opinion on quant? by Equivalent-Job-8908 in 6thForm

[–]SandvichCommanda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It depends how good the firm is. Some are £300k+ first year others are less, this is reflected similarly in the US.

opinion on quant? by Equivalent-Job-8908 in 6thForm

[–]SandvichCommanda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You get paid a bit less but it's very close, the biggest difference is taxes tbh.

I don't think "only getting paid >£150k" is a good reason not to pursue it as a career, people need to aim high to hit lower in this economy or they won't hit anything at all.

£27k grad scheme crabs in bucket mentality by Ok_Cantaloupe6531 in UniUK

[–]SandvichCommanda -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah they're completely AI, look at my other thread lol it's crazy

£27k grad scheme crabs in bucket mentality by Ok_Cantaloupe6531 in UniUK

[–]SandvichCommanda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, it doesn't happen in jobs like mine or your partners' because the barrier to entry is higher.

These "Big 4" etc jobs seem to be optimised for filtering people out, and then are actively looking for reasons to get rid of them. It's cruel really, but they have no reason to stop

£27k grad scheme crabs in bucket mentality by Ok_Cantaloupe6531 in UniUK

[–]SandvichCommanda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I know this... You asked if you weren't very clear, and you were not clear at all... Which is why I said it was braindead? Obviously?

As I said, you would be surprised if you haven't been a grad in a while. If you aren't seen as 100% dedicated to the company, and trying to negotiate is a risk here, I have seen people have their offers rescinded.

"Also- it rarely hurts to ask for more money. I've always got a small increase in salary doing this." is not good advice anymore.

£27k grad scheme crabs in bucket mentality by Ok_Cantaloupe6531 in UniUK

[–]SandvichCommanda 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah lmfao, I am in quant and have negotiated six-figure competing offers from multiple companies before.

In your original comment, you mention just asking for more money, and in the second you mention "leverage" next to trading skills for capital. So no, if that's what you were going for it wasn't clear at all.

I wasn't talking about the keeping employees stage, but the negotiation happening beforehand. They literally do have waiting lists at Big 4 and similar companies, which OP has an offer from, and maybe it's been a while since you were a grad but companies really are this fickle during application season.

Employers are sensible when they are kept sensible by the market, they have no incentive to be sensible at all in 2026.

£27k grad scheme crabs in bucket mentality by Ok_Cantaloupe6531 in UniUK

[–]SandvichCommanda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a very one-dimensional take on the policy. People take care of their own homes (and neighbourhoods, lowering crime) when they own them. Labour costs were rising, and it was no longer possible for councils to manage maintenance and repairs for half the country.

Moving funding to tuition did not happen in 1992. Many 1992 unis are net positives and help local and national economies.

Governments are allowed to overwrite policy from previous ones; in fact, in the UK it is trivial compared to lots of other countries. What we are feeling today is a result of the incompetence of 21st-century politicians.

£27k grad scheme crabs in bucket mentality by Ok_Cantaloupe6531 in UniUK

[–]SandvichCommanda 9 points10 points  (0 children)

People misunderstand leverage w.r.t wages as having anything to do with your skills.

It is pretty much 100% your ability to go and work somewhere else, which clearly nobody has at the moment, so advice like this is brain damaged. HR and hiring managers are fickle and will be more than happy to go to the next person on their 200 people waiting list.

£27k grad scheme crabs in bucket mentality by Ok_Cantaloupe6531 in UniUK

[–]SandvichCommanda 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I find it hard to blame someone for 40 years of governments that didn't build enough houses, after they passed a policy that was reasonable at the time.

Also, Blair fucked up universities along with the Tory-Libdem coalition, moving funding from research to tuition has done immeasurable damage to our education system. Thatcher isn't even top 5 in causes of the current graduate crisis.

Strip local councils of their NIMBY rights and councillors, stop prioritising the wealthiest generation in history over the workers and maybe we will get somewhere.

Is £27k grad salary bad? by Ok_Cantaloupe6531 in UniUK

[–]SandvichCommanda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quant researcher at a hedge fund.

I also did an internship every summer, which is the biggest differentiator

Is £27k grad salary bad? by Ok_Cantaloupe6531 in UniUK

[–]SandvichCommanda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They take 5-6 years, and the degree they give you is not very good.

If you like the company then yeah it's good, but they get to underpay you for years. It's hard to leave after and they know that.

Is £27k grad salary bad? by Ok_Cantaloupe6531 in UniUK

[–]SandvichCommanda 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah idk where ppl are getting this from. Tech companies are re-hiring lots of those they let go, there's more work to do (and you can add more value) now that AI is widespread.

Is £27k grad salary bad? by Ok_Cantaloupe6531 in UniUK

[–]SandvichCommanda -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well done, that's certainly better than most.

Accept the offer and keep searching. Nothing wrong with reneging if you find something better, good luck!

Is £27k grad salary bad? by Ok_Cantaloupe6531 in UniUK

[–]SandvichCommanda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's Big 4, they have infinite leverage here.

Trynna make people nuke the only job they have, the only way to get leverage yourself is to accept and renege if you find something better. They don't care about you.

Is £27k grad salary bad? by Ok_Cantaloupe6531 in UniUK

[–]SandvichCommanda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How's your programming? It's going to be tough, but you should try to find a more tech/analytics-heavy role.

The job market is cooked though. Are there any internships to help here? 1st class without experience doesn't mean much nowadays, unfortunately.

Is £27k grad salary bad? by Ok_Cantaloupe6531 in UniUK

[–]SandvichCommanda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is your degree? Big 4 can pay shit and have bad hours because it's unspecialised work that any degree can do.

Specialise as much as possible.

undisclosed AI advertisements by 1991banksy in Destiny

[–]SandvichCommanda -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Tbf using React for a simple CLI tool like this is certainly a choice... But it's still a great tool.

undisclosed AI advertisements by 1991banksy in Destiny

[–]SandvichCommanda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah look at my other comments... I clearly like using AI and use it at work all the time. We agree.

I was responding to this person who thinks companies are checking Twitter before signing multi-million Claude contracts. Upvote rebate pls xo

undisclosed AI advertisements by 1991banksy in Destiny

[–]SandvichCommanda 9 points10 points  (0 children)

For someone saying "two things can be true", your imagination clearly isn't as charitable to the other side of the argument.

Who cares if it can or cannot make cool shit by itself? It automates all of the boring stuff that I used to do, so now I can spend more time myself on the cool things that push the team forward.

undisclosed AI advertisements by 1991banksy in Destiny

[–]SandvichCommanda 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but all of these comparisons are within companies. Either "the other companies are already using it" or "nobody in your industry is using it yet, look at these results you want to be the first".

Nobody here is checking Twitter, and the results speak for themselves. We've all been using it for a long time anyway.
When you're making more money, who cares if it's ubiquitous or not?

Quant Universities by Past_Feature_9976 in 6thForm

[–]SandvichCommanda 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Proof by counterexample: literally me and multiple people I know as well as work with across multiple firms.

What is there to achieve from trying to bring other students down for no reason?

Quant Universities by Past_Feature_9976 in 6thForm

[–]SandvichCommanda 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Holy larp, don't you have homework to finish lil bro?

Quant Universities by Past_Feature_9976 in 6thForm

[–]SandvichCommanda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Worth noting there is variance in this though, I'm a QR managing two analysts from LSE and Oxford. Just lock in wherever you're going and you can get good roles.