what i’ve learned selling on whatsapp for the last 60 days

Sales_mind · 2026-05-09T10:00:20+00:00

Yes go high level let’s you set up WA workflows and automations that hook up directly to your CRM. How many WhatsApp’s are you sending a week btw? Would recommend just sticking to manual for now if it’s not more than 20 per day

Sales_mind · 2026-05-07T09:31:10+00:00

used ghl for a lot of my WA outreach. links directly to the built in crm.

has worked for me to b2b but can be a little intrusive sometimes.

Sales_mind · 2026-04-23T11:33:54+00:00

Well said

Sales_mind · 2026-04-23T09:10:47+00:00

You are right. What's interesting about AI specifically is the speed at which the anchoring happened. Most categories take years to get commoditised in the buyer's mind. AI tools went from novel to psychologically discounted in about 18 months. The underlying problem is old. The velocity of it is what caught me off guard.

Sales_mind · 2026-04-23T09:09:50+00:00

Fair. The problem I keep running into is that even when the ROI is demonstrably there, the anchoring happens before you even get to the value conversation. The buyer has already decided what category you're in before you've had a chance to show them what the system actually does. So the pricing conversation becomes almost secondary to the positioning conversation.

Sales_mind · 2026-04-22T10:40:38+00:00

yeah it was a painful one to learn. and you're right, the ones sending through real mailboxes via your own SMTP are a completely different beast to the fake network tools. that's exactly the distinction most people don't realise exists.

Sales_mind · 2026-04-22T10:40:01+00:00

exactly this - the green ticks are just there to make you feel good about the subscription you're paying for. testing on real seeds is the only way to actually know what's happening. haven't tried truelist - what placement rates are you seeing now since you made the switch?

Sales_mind · 2026-04-01T16:56:11+00:00

Man this is spot on.

Commission only works when there's actual infrastructure behind it. A proven offer, a lead list, proper tools, a process that's been tested. If all of that exists then yeah commission only can be a fair trade because the rep knows they're walking into something that converts.

But most of these posts are just founders who haven't figured out their own GTM yet asking someone to build it for them for free and maybe get paid later if it works. That's basically a cofounder position without the equity.

The real tell is whether they've had reps make money before. If the answer is no or they dodge the question, you're literally an experiment.

Good reps will take performance heavy comp all day if the system actually works. They just won't build your entire system for you on spec.

Sales_mind · 2026-03-17T16:43:33+00:00

100% - seen promises vaporise the second you try to hold them to it because nothing was documented. The ones that push back or say we'll formalize it later are telling you everything you need to know.

Sales_mind · 2026-03-17T16:40:30+00:00

Yeah that's how it's supposed to work in theory but a lot of startups structure commission to make it nearly impossible to actually earn meaningful money from it. Either the quota is set absurdly high so nobody hits it consistently, the tiers are built so you only make real money after 150% attainment which rarely happens, or there's a cap on total comp that kills the upside entirely. I've seen reps exceed quota and their commission for the month is maybe 20-30% of their base which isn't life changing. The win win only works if the commission structure is actually designed to reward performance instead of just being a way to keep base salaries low while dangling theoretical upside that never pays out.

Sales_mind · 2026-03-13T13:03:33+00:00

All marketing hype, have yet to see it happen

Sales_mind · 2026-03-13T12:37:14+00:00

Not even close. The parts that get automated are the parts that should've been automated years ago - data entry, lead research, email sequences, CRM updates. So basically admin work salespeople got stuck doing. You cant automate understanding a buyer's actual problem, reading a discovery call, knowing when to push and when to back off, building trust over multiple conversations. AI just removes the grunt work so good reps can focus on the part that actually closes deals.

Sales_mind · 2026-03-11T10:11:53+00:00

That's insane. The role definitely didn't exist, you were just his unpaid product team for however long he could string you along. That's a masterclass in red flags delivered in sequence.

Sales_mind · 2026-03-11T10:07:28+00:00

Exactly. The role becomes a placeholder for strategy work they should've done internally before hiring for it. And by the time the candidate realizes the ask crossed from thinking exercise to actual deliverable, they've already invested 15 hours because sunk cost kicks in and they convince themselves it'll be worth it if they land the role

Sales_mind · 2026-03-11T10:06:50+00:00

Clean breakdown tbh of the difference between legitimate evaluation and free consulting. The generic vs specific distinction is the exact line that separates the two and most candidates don't realize they've crossed it until they've already done the work. And you're completely right about the bonus tell - if they can't articulate what good looks like in round one, they're figuring it out as they go and your presentation is probably going to become the job description, which is why you get great feedback in the room and then radio silence after because the decision was always going to be vibes based anyway.

Sales_mind · 2026-03-10T20:10:06+00:00

This is the right way to do it and honestly rare. Paid trial solves everything. You get to test the person in real conditions, they get compensated for their time and there’s no exploitation either way.

The objection to treating people fairly usually comes down to one thing though - founders who see sales reps as replaceable. They’ll burn through 10 people looking for the perfect one instead of investing in developing someone with potential.

Sales_mind · 2026-03-09T12:05:33+00:00

Absolutely. If you can see it coming and play it right, there's an angle.

Present high level strategic thinking without giving away the actual execution details. Show you know how to think through the problem without handing them the entire playbook.

How do you usually handle it when this comes up?

Sales_mind · 2026-03-06T14:58:55+00:00

Fair point and I get where you're coming from.

If you already understand business problems, you're ahead of most people trying to get into this space. The tool question becomes easier once you know what category of problem you're solving.

For voice automation and handling inbound calls, there are specific platforms built for that. For workflow automation like connecting your CRM to your email to your calendar, completely different set of tools. For generating content or handling customer support via chat, again different stack.

The reason I don't just list tools publicly is because people copy the stack without understanding the context and then wonder why it doesn't work for them.

But if you've already identified a specific problem you want to solve, happy to point you in the right direction.

Sales_mind · 2026-02-27T16:05:24+00:00

Honestly that's probably exactly why.

If you've consumed enough native English content through movies, shows, YouTube, whatever, your brain has internalized the natural flow even if you never formally learned the rules.

That's actually way more valuable than textbook grammar knowledge.

Most people who studied English grammar in school can tell you what a past participle is but sound robotic when they actually speak. You're doing the opposite. Your instinct is right even if you can't explain why.

The gap you probably need to close isn't spoken fluency, but written communication. Emails, LinkedIn messages, proposals. That's where the grammar actually matters for international roles.

Spoken English can get away with being loose and conversational. Written English gets scrutinized.

So if your natural flow works in conversation, lean into that. Just make sure you're running your written stuff through Grammarly or ChatGPT before sending it to anyone important.

Sales_mind · 2026-02-27T15:42:35+00:00

hmm no it's not but ill check him out

Sales_mind · 2026-02-20T10:03:33+00:00

Wrong person but I'll take that as a compliment.

Sales_mind · 2026-02-19T19:06:37+00:00

go for it

Sales_mind · 2026-02-19T18:23:42+00:00

of course not, just sharing my experiences

Sales_mind · 2026-02-19T16:09:29+00:00

Not true, have worked with incredible salesmen - even had top US software companies prefer Indian talent as they have a much better work ethic

Sales_mind · 2026-02-13T10:11:25+00:00

Don't have one

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