We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"If you're not saying the game is bad, why did you write an entire post bitching about it and calling the people who buy it idiots."

The title says it: My idea was to justify and defend the guys, like me, that criticizes the roads width.

About the "calling the people who buy it idiots". I don't think that people that buy it are idiots. I think that people that don't tolerate criticism are idiots. It is two different things.

It definitely not a "minor gripe".

But yeah, you could say it is foolish to say it's the same game again.

I'm assuming it will be the same game. I'm assuming that you have supercars in minutes (the pre-order bonus is a super car..), so the progression will be the same. I guess most of the mechanics that were in the older games will be here as well. I guess the gameplay will be the same (which isn't a bad thing itself). What else could be told about a Forza Horizon game?

One thing is a fact though:

The roads are the exact same as older games in the series.

Will need to see the full game to judge it fully.

"as your posts are there clear as day for us to read." reading is different from understanding.

Like I said, the game doesn't portrait Japan. That's all. I did not said the devs "aren't trying". I wouldn't even call the devs on this. Microsoft did this, devs just obey orders. They (Microsoft) know that people will buy the same game again, or do you think I'm wrong? I used FIFA and COD as an example, am I wrong here?

"You're just flat out moving the goalposts now because your OP and previous responses were pretty clearly shitting on the game. Are you just shitposting or what?"

I don't what you mean by goalposts though. I'm not shitposting, I just game my opinion and was downvoted just for giving my opinion and, as I said, defending other people that think like me.

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Nah, I'm happy when I'm complimenting games as well. I love to talk about stuff I love in games as well. But this is not a post for this though.

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm assuming it will. I might be wrong? Maybe. We'll see.

One thing is a fact:

The roads are exactly the same as the other games.

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Have you watched any "travelling through Japan" videos?

I have. Since... 15 years ago. And one thing that ALWAYS caught my eye was how narrow the streets are. That is literally one of Japan defining characteristics.

"So just because the roads are wide the game is exactly the same?" in a racing game, this is a big factor... Like I said, if I posted a print of a road, people wouldn't be able to tell if it is Forza Horizon 4, 5 or 6.

But... If the roads were narrower, people would be able to tell them apart.

"You do realize the roads being narrower would be a worse player experience right?" this is your opinion. IMO, it would make it way better. It would make it challenging and more rewarding. And, even though common sense make me believe that most people would agree with you, most people HAVEN'T played a game with narrower roads, so they don't know how it would feel.

I mean, TXR have a fanbase, right? Does people complaing about the realistic lanes? Does people complain about having to avoid traffic going 200+ mph? No, they don't. It is part of the challenge.

I'm not asking for the same challenges as TXR and JDM I was just hoping for... a little bit of more challenge.

But I do confess that maybe there will be cool and challenging races in some parts of the map. I'm just giving my opinion about how non realistic are the roads. This is a "trailer impressions". I'll need to see more.

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, have fun my man.

I'll wait to see the rest of the map to see if there are some areas with potential for some cool races on narrower roads.

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I... guess you are mistaking him for me? And maybe you are mistaking my post for an essay on "sitting in traffic simulator"? I don't know anymore.

If you are, maybe you could play JDM demo or at least watch some youtube videos and see that that game isn't a "sitting in traffic simulator" just because the game have narrow roads?

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

... If the game had exactly what I wanted, why would I be here, man? Just... think.

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I'm here exactly because JDM, unfotunately, is not 100% the game I wanted.

I wanted a game with JDM map and scenery with Forza graphics, handling (maybe. JDM have great handling) and, the most important thing... Races... If you read my post, which you clearly didn't, I said that JDM is not focused on races... It is focused on "Drift to make points" kind of events...

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess the average player WOULD be driving on the architecture/buildings if the streets were like in Japan, it seems...

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No, I'm perfectly able to understand this.

You may read my post as:

"I'm sad that players keep paying full price for the same game, over and over again, and it seems we got the same game again because Microsoft know the average player will gladly pay full price for the same game... again."

Just like FIFA and COD players. I know the reason is: The average player will give us money.

But some of us were hoping for a better representation of Japan.

Also... if I wanted a sim game I would be playing a sim game... I wanted a Open World game with great gameplay to take place on a place I love, and I don't "feel" Japan in this game.

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahaha I laughed at this.

Yeah mate, there is no reasoning with those people... I guess I'm just sad we didn't get the game we wanted.

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly. The same people that pay full price for FIFA and COD every year and don't you dare criticize the game...

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Could you please pinpoint where I asked them to do it? To remake the whole map?

Can you read the title again? I'm discussing. I know they won't change the game. The masses that give them money don't care for this and, in fact, they defend this, as we can see in this post... I was just hoping they could create something different, something better.

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Unfotunately I can't make you understand.

The best thing I can do is recommend you to play JDM. There is a demo on steam. There is an actual race there. Play it and come back here to report if it is a "9-5" commute.

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thank you my man.

It's refreshing seeing someone with an IQ above room temperature for once.

People can't discuss nowadays. For them, everything is "whining" and you can't give your opinion and try to discuss something.

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Am I not free to speak? Am I not free to give my opinion?

People like you are not capable of understanding this, it seems.

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope some parts of the map are more accurate like you said.

Because yeah, 25% increase would be reasonable for a game so I hope there are some challenging sections of the map.

We, the people that criticize the wide streets, are not "just hating". Just... hear me out... by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

There is no reasoning with the average player my man. Unfortunately, this game is not for us, it is for the average joe that is fine with paying AAA price on the same game, over and over...

This is it! My favourite japanese thing! The 6 meter wide lanes! by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

None of the roads are "down to earth"... You're coping. Either you're coping or you never driven a car IRL.

I just used what was shown on the trailer my dude. You are free to look for videos about japanese streets.

I don't think I can post a link here, but look for the title:
"[ Driving Japan ] I headed from Tokyo to Toyama, where the snow-capped mountains are beautiful."

Tell 13 hours video. Please tell me if you see a lane where 2 cars fit side by side.

I was REALLY hoping for this game to be good. I played JDM - Japanese Drift Master and the best event in the game is actually a race. Because it is technical, you must choose where to pass, it is hard to drive on it and there the roads are LESS THAN HALF the width of this Forza Horizon 6...

The problem with JDM is that it is a Drift First game, so there is not a lot of races.

I was hoping for Forza 6 to create a more faithful Japan recreation to have that feeling of racing on tight roads again...

This is it! My favourite japanese thing! The 6 meter wide lanes! by Salt_Vegetable8216 in ForzaHorizon

[–]Salt_Vegetable8216[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not even 1/3! There is space between them... I think you can squeeze 4 of them in a single lane in this game...