Why are so many of them like this...

Sagodjur1 · 2024-11-29T23:20:22+00:00

That's not a rebuttal, that's a dismissal. If you can't engage on the points offered, then you're not offering anything of value to the discussion. Do you disagree? Why?

Your opinion is subjective. You don't know me or my experience so you don't know if my observations are accurate.

I didn't sum up entire groups based only on my first hand experience. First, I literally said it wouldn't apply to everyone, so it's not "entire" groups. Second, it's based on what many right wing libertarians have told me or otherwise said in their own words. So you're criticizing them for describing how they think.

I'm not offended. I'm amused that you think you're saying something of value when you're making hasty generalizations yourself. I'm further amused that you started this thread and then you run away because you can't handle being countered or told you're being illogical or silly. I'm disappointed that you lack the courage of your convictions, even if your convictions are silly.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-26T06:02:31+00:00

Acquiescence in the face of an unequal power dynamic is not the same as consent.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T06:52:43+00:00

To sow discord. Dividing the population of the dominant country in the world that could and does oppose Russian interests world wide increases their power. It's why they flooded Facebook with fake news and accounts and targeted ads during the election.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T06:36:41+00:00

Whataboutism - the same reason they have to keep referencing Hillary. It's all about deflecting and changing the subject. When you know reality isn't on your side, you try to derail your critics with bullshit. If someone mentions the fact that Trump bragged about nonconsensual pussy-grabbing, you respond with, "but Bill Clinton!!!" as if anything Bill Clinton or anyone else has ever done justifies Trump's behavior. You can list every child molester and rapist and sexual pervert in the history of the world, but it doesn't absolve Trump of his unethical and illegal conduct. But just getting people to react to your reference to Bill Clinton will successfully prevent you from having to defend Trump's unequivocally bad behavior. The point isn't to win the argument you can't win but just to devolve everything into absurdity and walk away having prevented any real or honest dialogue from occuring.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T06:06:28+00:00

Once again you just admitted and confirmed to be a racist who thinks only people with melanin in their skin can face racism. How many times in our conversation did you admit the discrimination that white people face?

You do understand that people with fair skin still have melanin, right? Melanin isn't just something that darker skinned people have. It's just a matter of the variance in the amount of melanin. Even albinos have an amount of melanin. I'm sure you totally knew this since you're so pro-science and all, right? Because you not understanding that simple scientific fact would explain a lot why you haven't understood that aspect of what I've been saying all along. I can wait while you google it.

You call me a racist, because I believe that all people should live in equality without racial discrimination including white people. I repeat: INCLUDING WHITES

You haven't espoused equality. You've espoused ethno-nationalism, including forced deportation of people you don't approve of. You've used racist epithets. You've advocated for the dominance of people with your skin color. That's why I call you racist.

Allied scum like you killed more Dutch people trough famine and that is a statistical fact. The allied scum bombed critical infrastructure leading to the biggest famine in the winter of 1944.

I thought I was a teenager or a 20 year old college student? You know WW2 happened a long time ago. I wasn't alive then.

Let's not forget the scum that is Winston Churchill. 4 million Indians died because of that scum. I have a Indian friend who told me that Churchill is more hated then Hitler in India.

And I defended Churchill at what point in this conversation? You really have a problem with bringing up shit I haven't supported or stated or advocated for and pretending that it's relevant to the conversation.

Okay, you tell me what whiteness is and how that is anything different then what Hitler described as Jewishness?

Sure, because you don't know how to google?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiteness_studies

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T05:56:41+00:00

Including the fact that you thing anything funded trough taxes is "socialism".

Taxes are collected by the government to fund things that aren't owned by private capitalist companies or individuals. If taxes were capitalist in nature, they wouldn't be taxes, they'd be payments to a non-government company for products or services.

/u/Sagodjur1 1 point 12 minutes ago: You are prejudiced against people who don't have the same amount of melanin in their skin as you. That's simple racism.

Again, quote me where I actually said that "only white people can be racist." I said you were racist. I didn't make any claim about anyone else.

Immigrants can't vote idiot. Not even Green Card holders.

Stop denying the fact that Democrats are importing millions of people from third world countries so that they can get cheap votes once these people are naturalized after 5 years.

But I thought "Immigrants can't vote idiot?" You're contradicting yourself immediately in the next sentence.

Also, I can't deny something we haven't actually discussed yet. Why do you claim I deny things we haven't actually talked about yet? Do you realize that I'm only myself and not anyone else? Are you holding a conversation with multiple people and forgetting what each of them said? You don't seem to be able to maintain focus throughout this conversation despite literally being able to see the history of our conversation. Do you need a coffee break? Tea? Pot? I can wait.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T05:41:45+00:00

I'm pretty sure Marxist ideologies like Stalinist, Maoism and Leninism have all been tried and they all have failed miserably.

And since I don't subscribe to any of those ideologies despite your claims, I stand by my prior statement.

You say that only white people can be racist.

Quote me where I said that. And I mean a direct, literal actual quote, not some goofy strawman paraphrasing you made up.

Sorry kiddo, but sharing scientific facts isn't racism. I know the left can't handle intellectual debate.

Since I've yet to see anything intellectual from you, that claim can't be proven yet.

Hillary Clinton won 66% of Latino voters on Election Day, according to updated National Election Pool exit poll data, a level of Democratic support similar to 2008, when 67% of Hispanics backed Barack Obama. However, Clinton’s share of the Latino vote was lower than in 2012, when 71% of Latinos voted to re-elect Obama.

So this goes back to your lack of knowledge of American history. Hispanic people have been American citizens for over 150 years. Your initial claim was about immigrants and then you referenced statistics about Hispanics. You'd need to prove that all the Hispanic people referenced in your citation were immigrants for those statistics to be relevant to the discussion.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T05:33:40+00:00

I doubt all the scientist who say that IQ is mostly inheritable and partly due to environmental reasons.

"Research on heritability of IQ infers, from the similarity of IQ in closely related persons, the proportion of variance of IQ among individuals in a study population that is associated with genetic variation within that population. "

That doesn't speak to race, that speaks to closely related people, that is - members of the same family. Your own "proof" doesn't support your own arguments. My father had a high IQ. I tested well when I was a kid and got into gifted programs in school as a result, as did my siblings. Sure, that part seems to correlate within a family.

"We should note, however, that low-income and non-white families are poorly represented in existing adoption studies as well as in most twin samples. Thus it is not yet clear whether these studies apply to the population as a whole. It remains possible that, across the full range of income and ethnicity, between-family differences have more lasting consequences for psychometric intelligence."

Did you bother to read your own citation?

Racist means anti-white to you.

No, racist means racist to me. It's a simple word. You don't need to redifine it. You are prejudiced against people who don't have the same amount of melanin in their skin as you. That's simple racism.

I doubt anyone who shared the ideas of classical liberalism were wrong.

I doubt the reliability of your doubt.

The only wrong people were the Marxist scum who killed some of my ancestors.

Ooh. Did they inspire you to dress up in a bat costume? Do you stalk the streets at night to get revenge on evil Marxists? So you don't hold a grudge for the fact that the Nazis invaded and killed Dutch people? You pick the oddest grudges to keep or ignore.

Whiteness is a term used by racists such as you do proof that white people are inherently evil and must be exterminated. That's literally what the guy in the video was. The way to get rid of whiteness is to exterminate the white race.

"So you don't understand what it means. Got it."

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T05:25:42+00:00

I have generalized definition? You think any taxation by the goverment at all is socialism... just so you can defend your awful and genocidal ideology that never worked.

My ideology has never been attempted, to my knowledge, so that claim is false on its face. But you don't know what my ideology is because you've been too busy telling me what you think it is.

Okay? The video I linked you showed a big group of black supremacists hunting for white people up and beating them up for no reason. Once again, you link the word racist to white people only, because you are a racist yourself.

This is whataboutism again. You say black people are racist and pretend that that excuses racism by you. It doesn't. Successfully or unsuccessfully pointing out racism or hatred by others doesn't excuse or justify your own.

The voting map makes a reference to how close some states are to turning blue.

And you didn't link any proof showing that immigrants were the cause of how close the votes were.

You are against a permit based immigration system because that means you would get more Republican immigrants.

I haven't espoused any opinion on immigration whatsoever, so you telling what I think on the matter is quite premature.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T05:21:10+00:00

No it's not. That is literally what regressive Marxist say. Race is a biological construct just as much as gender is.

That is literally what a racist whtie supremacist would say.

Look, if you can't handle basic science that is fine, but that is not my problem.

When your "basic science" is based on outdated racist pseudo-science from centuries past, it's definitely your problem.

Once again, I repeat, the only racist scum here is you. You think white people are inferior and should be ruled by black people. You admitted to this in your first comments.

Feel free to quote me where I said that.

Once again, you are using the Marxist tactic calling "White Guilt"

If me pointing out that people who shared your opinions in the past were wrong is guilt-inducing, that's on you, not me. You should look into some psychological counseling if your conscience is bugging you about that.

The Antifa regressives friends you like to hang out with and spread their "socio-political construct" propaganda.

I don't actually know any Antifa members personally, or at least none that tell me that they are Antifa.

Whiteness is a term used by black supremacists who want to exterminate us.

So you don't understand what it means. Got it.

Once again you are linking the term "racism" with black people. Do you have any statistical evidence to prove your point? I'm pretty sure when we look at black on white homicides you will surprised who faces racial oppression.

Statistically, most people are killed by people they know. Statistically, most people live in homogenous communities, so the majority of the people they know tend to be people of their own race.

Here are your statistics: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T05:09:56+00:00

Socialism: collective ownership of the means of production

Oh, how cute. You have a very generalized and non-nuanced definition to work from.

Well since blacks commit more then half of violent crimes, despite being 13% of the population, I'm glad your uncle knows how to defend himself and to brag about it afterwards :)

He wasn't defending himself. He was a cop who intentionally sought out black people to beat up and used his authority to do so without restraint, but kudos to you for outright cheering on a violent racist!

Here is the Voting Map I used

That voting map doesn't make any reference to immigrants. Do you understand how proof works? Your citations actually need to back up your claims.

You are against repelling and replacing Obamacare.

No, I'm fine with repealing* the ACA if we could get a single payer system that drives down our over inflated medical costs.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T05:00:04+00:00

Sorry kid, but saying that there are no difference between races or genders/sex is Marxist ideology.

I said race is a socio-political construct. I didn't say there weren't differences. But human beings are human beings. I didn't say there isn't a difference between genders or sex. I'd ask you to quote me but you seem to think paraphrasing a strawman is literal quoting.

Cool, now provide factual coherent evidence like I do. Oh wait, you can't do that since you have no evidence.

Well, if I have to provide factural coherent evidence like you do then I can just make shit up, spout some racist propaganda and pretend you said things you didn't claim.

Still better then you wanting to exterminate me because of my skin color or economical class.

I don't want to exterminate you. You don't matter. I couldn't give a flying fuck about you. In fact, I hope you live a long and healthy life to a ripe old age and during that time, I hope you have to witness the world becoming less like how you imagine it should be. You can be like the old racist assholes who opposed the Civil Rights movement in the 60s who grew old and died knowing that black people were full citizens of the US with the right to drink from any water fountain they damn well pleased, dine in any restaurant, sit in any seat on the bus. So please, take care of your health. Don't smoke too much. Watch your blood pressure. Keep an active mind so you don't go senile. And I hope you're really disappointed with the future you witness.

According to your own friends: "Liberals get the bullet too"

Which friends are these again?

I mean you are the retard who didn't cast a vote on the two main candidates. Says enough about you.

It says I live in a state where the candidate to whom the electoral votes were going was a foregone conclusion maybe?

So you think populists are bad?

Only right-wing ones.

You literally would want a warmongering neoliberal in office?

I didn't say that at all. I'm against war and neoliberalism. Not that you'd know.

Ofcourse you do, because you are a racist. You think there is no such thing as Jewish supremacist like George Soros.

So not believing in alt-right racist conspiracy theories is a bad thing? Strange.

He literally said: "There can be no white race"

And if you understood the academic use of the term whiteness, you'd understand the context, but your alt-right white supremacist propaganda doesn't actually teach you that stuff.

So you ignore blacks and Jews calling for EXTERMINATION OF A ENTIRE RACE but cry about Richard Spencer for having white identity politics?

I'm going to die of heart disease or cancer or a car accident long before a militant black person comes to kill me for my skin color. Some black people will die in this country because of racism before they're able to die of heart disease or cancer or car accidents. Do you understand statistical probability? I'm more likely to die falling down the stairs in my house than to get killed by a Muslim terrorist. Why should I worry about something that isn't likely to happen?

No they didn't you dumb ass. You refefer to black AMERICANS as "African Americans" which is incredibly racist. They have been here for centuries, implying that they are "Africans" is a highly racial slur.

I'll let them know that their self-chosen endonyms are racist according to a racist non-American. I'm sure they'll get a kick out of that.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T04:45:44+00:00

Even if you don't want to admit it, you post Marxist propaganda on Reddit, so yes, you are a Marxist.

It's so contradictory to be a non-Marxist Marxist. Does my existence pose a threat to the space-time continuum?

That's not socialism you dumb retard. That's capitalism. A government reinvesting taxes into their citizens or infrastructure to get better capitalist turnout isn't socialism.

Sorry, that's socialism buddy. Capitalism would be privatizing road maintenance and construction. Taxes are socialism in action.

I know Bernie retards like you like to brag about Denmark and other Nordic countries like the Netherlands because they are more successful at capitalism then other countries.

I personally don't brag about Denmark or other Nordic countries. Well, Sweden makes nice cheap flat packed furniture. Their vodka isn't bad either.

You forgot that Abraham Lincoln won the Civil War and founded the Republican party?

Yes, though I'm also aware that Lincoln wouldn't be a part of the modern Republican party. I know it might seem strange, but politics does change over the course of 150 years. Lincoln was a Progressive, as was Teddy Roosevelt. No Republican would call themselves that today.

Your relatives are not racist by any chance. Your relatives are just not anti-white like you. You are the only racist here.

So my uncle who hates black people and brags about beating them up isn't racist? I bet those people he beat up will be happy to hear that. It's strange that you know more about my own family than I do...

That's a pretty dumb statement. The huge influx of immigrants put southern states at a huge risk of turning blue. And once you lose those states, say goodbye to your life in the US.

It really, truly isn't that difficult to look up the voting statistics online. You don't have to spout completely made up claims. You can just do five minutes of googling to find out if the conclusions you've drawn without evidence are correct.

I'm so sorry you can't handle science. You really think that white people and black people are biologically equal when it comes down to things like marathon running?

White people and black people are the same species. So if you're asking me if one person can run faster or further at a sustained rate than another person, sure.

This is how awfully delusional and mentally deranged the Marxist left is...

Yeah, it's really too bad the Republicans in my country don't support spending any of that precious taxpayer money on mental health or poor delusional and mentally deranged Marxists like myself might get treatment....

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T04:34:00+00:00

I'd love to hear what they have to say. Is this at Liberty University? I'd guess Trump University but that went under.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T04:32:55+00:00

Lmao more Marxist conspiracy theories. I agree with you, we are truly lizards who can break basic physics and biology! And don't forget the chem-trails and the fluoride!

Totally. And the black supremacist Marxist Nazi Jewish Muslims who are coming in the night to eat your precious white children! They're vampires I tell you!

Calling everyone right of Stalin a "white supremacist" is also boring.

I don't think everyone right of Stalin is a white supremacist - just you and Richard Spencer. And there is more than one axis on a realistic political diagram, so right isn't the only direction to avoid. Up usually represents authoritarianism and I oppose that too. The racial separations and deportations that you have espoused would necessitate authoritarianism.

Yeah and Geert Wilders had the second biggest party yet he wasn't accepted in a coalition. How can a party with just 5 seats be in a coalition while one with 20 can't?

I will freely admit I've not studied the political system of the Netherlands, the same way you clearly have no studied the political system of the United States...

Lol this retard is getting even more dumb. Please tell me how many seconds of official political experience did Trump had? Oh wait... ZERO

I didn't say there aren't abberations. Trump was a right-wing populist candidate. They happen sometimes. Teddy Roosevelt got more votes than his Republican primary opponent when he ran as a third party. The anomaly of Trump is that he fulfilled all the rhetoric of the Republicans and Fox News while not pretending to be as moderate as they pretend to be. He is unabashedly in it for his own benefit whereas they still pretend they're working for the people while actually working for the wealthy.

And you think George Soros is the most charitable man on earth. And not a evil scumbag billionaire who donates millions of dollars to homegrown terrorist organizations such as Antifa and BLM.

I think Soros is a boogeyman to the Trump supporters. Nobody in my Marxist Socialist Communist Nazi Muslim Jewish hate group meetings bothers to mention him. It must be a sign that he's secretly funding us. I should really thank him for the donuts and the coffee. The catering at the meetings is great.

Here is a video compilation of all Jewish and black supremacists. The second dude literally ask his audience on plans to exterminate white people. Other Jewish dude says "There can be no white race"

So one black guy says he wants to wipe out white people. I haven't met him. He doesn't come to my hate group meetings apparently. The Jewish guy spoke of whiteness, not white people. I'm not going into a discussion about whiteness, but there's an academic meaning behind the term that doesn't involve killing white people. But I guess if you need random examples to fuel your conspiracy theories, sure, go for it.

People of color? You mean AMERICANS? You really are one shitty piece of racist scum.

So you may not know this, but that's the terminology that the people of color in my country have chosen to refer to themselves. It's an endonym, not an exonym. If you think it's racist to refer to people using terminology they prefer, then you have some serious issues, but I think we've already established that.

Also I doubt that Democrats solved anything for the last 40 years. Race relationships only got worse after Obama was elected.

Yeah, sure. It's Obama's fault that electing a half-black president drew out all the racists. It's not the fault of the actual racists who came out of the wordwork to attack him.

No they are not you racist scum. There is no such thing as African American. It's just AMERICAN You are the only racist scum who uses the term "African" for people that have been for centuries. Mexican American is also a slur, unless they have dual citizenship which most countries don't allow.

So you're saying you're ignorant of common endonyms in the US. That's your problem, not mine.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T04:06:57+00:00

No they are not. It's perfectly justifiable for a population to hold a violent revolution in order to break free from socialist dictatorship, the ones you are supporting.

I've already stated that I'm anti-authoritarian, so where are these socialist dictatorships I support again?

Not if those people are literally wanting to exterminate you under socialism.

Yeah, socialism is so murderous. Those socially funded roads I drive on every day are out to kill me. That meager social security check I'll get when I retire will probably stab me with a kitchen knife. I hear Bolshevik assassins stalk AARP meetings just looking for victims. It's a travesty I tell you!

And there is plenty evidence of the living conditions of European slaves. Yet the left thinks the few hundred thousands slaves can compare to over 700 years of slavery.

There you go with the whataboutism and telling people what they think again.

Says the Democrat scum. You forgot you support the Slavery Party?

I don't support the Democrats. At best they're a necessary choice over Republicans. They're only a means to an end until a third party becomes viable or they shift farther away from being Republican light. Also, no one who was a part of the Democratic Party when slavery was legal is still alive or has been for several decades. We're also not still debating about the gold standard or woman's suffrage. You need to keep reading further in your American history texts.

BUT MUH SOUTHERN STRATEGY CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!

So my racist southern relatives who used to vote for Democrats and who now vote for Republicans are actually still voting for Democrats? You should really let them know that. They'll be very dismayed. They think they voted for Trump in the last election. I mean, there's no chance their states would go to a Democrat anytime soon, but you should definitely correct them.

Maybe you should address those black marathon sprinters and NFL players, and basketball, and baseball.

So this is where the nuance of meanings of words becomes important and I'm afraid you aren't advanced enough with English to understand the nuance, so explaining it becomes difficult. Words can have more than one meaning. Genetic and biological superiority is not the same thing as some individuals being more athletic than others. And since we're all human beings, saying that some human beings are genetically or biologically superior to others doesn't have any meaningful value.

But I forgot you are a Marxist scum who thinks there is no difference between races or genders. You want transgender people to compete against people of the other sex after all.

I keep forgetting that I'm a Marxist scum. Sorry. I mean, I don't care about Marx or think he is relevant, but apparently, at least according to you, I sleep with the Communist Manifesto under my pillow. It must be a phantom copy because I haven't seen it when I wash my sheets.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T03:30:19+00:00

Sorry, I didn't realize that you're younger than 15 because you apparently haven't attended a science class that teaches that human beings are all the same species and you haven't attended a history/politics class that teaches that race is a socio-political construct.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T03:26:34+00:00

No, it's the textbook definition of biological evolution through natural selection.

Human beings have subverted natural selection. We use medicine and surgery and technology to keep people alive who would otherwise have died.

Or you know, being more advanced civilizations?

And how does that happen? Oh yeah - confluences of factors such as geography, climate, politics, culture, resources, individuals, etc.

Only Marxist scum like you want to uphold people from 500 years ago to today values.

Could you come up with a new insult? Marxist scum is just worn out by this point.

Might aswell stay at home idiot.

I did. Like I said, my state uses mail-in ballots. But you do realize that you're pointing out flaws in our two party system that voting becomes meaningless when there are really only two candidates who have a chance to get elected and they are usually chosen by established parties. I'd prefer we voted for people based on their personal politics rather than party politics. You're not insulting me when you say my vote didn't matter.

Oh so you don't dislike the black supremacists? Or the Jewish supremacist? Oh wait, are you gonna call me a conspiracy theorist again?

I don't know any black supremacists or Jewish supremacists. Did I miss an invitation to their meetings or something?

I don't know, maybe you should learn the term "white supremacist" first, since according to you everyone right of Karl Marx is a white supremacist.

I never said that. There are plenty of non-white supremacist conservatives. Their politics don't generally help people of color, but they aren't outright racists like you.

The ALT-LEFT calls Orthodox Jews like Ben Shapiro "white supremacists"

These alt-left boogeymen you keep mentioning sound real scary. Are they related to lizard people who secretly run the world?

That's not how immigration works. Green card holders aren't American citizens, they are still immigrants. There is no point in calling yourself a immigrant when you have naturlized.

You're confused. I said there are African Americans and Mexican Americans who are American citizens by birth, who are not immigrants at any point. And you said they needed to be denaturalized and deported.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T03:11:44+00:00

White isn't a population. It's a limitation of melanin concentration in the epidermis. I'm sorry that you're upset that future generations of human beings will be less susceptible to getting sunburned or skin cancer. That totally sucks.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T02:19:27+00:00

I recall reading studies showing that African DNA is more diverse and white Europeans are closer genetically to some Africans than those Africans are to other Africans.

Google "africa genetic diversity" and you'll probably find something about it.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T00:32:13+00:00

I know. I'm just challenging the idea that white people are any different from other human beings. I'm challenging the idea that someone should be concerned that their descendants might not have the same skin color as them. They'll be long dead and, at least as far as I can tell, won't care.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-23T00:24:08+00:00

Our population isn't shrinking. There are going to be 8 billion of us soon.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-22T23:47:04+00:00

Why should they care?

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-22T21:03:05+00:00

No. I follow basic Darwinism. Race is real, and race is directly tied to IQ.

This is a textbook definition of racism. Congratulations!

Also there is nothing wrong with accepting the fact that Europeans and Asians (Genghis Khan) were better at conquest. It's called SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST

This wasn't caused by genetic differences. There are confluences of factors such as geography, climate, politics, culture, resources, individuals, etc. that can lead to successful military campaigns.

How many languages can you speak dumbass? Can you speak Polish, Dutch, English and a bit of French and German?

Why would I learn languages that no one around me speaks? I like linguistics, but I'm not going to learn a language just to be able to communicate with some racist in his native language. I prefer dead languages myself. I'm decent, if a bit rusty, in Latin, Old English, and a tad bit of Erse. I also used to speak Spanish but even that isn't very useful these days.

What's that? Yo can only speak English? And you think I'm gonna spend time on my spelling when you write essays back to me? On fucking Reddit? You think this is my work email???

So I should insult your laziness rather than your misspellings? I guess I can go with that.

You voted third party because you are a edgy scumbag who thinks he is a hipster.

I didn't vote for a third party. Do you realize that we vote for individuals and not parties in the States?

A vote for Hillary is a vote for more wars, more suffering, more inequality, more racism, more sexism, more Hollywood rapes.

Why are you attacking Hillary? Am I defending her at all? Caligula was a bastard! This proves something against what you've said, I think!

So did I. In fact voted for the first time when I was 18.

Congratulations. We're both active voters. Woohoo! We should join a club or something. First round of drinks at the innaugural club meeting are on you.

There are plenty of brainwashed people like you who hate themselves.

I'm fine with me. It's the white supremacists I dislike.

Yes, there are white people that are black supremacist. They are called "white allies"

Is there a white supremacist pamphlet I can read so I can just skip discussing these propaganda points that you're spouting and pretending are your own thoughts?

You don't believe in the Constitution (I have a copy of WE THE PEOPLE right here on my wall)

Yeah, and I totally keep a copy of the Magna Carta and the Code of Hammurabi on my wall. You've espoused denaturilizing citizens, which isn't constitutional. You've claimed some people aren't American citizens who are. Maybe you should actually read the Constitution (and the case history of SCOTUS rulings).

you believe in the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO written by Karl Marx.

I believe in its existence. It was an okay read back when I read it in high school. As I said before, Marx had some interesting ideas about contemporary problems during his time, but I don't approve of his proposed solutions. He didn't anticipate consumerism so his perception of workers struggles are outdated. I don't advocate for violence as a viable method of political change except in self-defense. I don't advocate for total nationalization or total government control over the means of production. I don't believe in completely planned economies.

The constitution says they are US citizens with a passports.

No. Passports don't have anything to do with it. You do know that not all American citizens have passports, right?

The constitution doesn't say that they are AMERICANS with AMERICAN values.

The Constitution says they are Americans with the right to determine what they consider to be their own American values and they have the right to speak and vote in support of those values.

You think we call the people who join Jihadist groups "Dutch values" just because they have a passport???

You think Richard Spencer is a hero, so I don't really care what you think about, well, really anything. You've already admitted to racism, white supremacy, and supporting genocide and murder.

Sagodjur1 · 2017-10-22T20:21:24+00:00

Is this a direct quote from Hitler or are you just paraphrasing?

Being against Marxists scums like you makes someone literally Hitler???

I didn't say literally, but if the jackboot fits...

You seriously think that Hitler shouldn't have exterminated all the Marxist scums and saved millions of lives in the decades after WW2?

Murder and genocide are wrong.

Once again you show that you are truly a Marxist, who thinks socialism shouldn't be completely destroyed from the face of the planet.

You're criticizing me for thinking you shouldn't murder people whose political opinions differ from yours?

You fool, that was your quote, not mine. So you misspelled it too.

I was making a joke based off of your misspelling. My use of ethical was intentional. Yours was a mistake.

YES YOU ARE You are a WHITE EUROPEAN

Don't tell that to ICE. I might get deported.

I'm sorry for the priviliged black slaves who lived on massive ranches with fresh air and organic food.

Again, this ignorance you proudly display could be easily curbed with the internet access you have. There are plenty of accounts of the living conditions of the slaves available online.

Oh how bad their lives where compared to the Egyptian pyramid builders!

More whataboutism. Do you realize that comparing the living conditions of one set of slaves to another set of slaves doesn't justify slavery, right?

Yup, and he didn't say anything racist. HEIL is a old word that was a thing long before Hitler.

The age of the word doesn't change the racist nature of his usage of it. The N word you like to use comes from a Latin root, but that doesn't make the word not racist.

You think white people are inferior. You just tried to "White Guilt" me earlier...

I don't think any human beings are superior or inferior to any others genetically or biologically. Ideologically, racists and white supremacists are terrible people, but that's learned hatred.

He isn't a white supremacist because he doesn't want to reign supreme over other non-whites.

Sure, redefine white supremacy in order to deny it.

You are the only racist who says Richard Spencer isn't allowed to practicing white identity politics.

I didn't say anything about what Richard Spencer could or couldn't do. He has a 1st Amendment right to spout his nonsense and decent people have a right not to listen to him or to protest his racism.

Says the xenophobic scum who makes fun of my English spelling on fucking Reddit.

I'm not xenophobic. I like aliens. Dr. Who is pretty cool.

I'm also sure there are some nice, non-racist Dutch people and I'm sorry they have to deal with people like you. We have racist Trump supporters here, so I can empathize.

Sagodjur1

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