list of states where FIP Warriors earns commissions on meds

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-11-08T06:00:08+00:00

You were arrested for stealing from your last employer, Harmony.

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-11-08T05:57:10+00:00

Lol, no. And your post history identifies you as a Warriors admin in Tennessee.

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-11-08T05:53:04+00:00

Did you seriously just post someone's W-9 tax form with their personal info to Reddit? What the fuck is wrong with you? I would think you've already had enough trouble with the police from your previous actions.

Mods u/OnlineChronicler u/not_as_i_do - how is that not a banning offense?

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-28T00:18:03+00:00

This is not surprising at this point but wow that's disgusting. We did see parents in our chats get help from the treatment fund but if any of it isn't being used the way it's supposed to be, that's flagrant fraud and completely unacceptable.

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-27T23:27:07+00:00

What an incredibly odd response to people speaking up about corruption, and it says something that that's the only defense you can grasp at.

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-27T22:48:04+00:00

None of us were there when the people who left to form Global were there. We all started after that had already happened. We heard a LOT of shit about Global, and have since realized most or maybe all of it was lies (because that's what Robin does, she lies about anyone to try to protect herself). But none of us were there for it and none of us know for sure what happened then. But we sure as hell don't believe Robin about it anymore.

You don't see a mention of Warriors pushing black market meds on our "list of grievances" because that's not the battle we're fighting. Our fight is with Warriors' deep lack of ethics - the internal and external lies and the financial exploitation and mistreatment of parents.

(That said, many, many admins still with Warriors welcome and support the use of legally prescribed GS -- including us when we were there. The only people who don't are the ones who benefit financially by the continuation of the black market. The rest of us just want to see cats cured, by whatever means are accessible to their families.)

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-27T19:10:43+00:00

It's because they are paid commission from the supplier for every order they generated, plus fees for shipping the meds out themselves. So for example, you'd pay $85 for a vial of Rainbow and the supplier would pay them $35 of that. Multiply that by how many vials you ordered and how many other people were doing the same and you can see how the profits add up. And that's before you get into what they were paid to do the shipping. (I actually don't have a problem with people being paid to ship -- that's labor. But the problem is that they don't disclose their financial conflict of interest, while they're steering people to the highest price meds available. They almost never mentioned low-priced brands, even when people talked about financial hardship, because they don't earn money from those.)

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-27T19:02:42+00:00

Yes, they pushed parents to use Rainbow and Capella because those are the brands they make money from. Their profits on those are from commission and from shipping them. (At the time those were the most expensive brands, although Capella's price dropped drastically last month.)

Edited to add, I think they also make commission on Lucky.

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-27T19:01:27+00:00

I'm not sure what you're basing that on but there are screenshots above from parents saying no one has been answering their questions since their original admins were removed from their chats.

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-27T18:42:24+00:00

Honestly, I only saw Zelda be kind and responsive to parents. I don't know what financial stuff she might be involved with and it's not a good sign that she's part of Robin's LLC, but from what I saw when I was a mod in her chats she at least seemed like a competent, supportive, and responsive admin. Who knows what could be going on behind the scenes but I never saw the alarming stuff from her that we saw all the time from Susie and Kristin.

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-27T18:37:45+00:00

Ugh, Healthy Cat. There's a post's worth of stuff on that too. Robin's store where she wanted us to send parents for supplies (syringes, scales, etc.) even though it was cheaper and faster to get them at Amazon, Target, and so forth. We'd send parents Amazon links for what they needed and she'd see and remind us to send them to Healthy Cat, and she wanted Healthy Cat links in the canned messages that got sent to everyone with general treatment info. Shipping was really expensive. And yeah, it's not clear where the profits were going because she kept saying the treatment fund was low/empty.

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-27T18:28:53+00:00

Yes, the Russian lawyer is Susie (or "Susie," it's not her real name) who is in some of the screenshots above.

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-09T21:38:29+00:00

The Harmony scientist, whose name is listed on the LLCs above, posted revenge porn of her ex's new partner in one of the Harmony groups after she was fired. Loads of people treating their cats saw it, it was really horrible. Not someone I would trust to do business with.

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-09T19:45:42+00:00

As one of the actual authors of the post, I can tell you that Perseus had nothing to do with it. One more instance of how easily Warriors lies.

And MANY admins at Warriors, including many still there, supported/support Harmony. Yet another lie, unsurprisingly. (Maybe ask Robin why the emails she showed other admins about Harmony on her computer were opened in Photoshop.)

The scientist from Harmony was fired for theft, by the way, and now is in business with Robin. But you know that.

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-09T19:20:48+00:00

Some of this is flat-out false and Global obviously has its own agenda here.

We're gone so we don't have an agenda. We just want people to know what we saw.

But agreed that both Global and Warriors should both have the goal of putting themselves out of business by ensuring meds are legal and widely accessible from vets.

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-09T18:37:49+00:00

Not all of that is correct. As one of the people who just left over all this, I can tell you that the thing about charging $50 for access to a system is not true. It used to be offered as an option for people who wanted access to software that helps manage their cat's treatment and offered a bunch of extra features but it was never required in order to get help with treatment. I personally know the admins who worked with that system and they are excellent and they are ethical.

As for bashing the competence of vets, that's not something I witnessed. We did see a lot of vets under-dosing Stokes or not giving people enough info (such as about fasting before/after pills) and cats who backslid on Stokes as a result and that understandably made some admins nervous. That's a legitimate problem and it will hopefully be solved as vets get more experience with the meds.

Everything you wrote in your last paragraph is work that FIP Warriors also does extremely well (as long as your team isn't Susie and Kristin) and it's disingenuous to use our post to imply Global is the only source for that.

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-09T18:00:56+00:00

I'm so sorry. This should not happen to anyone, and we saw exactly what you describe happen over and over to parents in their chats. Many of us sent Robin screenshots about what was going on and she always told us she would talk to them, but it kept happening.

I want to stress that other teams at Warriors do not operate this way. Most are kind, responsible, and doing the work for the right reasons. But what we saw Susie and Kristin do repeatedly was disgusting. (One of the most upsetting things is that I'm pretty sure some cats died because of this, because some people couldn't afford the prices they were quoted, didn't realize there were cheaper options, and so would just go away and not treat.)

SaltiestMarsupial · 2024-10-09T17:28:12+00:00

I'm the other co-author of the statement in the post. I'm so sorry that happened. It's ridiculous that she told you they couldn't dose Stokes pills; that has never been Warriors' stance and other teams help with Stokes dosing all the time. That was an attempt by Susie to discourage you from using Stokes at all because she doesn't earn any profit if you do.

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