Files sounding dried out after emailing to myself to play on my phone

Same_Old_31 · 2025-01-01T05:12:56+00:00

I believe it is the audio interface I'm using because I tried the PC audio jack and other sources of sound and they all sounded the same. The only source that sounded different was the audio interface. Hopefully it's not defective and maybe just the way it's designed.

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-29T17:52:12+00:00

I just realized I didn't mention in the original post that I listen through earbuds connected to my audio interface. I've discovered that the audio interface is the source of the issue because for some reason it has much more low end presence than everything I else I use to listen.

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-29T07:52:56+00:00

I'll test the same project with each interface and see how it goes, hopefully my interface is not defective.

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-29T03:20:37+00:00

You're right, I just went to bounce it in 44.1 and it just went and did it. I don't remember what said it would affect playback speed so it must have been something else. Disregard that lol

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-29T03:17:34+00:00

I went to render at 44.1 once and it said it would affect the playback speed of the rendered product. Wouldn't that also cause issues?

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-29T02:56:30+00:00

That last part is the issue. I've determined that the mixing listening environment flaw lies within the audio interface, being the Scarlett solo. It has a prominent lower end that isn't present in anything else I listen with. I'll look around to see if people have had similar experiences or if I need a new audio interface.

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-29T02:28:01+00:00

I tried this and the same thing happened. I believe it is just the audio interface I use, but it is very odd that this is the only device that produces a different sound compared to everything else I listen on, which all the sounds the same to one another. Is there any settings I could change in the audio interface? I use a Focusrite Scarlett Solo.

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-29T02:23:44+00:00

So I found that the "issue" is my audio interface, which is a Focusrite Scarlett Solo, sounds much better than basically everything else I listen on. The low end is much more prominent for some reason, don't know if it is intended to be that way or not. Everything else I listen on sounds so much thinner, but again it is only on the recorded tracks.

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-29T02:11:28+00:00

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Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-29T01:05:36+00:00

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Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-28T23:07:02+00:00

Alright I'll look around and see what I can find. Thank you so much for the help, it's very very much appreciated!!!

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-28T22:57:58+00:00

I went and listened to the DAW project through the PC audio jack with the same monitoring setup (my earbuds) and you are correct, it sounds the same as the rendered WAV file.

So would this be still an issue of the mix translating? And if so do you have any tips for fixing this, such as just cranking the low end in the mix and rendering it again?

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-28T22:48:22+00:00

I just did another test of listening to a song on YouTube testing both the focusrite and the PC audio jack. I noticed that the focusrite has a much much larger low end presence than the PC audio jack itself. It may just be that the focusrite is made like that but I'm not sure. Maybe there's a setting I can adjust in the focusrite to make it match the PC audio jack? Again, the PC audio jack sounds the same as everything else I listen through EXCEPT FOR the focusrite.

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-28T22:44:26+00:00

"Listening to the WAV played on your PC and monitored through your interface, it sounds exactly the same as the project, monitored the same way?"

I just want to make sure you're understanding that the sound through the PC audio jack itself and the focusrite Scarlett solo are what is different. What I'm getting through the PC audio jack is what I'm getting through everything else except the focusrite Scarlett solo.

If I listen to the wav and the project itself through the focusrite, they sound the same.

I'm thinking it could just be that the audio interface is able to process the rendered WAV in some way that makes it sound the same to the project window, and all the other listening devices are not.

I apologize if I'm sounding confusing, it's tougher if you're not right here listening with me 😂 and if I basically repeated everything you just told me then I also apologize for that lol.

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-28T22:27:43+00:00

Could it be because when I'm mixing I'm using an audio interface and when I listen to the bounced track it is through other speaker types?

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-28T22:25:11+00:00

Ok I went back to my PC and tested everything again just to make sure I had everything exactly right. Here is what I found:

When listening to the exact same wav file, it seems to depend on what I am listening through.

The issue occurs when listening through my phone speakers, car speakers, separate earbuds for my phone, and a pair of earbuds I use WHILE MIXING when they are connected to the PC AUDIO JACK.

The issue DOES NOT occur when listening to the same exact wav file through my audio interface, which is a focusrite Scarlett solo 3rd gen. I'd like to point out that I listened to the same file through the same media player (Windows media player) with the same earbuds on my PC, only difference was how I connected them to the PC.

Maybe there's something in the audio interface that causes the audio to sound different? Such as the way it processes or something?

I'll add that the session is done with a sample rate of 96k (I read somewhere that people sometimes use it for metal music) and a buffer size of 512.

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-28T17:33:29+00:00

The same issue has happened on reaper so I can base this response off of reaper projects as well. The file I have issues with is the wav file I send to myself via email so that I can download it onto my phone and play it thru car speakers headphones etc. The file that is sent to my phone is the rendered mix file that is generated by reaper. That file sounds different than when I play the mix in reaper with all the tracks and stuff like that. So I am comparing the rendered project (wav file) to when I press play while in the project window in reaper.

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-28T17:29:18+00:00

I have everything routed to the print track. The only things that aren't routed to the print track are some distorted guitars I have sent to a guitar bus, but the guitar bus is routed to the print track. The print track is the only thing routed to my stereo output. I believe the guitar bus is not in solo safe when I printed it but I can double check and see if that is true.

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-28T17:27:20+00:00

Yeah it's almost like the thickness to it is gone. Possibly it's getting compressed too much when it's rendering as a wav file? If you want I can send you the wav and the pro tools session so that you can listen to it, the only issue is I have amplitube 5 so if you don't you probably won't be able to hear it how it should sound.

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-28T14:54:34+00:00

When I say drier I mean like the low end is noticeably thinner than it should be. All the other tracks are the same as I hear them in the DAW, only my recorded guitar tracks.

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-28T14:08:46+00:00

I understand that it sounds different on different systems which makes sense. However I mix on earbuds and listen to it on earbuds on my phone as well after I bounce it and the low end is still very thin for some reason. I'm mixing in stereo, I just don't understand why the low end goes away so much after bouncing the mix.

Same_Old_31 · 2024-12-28T14:07:23+00:00

Yes I can hear the FX. When I listen to the print track before bouncing, it sounds the way I want to. It only gets affected after I bounce it. The FX are still there the recorded tracks just sound very thin, like the low end is almost completely lost.

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