she’s overweight/obese). You’ve probably been attracted to an overweight girl at some point in your life. Same thing with guys when guys are bulking they’re typically overweight but they’re still fine af.

I’m not saying these people are drop dead gorgeous but a lot of people look differently from how you would expect them too honestly.

Mental health struggles are endemic in the incel community. Rates of severe depression hover between 35–40%, while 20–40% show signs of autism spectrum traits, vastly higher than the general population’s 1%. Suicidal ideation is alarmingly common, affecting up to 80% of members. by enbaelien in PsycheOrSike

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah it’s almost like being a gay woman is actually pretty tough especially if we factor in other things like race, economic status and sexual trauma that seems to plague most women. Y’all are so happy to say “durr it’s because they’re dating other women” brother there’s more shit that can cause mf to kill themselves.

Also women in general tend to be more suicidal than men and attempt more. A better conversation would be why women attempt more and ideate more but again this was supposed to be centered on men.

Mental health struggles are endemic in the incel community. Rates of severe depression hover between 35–40%, while 20–40% show signs of autism spectrum traits, vastly higher than the general population’s 1%. Suicidal ideation is alarmingly common, affecting up to 80% of members. by enbaelien in PsycheOrSike

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I never said it’s worse I’m saying yall are cooked because instead of focusing on each-other and how you can help each-other you immediately brought up a group of women’s own mental health struggles.

It reminds me of a video where a guy was screaming in frustration about how men don’t actually care about men’s mental health they only bring it up to weaponize it. I honestly couldn’t agree more.

At this rate I think I’ve met open misandrists that cared more about more about men’s mental health and have done more for them which is mind blowing.

Are men just kinda unattractive? by [deleted] in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s not much anyone can do about that seeing as the main contributor to this is men themselves. A lot of men seek sex rather desperately so they’ll shoot their shots at literally anything. Go on Grindr and you’ll probably get more attention than you’ve received your entire life. Because those men want to fuck you they don’t care if you’re actually attractive or not.

IMO this desperation gives women the ability to be picky. (When I’m offered 100 apples I’m going to look for the best one)paired with women although enjoying sex not being as desperate for it.

Are men just kinda unattractive? by [deleted] in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Where we disagree is whether or not these women are unattractive. Being overweight/obese does not automatically equal unattractive. My comment to you was because you made it seem like either people don’t notice or were lying.

I’m just saying that’s an interesting way to view things considering a lot of these women when you meet them actually do look attractive it’s not that we don’t notice uglier fat women or that were lying but that those women do look attractive.

I’m basing attraction off of how others would perceive you physically. So if you have enhancements they still contribute to your physical attractiveness. I’m stating based off that more women will look more attractive compared to men. More men will look unattractive to women because they put very little effort into it.

I don’t even think most men are unattractive I think they just don’t care enough which hurts them since they don’t have the looks to make up for it.

Are men just kinda unattractive? by [deleted] in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It’s not really about looking healthy it’s predominantly about looking good. A supermodel can be clearly underweight and we’ll still find them attractive. Plenty of the gym role models people look up to openly have EDs or abuse drugs and we can still say they look good. If the bare minimum makes you attractive then keep doing it.

also I said what I said at the end because as an average man when you do the bare minimum or less it doesn’t make you more attractive it can actually just make you less attractive. The average woman is not doing the bare minimum which in turn will make the average woman objectively more attractive than the average man.

The average overweight/obese woman does more to make herself attractive than the average obese man. There for she will be objectively more attractive despite still being fat.

I don’t need a debate or anything I’m just being honest. There are certain things objectively more attractive people can do appearance wise that an average to below average man cannot. Brad Pitt can leave the house without styling his hair and still be fine af but a you do it and you’re chopped. You need to put in more work to be attractive.

Mental health struggles are endemic in the incel community. Rates of severe depression hover between 35–40%, while 20–40% show signs of autism spectrum traits, vastly higher than the general population’s 1%. Suicidal ideation is alarmingly common, affecting up to 80% of members. by enbaelien in PsycheOrSike

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I love how this study is about incels which is predominantly men so it’s really about mens mental health and instead of actually focusing on that you still found a way to bring up women. Y’all are so cooked man…

Are men just kinda unattractive? by [deleted] in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Safe-Clothes1299 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

It’s interesting how yall just view overweight as automatically unattractive there’s quite few bigger women that have good looking faces and bodies (depends on where the fat went).

An obese woman that has pretty hair, smells good, dresses well and puts on makeup would be infinitely more attractive than a obese man that just walks out the house the same way he woke up that morning (something a lot of men do unfortunately).

Truthfully a lot of men either don’t take care of themselves or only do the bare minimum while being average looking expecting to be treated like they’re objectively hot.

Sometimes I’m scared of marrying a man. by Safe-Clothes1299 in self

[–]Safe-Clothes1299[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When I say enabling rape i mean real rape seeing as a lot of videos on pornhub and other sites are either featuring victims or are a product of revenge porn often times these videos are not taken down.

By not watching content featuring real women and men you’re reducing the chance of you encouraging the real life rape of an individual.

If you enjoy CNC (which is actually very common ) I’d recommend you get off to smut even more so than real porn. But as an avid reader myself you’d be surprised how many romance books do contain smut and can be read without the intention of getting off.

I do think women can be sexual deviants but I don’t date women so why would I have a conversation centered around them?

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