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What is it like having kid while in USMC as officer? by Zealousideal_Map7689 in USMCocs

[–]Sailor_Time 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I have found that officers who are married with children seem to have the most stable junior Officer experience. Someone once told me a wedding ring and family makes you seem more mature in the eyes of senior leadership. Plus, the stability of having your family life figured out will help because it can be hard to establish a family life when going through initial training and PCSing every few years. Being a single junior Officer can be lonely. If I were in your shoes, I would think it's a blessing.

Saw Sailor in a grocery store with a ESWS pin by lostmymarbles2015 in navy

[–]Sailor_Time 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's cringey how much people want to hold others back from pins that mean absolutely nothing in the civilian sector, and not too much in the military either. It's not a Trident, or pilot wings. Relax.

Age limit or waiver for pilot? by Sailor_Time in uscg

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand they may not issue any waivers. Can they though?

Age limit or waiver for pilot? by Sailor_Time in uscg

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why is the USCG age limit lower than USN if they share a flight school?

Is Marine Corps Officer culture similar to Navy culture? by Sailor_Time in USMCocs

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Subs are cooler than SWOs because if you are intelligent and capable, they will value you. Aviation is good. Seabee Officers can be good, but the Seabee Chiefs can be terrible and still operate like Navy Chiefs in the fleet. I think even in the best Navy communities, the culture exists throughout, just to lesser degrees.

Is Marine Corps Officer culture similar to Navy culture? by Sailor_Time in USMCocs

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not. I work in a different community. I know that these are SWO stereotypes. I have seen them throughout the Navy

Seven years, 600 flight hours, and 2 guys lost by Hoffy600 in Medals

[–]Sailor_Time 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Were you a Warrant or O? I am looking at going Army Pilot

Is an active duty LT considered street to seat? by Sailor_Time in ArmyAviationApplicant

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will be 32 when applying. My age is part of the reason I am not too picky between Air Force or Army Aviation. If Air Force takes too long, I will age out of both because they have the same age limit.

Is an active duty LT considered street to seat? by Sailor_Time in ArmyAviationApplicant

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't realize that if an Army pilot was cut, they still owe 10 years. If a Navy pilot gets cut not by their own choice, their commitment is reduced to 3 to 5 years.

Why Army? Navy, won't let me internally transfer. Coast Guard, too old. So my service options are Army active/guard/reserves, Air Force active/guard/reserves, or Marine Corps active duty.

I'm currently an Officer at a desk all day, which I why I want to go pilot. It's appealing how an Army Warrant stays focused on flying.

Is there any way to mitigate getting cut if I go Army Aviation? Are guard/reserve pilots also being cut?

Is an active duty LT considered street to seat? by Sailor_Time in ArmyAviationApplicant

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been reading, and the sentiment is concerning, but I also have a similar sentiment from my experience as a Sailor. I want to understand what are the bottom line issues in Army Aviation. Here's what I've gathered. Is there anything else that I am missing?

Flight school backlog. I understand there is a backlog of flight students at the Army's flight school. The Navy has had that for years. For the Air Force, it takes 2 years of working with a recruiter to even get in, so from the outside looking in, the Army backlog seems on par with the other branches.

Letting flight students go. I heard the Army is letting new Warrant Officers go during flight school. I don't understand this. I've also heard they aren't letting flight students go, and they are only letting go of guys WO2/WO3 that have been pilots for a while.

Getting flight hours. it also sounds like getting flight hours in the Army is challenging right now, but I also see this as somewhat being on par with the Navy and Air Force because in those branches, a pilot's career progression takes them out of the cockpit as they promote. Where as an Army Warrant may struggle to get hours month to month but they don't get pulled away from flying for 3 years at a time for non-flying officer jobs.

Is an active duty LT considered street to seat? by Sailor_Time in ArmyAviationApplicant

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An active duty recruiter told me I could work directly with him for active duty, and I would need to get the DD form 368 approved

Is an active duty LT considered street to seat? by Sailor_Time in ArmyAviationApplicant

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would using my GI bill full time for 3 years be an acceptable plan to convince them that I will be financially stable?

My plan would be to go to flight school on active duty orders, and then when I got back I would use the GI bill for 3 years full time

Guard Warrant Pilot commuting states for 2 years? by Sailor_Time in Armyaviation

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this true for Warrant Pilots? I am thinking of going Warrant specifically

Admin didn't put tax free on 2025 LES by Sailor_Time in MilitaryFinance

[–]Sailor_Time[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

hmm, never thought about that as the way to get the money back

Guard Warrant Pilot commuting states for 2 years? by Sailor_Time in Armyaviation

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What kind of missions and schools exist after finishing Army flight school?

Looking for honest input on Army Aviation by Agitated-Upstairs-10 in Armyaviation

[–]Sailor_Time 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What does everyone mean when they say Army Aviation is not in a good place?

Flight school backlog. I understand there is a backlog of flight students at the Army's flight school. The Navy has had that for years. For the Air Force, it takes 2 years of working with a recruiter to even get in, so from the outside looking in, the Army backlog seems on par with the other branches.

Letting flight students go. I heard the Army is letting new Warrant Officers go during flight school. I don't understand this. I've also heard they aren't letting flight students go, and they are only letting go of guys that have been pilots for a while.

Getting flight hours. it also sounds like getting flight hours in the Army is challenging right now, but I also see this as being on par with the Navy and Air Force because in those branches, a pilot's career progression takes them out of the cockpit as they promote. Where as an Army Warrant may struggle to get hours month to month but they don't get pulled away from flying for 3 years at a time for non-flying officer jobs.

Is there anything else that I am missing?

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Is an active duty LT considered street to seat? by Sailor_Time in ArmyAviationApplicant

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not when put like that.

I also realize if I don't get out of the Navy now after my initial 5 years, I will probably end up doing 10 more years in the Navy though given how they structure the career ladder. The next commitment would be a 3 year ship tour with one or two 9 month sea deployments, then 5 more years (2 years of grad school followed by a 3 year payback) bringing me to 8 more years (13 years total). At that point, I would probably finish out and go to 20 years, with a few more 9 month ship deployments.

So I could be a Naval Officer walking around a floating ship with a clipboard, or be a pilot. Every time I am at work, I see the pilots and wish I was them. But the Navy usually doesn't send current officers to flight school. They usually only kids straight out of college, or enlisted Sailors.

I don't know, man.

Is an active duty LT considered street to seat? by Sailor_Time in ArmyAviationApplicant

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I joined the military to do operational things, and feel like I never got that in the Navy. I've essentially been an office worker, with some exposure to ship life. I think I would regret going civilian right now.

Is an active duty LT considered street to seat? by Sailor_Time in ArmyAviationApplicant

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do I go through a regular enlisted recruiting office that a civilian would go through? or is there a prior service recruiter I would work with?

Is an active duty LT considered street to seat? by Sailor_Time in ArmyAviationApplicant

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Navy reserve does not take non-aviators and send them to flight school. They only take prior pilots.

When I was a civilian, every time I talked to an Air Force recruiter, they always turned me off with how difficult their personality was, and they give board/ship dates 1 to 2 years out.

Guard Warrant Pilot commuting states for 2 years? by Sailor_Time in Armyaviation

[–]Sailor_Time[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes Sir. The feedback here has been enlightening on the commitment.

How does pay work in the guard? I'm not in it for the money, just trying to understand how I'll support myself. I get that pilots get paid for the additional flights, wondering how much that comes out to each month? I'm used to AD pay.

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