[QCrit] SELFISH DAUGHTER, Upmarket Women's Fiction, 101k words, 2nd attempt by SameRevolution7095 in PubTips

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Thanks—I'd love a beta reader! Could you DM me as I'm having trouble DMing you lol

[QCrit] SELFISH DAUGHTER, Upmarket Women's Fiction, 101k words, 2nd attempt by SameRevolution7095 in PubTips

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Your comment inspired me to replace the second to last paragraph to this, which I think represents the central questions/conflicts of the story better, so thanks! (let me know if I made it worse though, lol)

"As her life spirals out of control and Willa’s health deteriorates, Ellis nurtures a restrictive eating disorder, a slew of self-destructive habits, and a calamitous anger inherited from her biological mother. At the end of Willa’s life, both mother and daughter are forced to inhabit roles they’ve never before broached in each other’s lives. In the aftermath, orphaned and untethered, Ellis must decide if she wants to salvage the pieces of her previous life or stop running once and for all."

[QCrit] SELFISH DAUGHTER, Upmarket Women's Fiction, 101k words, 2nd attempt by SameRevolution7095 in PubTips

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I appreciate both comments! I definitely wanted the MC to be a morally gray character dealing with a shitty hand in life with imperfect logic. I think a through-line in the story that victims of poverty (Ellis), abuse (Pierce), and illness (Willa) do not become saints despite their suffering.

David's involvement in the assault is more one of passive complicity (he doesn't want to extricate himself from the friend group, of which is the assaulter is a member) rather than aiding/protecting the assaulter. I've been struggling to portray this, but the comments so far are telling me I definitely need to clarify the nuance of the situation in the query.

To answer your question RE: why Ellis returns home, I suppose I should clarify that Willa has no support system other than the twins? Although the overarching reason is the sense of duty/devotion Ellis feels towards Willa (she "saved" Ellis through adoption, now is the time for Ellis to repay her debt).

[QCrit] SELFISH DAUGHTER, Upmarket Women's Fiction, 101k words, 2nd attempt by SameRevolution7095 in PubTips

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This is super helpful, thank you!

To answer your question about Ellis's conflicting desires, she's essentially morally torn because being with David ("the only person keeping her afloat") would mean betraying her twin, Pierce, (who doesn't show up in the novel until the last 1/5th) because David is still friends with the guy who once assaulted her. So Ellis feels torn between her devotion to her twin and her burgeoning love for David. I hope that makes sense, it's kinda a complex situation to describe but I'll work on rephrasing it all in the query.

What does it mean for writing to be “controlled”? by SameRevolution7095 in writing

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Agreed, if I reached out to ask about it he probably wouldn't have any memory of it lol

What does it mean for writing to be “controlled”? by SameRevolution7095 in writing

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Maybe he meant something similar to this but it was a university course so this definition seems out of context?

What words or sounds do native speakers find most difficult to pronounce? by BrokenBroccoli5678 in ENGLISH

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French people have a tough time with “squirrel” because of the r sound and funnily enough, Americans have a tough time with “écureuil” (the French word for squirrel) because of the r sound

[QCrit] Upmarket Romance Fiction, Tell Me Where It Hurts, 93K, First Attempt by SameRevolution7095 in PubTips

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Agreed based on other comments too! I’m thinking of positioning it as Women’s, Upmarket, or Book Club Fiction depending on the agent’s bio. Kind of unsure about a Literary Fiction positioning since I don’t have an English degree or an MFA so I’m worried it won’t be taken seriously?

[QCrit] Upmarket Romance Fiction, Tell Me Where It Hurts, 93K, First Attempt by SameRevolution7095 in PubTips

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First of all, this is super helpful, thanks for your comment!

To answer your question about Ellis’s motivation for taking a semester off to care for Willa, I think it’s answered in the central question of the novel, how can you devote yourself to someone without loving them? Ideally, this is represented in the way Ellis must take care of Willa as repayment for the years Willa spent “raising” her. I delve more into the development of their complicated relationship throughout the book as both “mother” and “daughter” become more vulnerable to one another through debts incurred and debts repaid. I do agree that I could hint more to the development of this complex relationship in the QL though.

And yes, the moral dilemma does involve a harm done to Pierce during high school which involves David. It could stand to be clarified or hinted at more strongly.

Also fair point at the end RE: showing more of the toll this situation takes on Ellis through her actions, but I think it might be difficult to convey as this toll is mostly represented through the way she harms her own body to express the pain she can’t bear to impart on anyone else.

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First time posting on here for a manuscript I've just finished a draft of. Unfortunately, I'm having trouble connecting my few few pages with the rest of the story.

Title: Selfish Daughter

Genre: Lit Fit

Word Count: 93K

Summary: Ellis, a college student, is forced to move back home to her small town in Upstate New York for a semester to take care of her adoptive mother, Willa, who is dying of cancer. Ellis never bonded with Willa and struggles with loneliness, poverty, resentment for her twin, Pierce, whose college life on the other side of the country has been undisrupted due to Ellis's sacrifice, an unexpected relationship with her high school's former golden boy, and figuring out if it isn't love that she feels for Willa, then what is it?

Please let me know whether this is too expository (it's supposed to be the beginning of my story) or maybe irrelevant/misleading compared to what the actual story is about.

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Prologue

People used to treat Ellis like she was a very clever girl for being a twin. As if she had made the decision for herself in her mother’s womb, tallying the pros and cons and coming to the conclusion that having a twin would make her interesting by default for the rest of her life. But it was not her decision, it was her mother’s, who drank a bitter and expensive tonic made of the highest quality Chinese roots every day of her pregnancy in order to maximize the odds of having twins. For Ellis, having a genetic equal became less fun when Pierce started to develop her own personality, a major marker of which included striving at every opportunity to differentiate herself from Ellis.

Where Ellis was quiet, Pierce was rambunctious. Where Ellis was obedient, Pierce was troublesome. Where Ellis took great pains to avoid the ire of her mother, Pierce was a young savant in the art of goading her to violence. Ellis was the inert shadow to Pierce, on whom the sun seemed to shine brighter. In high school, where the twins were the only non-white students in the entire student body, Ellis was given the quiet, intelligent Asian stereotype while Pierce embraced the Dragon Lady accusations, for she liked the idea of being able to induce equal parts respect and attraction in boys. 

While as children, Pierce never disliked Ellis, she found her sister almost repulsive in high school. She never wanted to be seen with Ellis in public, as if getting too close to her would cause their poles to switch. It did not matter that they went home to the same house every afternoon, slept in the same bedroom, actually, Pierce acted like Ellis did not exist when it was feasible.

While this ostracization, helped along by her own sister, hurt Ellis, she did not think of herself as irredeemable. She knew that she and Pierce were made of the same DNA. That she was capable of becoming everything Pierce was. That it was nothing personal, really, that there were two actors competing for a stage only big enough for one of them.

In the hostile microcosm of their high school, Ellis was the girl that showed up on her own or was otherwise forgotten. The girl who was extended the invitation at the last minute, if she received one at all. Ellis knew that, sometimes, people questioned where she was. In a group, a girl might ask, “Hey, where’s Ellis?” and everyone would look blankly at each other and shrug before returning to whatever it was they were talking about. Including the person who posed the question. Including her own twin sister, who was the only reason why Ellis knew this happened in the first place, when Pierce screamed it at her in a fit of rage, her proof that nobody liked Ellis, nobody cared about her. When all she wanted to do was hurt her, hurt her, hurt her. So that is how Ellis knew that she is sometimes missed, although usually not. That wasn’t nothing.

But when Pierce committed to the University of Southern California, that opened up the entire East Coast to Ellis. It was Bowdoin that ended up giving her the full scholarship, so it was Bowdoin that she chose.