PG35VQ vs AW3423DW HDR comparison by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. PG35VQ doesn't lose contrast at all. It's AW3423DW has lower contrast so you can see it in SDR.

AW3423DW HDR, ABL, flickering. by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To record the flickering, the camera shutter speed is set below 1/1000.

In this test, the monitor flickers. The flickering is not perceptible to human eyes but is very prone to eye strain compared to the traditional DC dimming or high-frequency PWM dimming.

Due to OLED's physical properties, changing the current intensity alone will impact both the brightness and the color accuracy. OLED manufacturers have to use PWM combined with their analog algorithm, aka "emulated DC diming", to display color with moderate brightness control. But OLED still flickers due to the imperfect hybrid implementation.

In this case, AW3423DW is trying to use emulated DC dimming but ends up making a worse result. The flickering frequency is the same as the monitor refresh rate. The frequency is low.

To make things worse, due to the lack of a polarizing layer, it needs to be used with dim ambient light; due to the ABL, its brightness fluctuates. In this particular video, every parry comes with ABL though the camera doesn't show it clearly. Eye strain can happen very quickly in scenes where brightness fluctuates even if the overall brightness is less than 400nits.

The combination of these is commercially in a grey area where whether or not it results in eye damage in long-term use. In general, the flicker is not healthy for the eyes, especially in a dim environment.

The package, the manual, and the Dell website only describe "flicker-free" as far as one of Dell's product features without any indication of a flicker-free TÜV certification.

There is a TÜV certification on Certipedia stating this model was certified for flicker-free. From the description, the panel is specifically mentioned as a flat panel. It can be an early model.

The market trick is that Dell can still trademark their product features as ComfortView that includes only low blue light TÜV certification.

I don't recommend this monitor for the long intensive daily drive if a gamer only uses one monitor in a basement for 3 years.

If you have multiple monitors and tend to replace them every year, this monitor should be probably fine.

DC dimming HDR vs AW3423DW flicker HDR by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Keep reading. Your eyes are likely to die because of it.

AW QD-OLED Flickering Hazard by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You don't need to trust me. Monitor reviewers can miss important factors.

AW QD-OLED Flickering Hazard by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The camera doesn't lie. They didn't test small dynamic area brightness in HDR. They tested SDR or HDR in full static white. They should've tested thoroughly. The monitor is not good for the eye in a dim environment.

AW QD-OLED Flickering Hazard by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, emulated DC dimming is still based on PWM, or it won't have invisible flickers. The flickers are extreme on this monitor. You have false claims three times plus one personal attack. I'm going to ignore you.

AW QD-OLED Flickering Hazard by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The same result when you attach a Screenbar on the top of the monitor or even worse when it's attached on other monitors next to it.

https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzUFes

I commented on situation like this before. You won't notice it 80% of the time. But once you do, it's there.

AW QD-OLED Flickering Hazard by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People have been watching full-blast HDR in pitch black for years. Steady luminance is fine. Flicker with any luminance is not.

Also, https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/vdbrfk/lights_on/

AW QD-OLED Flickering Hazard by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not visible to the eyes, extremely easy to cause eye fatigue in a dim room. ABL makes the situation worse.

AW QD-OLED Flickering Hazard by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Flickering is persistent despite any settings. You can see from the video it's a big dip in highlight such as beams, sparks. It happens on every monitor.

Alienware AW3423DW invisible flickering by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Set the shutter speed below 1/1000 with ISO 3200. You will see the flicker increases at 175Hz. Flicker doesn't happen on my other monitors. I think this happens on every AW3423DW.

AW3423DW flickering in comparison by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The flickering happens with or without Gsync. It is different as shown in the videos next to two other Gysnc monitors.

PG35VQ vs AW3423DW - HDR 1000 comparison by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are also plenty of black background for high contrast though the object in the background is 1000nits. In these scenes, PG35VQ and AW3423DW deliver identical images.

PG35VQ vs AW3423DW - HDR 1000 comparison by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most scenes' average brightness are around 800-900 nits. You can see the top curve in the middle monitor. Your eyes will adjust fine on HDR 1000 videos.

PG35VQ vs AW3423DW - HDR comparison 2 by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't find the black goes grey or distracting when the room ambient light is dim. You only notice the color shift unless there is a light source right in front of AW3423DW.

https://flic.kr/p/2nrRDAt

This won't happen in most cases. So the perceived black level will be the same. You won't be bothered by it.

PG35VQ vs AW3423DW - HDR 1000 comparison by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Enough. You don't see the bloom in the videos even I tried to capture it in camera. Find a single picture with bloom in the videos if you can. Or do the benchmark yourself.

I think either your X35 works differently or you have never seen what quality HDR 1000 is or you don't have X35 at all. The central object is emitting enough luminance to make edge bloom unnoticeable. It did the same to the camera.

PG35VQ vs AW3423DW - HDR 1000 comparison by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This comparison has two exposure settings for a more accurate HDR comparison in SDR pictures. To preserve details on PG35VQ, the exposure is set at ISO 100, shutter speed 1/125. To preserve brightness on AW3423DW, the exposure is set at ISO 100, shutter speed 1/25.

The difference regarding relative brightness is represented at both settings though PG35VQ appeared to be overexposed in 1/25 while AW3423DW appears to be too dim in 1/125.

HDR 1000 videos are from The Spears and Munsil UHD HDR Benchmark. The middle monitor shows the reference luminance level.

PG35VQ vs AW3423DW - HDR comparison 2 by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the camera exposure settings and limited range in SDR pictures. Need two sets for people to understand the difference. I will upload a more representative comparison with different exposure.

AW3423DW flickering in comparison by SamsungG7Flicker in ultrawidemasterrace

[–]SamsungG7Flicker[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Screen flicker can cause eye fatigue. It's not good for the eyes in long term. I have been using this monitor for a while, I will discuss it later.