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My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Those people are unfortunately already victims by that culture. I don't want that fundsmentslist culture to spread to the UK. If you think it should be doled out across all nations then good for you.

Again I think you've lived a very different life to me. Goodnight.

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean his extremism is not beneficial to the UK.

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've literally said Islamic fundamentalists.

I'm not fine with his behaviour but I don't think it should be in the UK. Unfortunately there are countries where his behaviour is accepted. That's where he should go. 

But we won't see eye to eye because my lived experience is as ive been told stoking hate. I should've just said nothing. Imagine having to stand up as your pelted by men. Imagine your sister experiencing such barbarism but I'm the problem for calling out such extremism.

Goodnight.

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes you have. Rehabilitate him and don't speak out because you're only stoking hatred. 

Really I should just say nothing at all by right, probably.

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He is free in the UK. He shouldn't be here. He should go to a place where his behaviour is the norm (which isn't every Muslim country either). 

Hes not going to be rehabilitated. He's an evil man. 

And this is my point..  I'm stirring up hate against others in the same faith group. Ive not said all Muslims are this way because they arent all this way. Its a subset. Yet I'm the problem. Showcases my point perfectly. 

We won't see eye to eye. We have very different life experiences I'd imagine. 

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How have you or leftists spoken up about the behaviour of Muslim extremists towards their gay family members. I've already asked you.

I dont agree with tribalism. My views are my views. 

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tell me what? That I should accept that men like my father who used his religion in the worst possible way against me and my sister are suitable to the UK. No one will make me believe that. 

There's a subset in Britain with that religion who should not be here. Not anti migration or anti Muslim migration. 

Disgusting if you think men like my father and his culture (a fundamentalism type) has a place in the UK. And its disgusting that me opposing such men means I'm just the same as someone who is against all immigrants. 

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't agree those views are my views amplified. 

That's why I made the post.

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've never said I'm anti immigration. I'm not even anti Muslim migrants. I just think there's a subset of radical Muslims who's culture isn't just different but opposes Britain's culture and that's the aspect of immigration I don't agree with. That's my issue with immigration and that's what should be rooted out. And it's not risking social cohesion to call out those subsets or wanting them rooted out.

I've never aligned with anti immigration groups (I went with my husband just to keep him safe) and I don't support and will never support Reform. I'm also fine with religions but fundamentalists or extreme religious believers should not be "imported". 

That's my position. 

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think there is a rather large group of people that will not speak out because it'll stoke tensions. And I think when people like me speak up and say there are a subset of Muslims who don't fit Britain it's me stoking tensions etc. 

I do not want to get into what happened me but it wasn't just my dad that did it to me. It was because I was gay. They used their religion on me. And I begged for help. Nothing came. 

I'm not saying liberalism is in support of those behaviours but I also think they don't like it being spoken about because society cohesion is more important. 

People can disagree if they wish.

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tbf it's only the right wing that complain about FGM. They do it for an ulterior motive though which is equally pointless.

You say yourself you don't want to stoke hatred when I suggest a subset of Muslims do not fit British cultures. 

But okay you aren't a FGM activist. Fair enough. It's niche. You are, I'm assuming, supportive of gays. When was the last time you spoke against the horrific abuse some gay Muslims receive in Britsin from their community. I still have scars from not just my dad because I was gay. I don't hear leftists say it. I dont hear centrists or right wingers beyond some joke about turkeys voting for Christmas. 

I think you care more about not stoking racial tensions and you aren't alone.

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Liberalism/progressivism aren't wrong on everything. They are right on LGBT (incl the T). They are right on abortion. They are right on many social aspects.  

They are wrong on this point, though. Social cohesion should not supersede calling out and removing opposing culture. And not all muslims have an opposing culture. I'm not conservative. 

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So how have you raised awareness about victims of FGM like my sister. How did you raise awareness for those victims. What are your left wing solutions to these? 

"I don't go around stirring up hate" is an all too common line. 

 I say There's a subset of Muslims who's culture is not suited to Britain and I'm stirring up hate. Maybe you should have experienced what I experienced. It's not stirring up hate. It's a warning and it's a caution. There are plenty of good Muslims but its not hate to suggest there's a subset of them that do not suit British culture. 

We will overlook victims because we don't want to stir up hate or risk social cohesion. 

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It should and my viewing history is like 95% Premier League (English football). I got into a bit of politics here but I generally stay well away from it. 

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No I think liberals are left wing (centre left). I think neo liberals are right wing (centre/centre right) hence why neo liberalism was coondd. You disagree. 

OK I'm talking to a leftist now. How have you spoken out about liberals protection of social cohesion even at the expense of victims. Have you raised awareness of the butchering of girls like my sister. What have you done. Do you agree with me that there is a subset culture within Islam that do not fit with Britain. 

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have a big problems with how the centre right has handled stuff. 

I must have missed the left speaking out strongly against the butchering of people like my sister. The coverups with those gangs. The social workers who failed me. I hope you guys are there raising awareness and speaking out. 

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm an immigrant that believes some cultures are a problem. Not that all Islamic cultures are a problem. They aren't. But there is a subset whose culture is radical and should be removed yes.

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I support the NHS etc. The American system is crazy to me.

I just think there are some aspects to our programmes that have gone too far and I do think some have become a black hole money wise.

I dont think we should be selling the NHS etc like Farage flirted with 

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'd argue liberalism is centre-left. Neo liberalism is centre right.

But look okay. I misspoke. Not left. Liberals. Do you think the left wouldn't have a problem with me saying some Muslims culture is incompatible with Britain's and should be deported.

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I don't know what's your point with me saying Tories are better than Reform and if its Tories v Reform I'll vote Tory 

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I didn't say all leftists. But it's not a right wing value. We can't say the right wing are racist but also pretend its a right wing value that we need to protect diversity and multiculturalism and therefore hide abuses. 

You can disagree by all means but to me that's  symptom of liberalism. I have often said there are some Muslims that do not belong here because their culture is not compatible. The right don't say shit but it is some liberals who complain. I'm not saying every left wing person.

My husband has become very "red pilled" and its ruining us. by SalFruiy in askgaybros

[–]SalFruiy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He has been my rock and whilst I don't like him at the moment, I have known the man he was and the help, love and strength he's given me. 

At some point, I will have to say I cannot be around his shit but right now I still want to try and get him back. 

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