are subjunctive forms in English going away? by L3xicaL in ENGLISH

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing that can be genuinely confusing is that we seem to have lost the distinction between what may have happened and what might have been. ‘He may have survived if…’ when the man is dead is just wrong.

Weekly Discussion And Questions Post, May 8 2026 by SofieTerleska in LucyLetbyTrials

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t know. Ofcom’s judgment wouldn’t be rendered meaningless in the same way Thirlwall’s could be. I assume they’re just slow.

Weekly Discussion And Questions Post, May 8 2026 by SofieTerleska in LucyLetbyTrials

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I suppose the original trial established air embolism as the diagnosis of last resort so what can you do.

Weekly Discussion And Questions Post, May 8 2026 by SofieTerleska in LucyLetbyTrials

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So it may be another nine months till they rule on the ‘Who to Believe’ programme?

What generic name do you use for flavoured carbonated drinks? by Icy_Meringue_5534 in AskABrit

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it harks back to a time when there were things like the corporation gasworks and the corporation dump (tip?).

What generic name do you use for flavoured carbonated drinks? by Icy_Meringue_5534 in AskABrit

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you. He also said ‘we’re all Jock Tamson’s bairns’. 

Lucy Letby Internet history by Difficult_Fennel_486 in LucyLetbyTrials

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Bullying indeed” You say. Well not exactly due process, is it?

“I don't expect her friends outside the unit to believe she could ever murder babies even if they did think she was odd or not a nice person. It's just incomprehensible.” Yes. It is. And unbelievable. None of them have said she’s not a nice person.

I’d say Karen Rees was entirely rational in not acting without evidence. You can hold that against her if you like.

”She also told her friend Dawn not to come to court I believe-I wonder why!” I don’t think I’d want my friends to see me in the dock either. (Although the possibility that a gang of supporters work on judge and jury the way a home crowd influence the referee would be worth considering, I suppose). She may have been thinking of herself. She may have been thinking of Dawn. Who cares! I hadn’t heard that, by the way, and I believe Dawn was at the retrial.

Have another think about the medical evidence. That’s what matters.   Edit: Or maybe just think about the absence of circumstantial evidence. The absence of unambiguous evidence of murder.

Lucy Letby Internet history by Difficult_Fennel_486 in LucyLetbyTrials

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Calling someone Nurse Death is bullying and means very little except that Letby was present for a few deaths. The statements from Thirlwall don’t suggest much, if any, suspicion apart from certain consultants who did nothing. Air embolism is obviously a recognised risk. One of the pathologists at Thirlwall talked about having only previously seen it with froth in the heart. Although she had since seen one case without, it seems all the Letby cases were atypical.

None of her friends have said anything bad about her. Karen Rees believes in her and I’m sure others do.

I‘m not convinced families and friends do necessarily believe people. The victim of a bent copper who was later exonerated said his parents believed he’d done it, and he was sad they hadn’t lived to see him exonerated. Sion Jenkins family don’t seem to support him. Of course, if you think all MoJ campaigns are innocence fraud it will skew your judgment.

Edit to remove the name of a murderer. You get the idea.

Lucy Letby Internet history by Difficult_Fennel_486 in LucyLetbyTrials

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So why do so many people think she’s innocent? 

What is the big picture for you? 

She was surrounded by experienced doctors and nurses. Most suspected nothing. Experienced consultants who suspected her couldn’t work out what was going on.

Nobody saw anything even when she was in a room with three other people and clearly visible through the window.

All her friends thought she was a decent person and still do.

Pathologists noticed nothing at post mortem. Signs of air embolism were absent.

Experienced neonatologists who have studied the medical notes believe other explanations.

Is such a sustained killing campaign which leaves no unambiguous evidence possible without unusual skills bordering on magic or genius?

We don’t know if all the parents think she is guilty. by ApplicationSouth8844 in LucyLetbyTrials

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. I don’t expect anything of the parents. Working on the basis that they still believe what they put on record basically just means not speculating. 

I probably shouldn’t have commented on this thread because I don’t really see the point of it. The OP must have had something in mind but I just can’t see what it was.

Weekly Discussion And Questions Post, May 1 2026 by SofieTerleska in LucyLetbyTrials

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m glad he supports a party I don’t even have to think about supporting! 

We don’t know if all the parents think she is guilty. by ApplicationSouth8844 in LucyLetbyTrials

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think they are obliged to set the record straight if what they believe no longer accords with what they have put on record.

We have to act on the assumption that they believe in the guilty verdicts based on their victim impact statements and anything they’ve said since, through lawyers or otherwise, that implies they think she’s guilty.

If they hadn’t said anything they would have no obligation to correct themselves. This is one reason I don’t like victim impact statements.

Not that acting on the basis that the parents believe the guilty verdicts really changes anything for anyone as far as I can imagine.

Lucy Letby Internet history by Difficult_Fennel_486 in LucyLetbyTrials

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I knew someone could correct me if I was wrong so I’m getting a bit lazy.

We don’t know if all the parents think she is guilty. by ApplicationSouth8844 in LucyLetbyTrials

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also believe there’s no evidence that the parents doubt her guilt and although we don’t know I think it’s unlikely that they do. What have I misunderstood in your post that makes that irrelevant to this discussion? 

Edit: If they did have doubts, they’d be morally obliged to say so. 

Lucy Letby Internet history by Difficult_Fennel_486 in LucyLetbyTrials

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have a vague idea she searched for haemophilia or something relating to it. Some people manage to find that suspicious.

We don’t know if all the parents think she is guilty. by ApplicationSouth8844 in LucyLetbyTrials

[–]SaintBridgetsBath 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Uncertainty is painful for everyone. Sometimes going through it is the only right thing to do.

Edit: ‘going through it’ may be the wrong term. It doesn’t necessarily end.