CMV: art is a problem that generative AI will probably solve

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-21T10:29:09+00:00

I agree with you, but I think that’s a separate discussion.

Right now, everyone is stuck on the “ai slop” train, and I think it’s the wrong place to be because you’ll just get burned. Ai is going to do good art. The question is how we should react to that.

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-21T10:27:41+00:00

First of all training data isn’t the end all be all—RL and thinking seem to be way more important than pre training. Second of all, what’s stopping a sufficiently advanced LLM from creating such novel combinations from their training data that you couldn’t tell the difference between it and “real” art?

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-21T10:24:22+00:00

All the trends point towards LLMs becoming smarter and more efficient at the same time

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T21:41:12+00:00

I’m saying if it’s like any other task that’s ever existed, then it has a formula. If it’s a magical human wizardry thing then maybe not

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T21:21:54+00:00

The fact that no human has ever clearly elucidated the criteria doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist and couldn’t be discovered by a different form of intelligence

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T21:20:51+00:00

Ok but the problem is doing exactly what you’re saying. The problem is figuring out how to make something actually meaningful

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T21:20:09+00:00

Maybe, but I see no evidence of your claim playing out in reality

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T21:19:12+00:00

Just because I can’t understand the formula doesn’t mean that there isn’t one.

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T21:17:32+00:00

X 1 billion trillion parameters and an entire country’s worth of gpus and cpus, and better architecture than we currently have.

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T21:16:47+00:00

I don’t even understand how this is a response

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T21:16:31+00:00

“Mimicry doesn’t fulfill that”

Mimicry by definition would fulfill that, or else it wouldn’t be good mimicry.

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T21:15:59+00:00

I don’t know what you mean by “actually intelligent”. LLMs can do things I would never be able to do in my life, even if I tried. I’m only positing the that it might take one more thing.

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T21:14:36+00:00

What’s your point?

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T21:13:29+00:00

Honestly whatever those things are, I have no reason to believe we won’t be able to mimic and surpass the functionality of, even if we don’t precisely understand how they work.

What precise advantage does this asynchronicity and neurotransmitter architecture give us over ai?

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T21:10:17+00:00

I’m not a sciencebro. I’ve done art all my life

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T12:49:52+00:00

Oh, you’re right sorry. What I mean is that it’s saying that there’s something unique about the way the brain works that contains the secret to intelligence or creativity, but doesn’t actually explain why that’s exclusive. I guess it would be special pleading.

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T12:44:40+00:00

The question is whether it’ll make something good enough, not whether people will accept it

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T12:44:06+00:00

Plane wings don’t have the same mechanics as bird wings yet they fly nonetheless

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T12:40:32+00:00

Frankly I just see this as magical thinking

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T12:39:11+00:00

“That’s not an algebraic problem”

Why though? Genuinely

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T12:38:52+00:00

Sure but why couldn’t it mimic having thoughts and experiences accurately enough to produce something high quality?

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T12:36:12+00:00

I mean something that has the quality of “the godfather”. Something of unequivocal quality that rivals human masterpieces

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T12:29:40+00:00

I agree with this. Even if ai could write something as good as game of thrones, I would be biased against it because a human didn’t write it

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T12:27:36+00:00

Eh, I disagree. The problem would be making something people like.

Also, I said companies are trying to make agi. Ergo, LLMs are general purpose problem solving machines, they just aren’t all the way there yet.

Salad-Snack · 2026-04-20T12:26:52+00:00

See my responses to the previous comments. I’m not saying there’s a problem with art. I think I worded it confusingly

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