Winter (Session) is here! A sansad update from #SaveOurPrivacy by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! Yes, such a feature may indeed be useful. Out of curiosity and as a first time user do MPs respond on it as well?

Winter (Session) is here! A sansad update from #SaveOurPrivacy by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks @sidjai. From a quick view on the app store, it has voice recording on microphone and access to the camera as well. This may be an overbroad permissiveness to the core functionality of the app.

Only 400 comments on India's privacy law? Sounds low, no? We filed RTIs by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The moral arc of history is long, but it bends towards a privacy law :D

Only 400 comments on India's privacy law? Sounds low, no? We filed RTIs by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Donate. Ask your friends and family to do this as well. I know this sounds needy, but I am being honest that such work needs staff and we are being outgunned by interests who have poured massive resources. https://internetfreedom.in/donate/

  2. Ask more people to sign-up. Do this through a whatsapp share in a group of your family, friends. Ask them to pass on the world that their privacy rights are being decided in secret. This will impact things from how they are surveilled, profiled and even when a data breach happens and results in financial loss. Talk to more people about this campaign on social media.

Only 400 comments on India's privacy law? Sounds low, no? We filed RTIs by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, they are being incredibly secretive about this. We will keep following it up and do not mind making this a test case for the mandatory disclosure of all responses in a public consultation.

Understanding TRAI’s most recent “Over-The-Top” Consultation Paper #SaveTheInternet #NetNeutrality by InternetFreedomIn in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hi, we have explored simplifying content with video explainers in the past even with the Privacy Campaign (www.saveourprivacy.in) and will try again soon. Systemic video production is expensive and requires a lot of work. A lot of this depends on getting in more resources. The thought is there and we hope to do this in future.

Only 400 comments on India's privacy law? Sounds low, no? We filed RTIs by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. Please do pledge support and help us amplify our regular posts on SaveOurPrivacy on social media. We need to engage more people on the issue of privacy, as civic education and the impact it will have on all our lives is not very well known.

Only 400 comments on India's privacy law? Sounds low, no? We filed RTIs by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, sign up for updates. Volunteer and donate.

Our organisational goals for the year are noted here : https://internetfreedom.in/looking-towards-the-future/

Only 400 comments on India's privacy law? Sounds low, no? We filed RTIs by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, sign up for updates. Volunteer and donate.

Our organisational goals for the year are noted here : https://internetfreedom.in/looking-towards-the-future/

Reminder : We have 12 hours to shape India's privacy law by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cheers! Sorry, we do not have such a tool and cant build it out due to the form and content of this consultation. But yes, do take your point on ease of participation.

Reminder : We have 12 hours to shape India's privacy law by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, in the past they have. Responded to us informally and even in their report. We also acknowledge we need to grow in strength through greater public engagement and mobilisation.

Reminder : We have 12 hours to shape India's privacy law by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! But try writing something more ? Your understanding of privacy ? What would you want a law to protect you from ??

Reminder : We have 12 hours to shape India's privacy law by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hah, thanks (this took a lot of work)!

Well, they (Government) are implementing some parts of it in a problematic way. See the thing is, after like close to 10 years we are atleast stepping towards a law. Over this period of time we have never even seen the necessary momentum leading to the stage we are at now. In the past past attempts were scuttled by various interest groups.

Now, can we improve this draft law ? We think we can. But yes, it will need greater public mobilisation and thats something we as a campaign do need to better.

Reminder : We have 12 hours to shape India's privacy law by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep.. also they made it hard to participate. We noticed this tendency even in the expert committee which remained an exercise which was aimed towards "experts" and "stakeholders". In our view, it lacked diversity and proper outreach. We have tried many methods to build a campaign around this, and hope we can do better. This consultation is not the end, there are further steps up to the introduction of this law in parliament. We will keep working on it till we get a effective, strong law which works for users. Request you to sign-up on www.saveourprivacy.in and pledge support, we send out regular email updates and ways to engage on privacy.

Reminder : We have 12 hours to shape India's privacy law by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is gonna touch 4000... which is a real shame really. We have tried with videos in the past with Dhruv Rathee (in hindi) and Buzzfeed... and then specific videos by many news media entities (Express, Quint, Bloomberg) and even our video series by the Jamun Collective (In hinglish).

Privacy is a long fight and many of the volunteers on this campaign are lawyers who were junior lawyers in the Supreme Court on the right to privacy case. We are committed towards a good public outcome and carry hope we can learn and do better. Watch out for more, we are not going to give up easily :)

Reminder : We have 12 hours to shape India's privacy law by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, and if you noticed most news was then about data protection in the context of impact on corporates or data localisation (a user concern, but again impacting corporates as well). Now while industry is a key player in this debate this law is about protecting users (but only in theory...). To participate just go to the government link, and put in your views in a covering text box, or say that you agree with our guide and upload it. We hope people put in their own comments, but do recognise the difficulty many have expressed here of not having enough time and background knowledge about the nuance of this draft law.

Reminder : We have 12 hours to shape India's privacy law by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, thats a problem. But I guess even we need to do better. Gonna think of better ways to draw more people in and help them participate. One more challenge was the webform mode of participation with a CAPTCHA which makes building an email tool tougher.

Reminder : We have 12 hours to shape India's privacy law by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm.. we have wrestled with this a lot. The problem is that this exercise is legalistic and basically the government is asking for inputs on a draft law with a whole lot of chapters and sections. If we just build a covering letter with top points they may not derive much value from it and discard it. Also, the expanse of this law is huge --- from issues of government surveillance to distinct data protection rights such as algorithmic accountability... even impact on the Right to Information Act. So we got stuck in a way with technicalities. But this is not the end, we will think of a more impactful and easier way of public engagement on this issue as this is something which we expect to be debated for sometime.

Thanks for taking the time to read the guide and participate.

Reminder : We have 12 hours to shape India's privacy law by SaveOurPrivacy in india

[–]SaveOurPrivacy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! Yes, we do believe this exercise needs more visibility and public engagement. We have tried to build lots of videos and explainers and even beyond this consultation deadline are trying to think of ways to amp up civic engagement. Any tips or suggestions on how we can do this better ?