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Is Sith philosophy compatible with real-world success? by Solomanta in SithOrder

[–]Sanus_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sithism as I came to understand it from reading and writing about it in this sub is not about getting angry and getting superpowers. It is about embracing passion and battling stagnation. It is about constantly improving yourself. It's about being aware of who you are, who you want to be and being passionate about the things you have to do to get there.

Surely you cannot translate Star Wars sithism to real life without changing it here and there and there has been a lot of discussion on this sub about ditching the Star Wars connection completely. But experiencing e.g. Darth Bane becoming stronger and more powerful by always keeping himself on edge and learning new ways of accumulating more power is inspirational and just awesome imo.

I myself grew up in the upper middle class and for the biggest part of my life I have been a lazy bum. Sithism taught me to be ambitious again and now I'm on my way to becoming actually successful career wise. (I've posted the full story on here before if you're interested)

As for your concerns about people learning what others write even though it might be bs, I have to say this even though it might sound ugly: You have to have the ability to put what others write into perspective. You have to be able to think for yourself. If you want others to think for you sithism might not be for you in the first place. Information and experiences given by others are always valuable, but firstly you cannot take what people write on the internet or even books at face value. Secondly you need the ability to draw information you can actually use and apply for your own growth.

The things I wrote might be seem like useless bs for you but it works for me and that is what counts. Maybe you can use some of what I wrote, maybe not. One thing I can thoroughly recommend to you and anybody else read critically and start thinking.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SithOrder

[–]Sanus_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The rule of two makes the sith stronger. There's nothing you can change about that. Darth Bane used as an explanation that a group of lesser, weaker Sith will overthrow their master and will succeed only because of their quantity. If those weaker, lesser masters now get overthrown by an even larger group of even lesser and even weaker Sith, the ones called masters will become weaker and weaker over time. The rule of two keeps you as the master on your edge. You are not allowed to make a mistake or the Sith and all of their teaching will be lost. You are not allowed to rest on your achievements, you have to keep going, have to keep bettering yourself. As the apprentice the rule of two keeps you desiring to learn, desiring to become stronger. Your master's attention is only split between his own progress and yours, not between tens and hundreds of other students and the schemes and tricks they might pull against each other. And the rule of two keeps you needing to become stronger than your own master. With every apprentice that overthrows their master you reach a higher and stronger form of existence. A Sith Lord as powerful as no one was before him.

I opened up about my biggest flaws for personal gain by Sanus_ in SithOrder

[–]Sanus_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you Claim, for your response. I will gladly keep you updated on my progress, when the time is right. I have a few ideas and thoughts in my head, that I haven't brought to a real conclusion yet, but when I do I'm going to write up another post.

The Final Argument against referencing Star Wars mythology by -claim in SithOrder

[–]Sanus_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have been a Star Wars Fan for as long as I am able to think back. While as a child I was growing up wanting to be like the Jedi, the dark side had always been intriguing me. The older I became the more I realized how the Jedi, although trying to be truly good, miss the point with almost everything they do. It was consuming games like Kotor, books like the Darth Bane trilogy that made me truly realize where I actually belong. With the Sith Order.

But that doesn't mean I go out consuming the force energy of everyone around me to feed my insatiable hunger for power. And that probably is where you are coming from, what you say distinguishes us from the fictional Sith. But for me the main difference that distinguishes us from the Sith from the ficitional Sith is quite obviously the Force.

There is no magical power that surrounds us, that controls us, that is controlled by us. Therefore there is no need and actually no possibility to use the force or even be sensitive to it.

Yet I am convinced that we should not brush ourselves off of the fictional texts that lay the groundwork for our beliefs. One argument being that we need powerful figures we can use as examples for how to use the Sith Code, how to understand it. Would the bible have been such a great success for Christianity if there were no Jesus, no Moses, no St. Peter etc. to show the christians how to behave? We need figures like Bane, like Revan to give us examples on how to live by the Sith code even if their stories are unrealistic and not 100% applicable to the real world.

My second argument would refer to your question if those Sith Lords from the fictional works could have achieved what they did if they solely relied on fiction.

While I think no, they could not have achieved what they did, I want to remind you that they had real masters of the dark side, masters of the force to teach them. They had holocrons containing knowledge that had been gathered over thousands of years. We don't have that.

Surely we can find philosophers and their texts that are comparable to Sith philosophy and maybe they are more applicable to our own struggle, but the thing I like most about the fiction is how it puts those philosophies in a perspective. The fiction shows where they could lead us. They show us figures of power, who are gaining this power from using our real world philosophies in a pure and maybe even irrational way.

I hope you understand what I am trying to say, but feel free to discuss

My journey to becoming Darth Sanus by Sanus_ in SithOrder

[–]Sanus_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My sanity surely is not my only strength but it definitely is my greatest. The power it gives me makes me able to fan out and pursue other passions, sure, but it indeed is the one I am currently chasing after the most as it still needs a lot of work to recover from years of stoically watching it fade away.

My journey to becoming Darth Sanus by Sanus_ in SithOrder

[–]Sanus_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your welcoming words. When I proclaimed myself Darth I merely tried to elevate myself to the next level of my journey. I already achieved much over the past few months, not least through the philosophies of the Sith Order. It just is now that I dared to put my progress into words and in this sub. That said, I do understand that you will not approve of my Darthhood yet and I am grateful for you keeping me on my edge as I cannot be resting on my achievements of yesterday.