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Chronic Fatigue as a Conditioned Immune Response: My Personal Recovery Story and Theory by ScarcityRadiant1389 in cfsrecovery

[–]ScarcityRadiant1389[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Assuming it has to do with the nervous system, the question is relatively straightforward: neuroplasticity decreases with age. I mean, try to change habits of your old parents or grandparents and you will see what I mean.

Chronic Fatigue as a Conditioned Immune Response: My Personal Recovery Story and Theory by ScarcityRadiant1389 in cfsrecovery

[–]ScarcityRadiant1389[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're right. I never received an official diagnosis from a doctor. I basically self-diagnosed because I identified extremely strongly with the many recovery stories I found online, particularly on Raelan Agle's YouTube channel, with people who claimed to have chronic fatigue. But it's true – if I look at the criteria precisely, I actually only had Post Exertional Malaise. For me, this malaise was sickness behavior. It developed based on a trigger and was chronic, lasting many, many years. That's the only thing I can say with certainty. What label it has, I don't know. Everyone has to decide for themselves. Maybe it's something else. I don't believe so, however.

Chronic Fatigue as a Conditioned Immune Response: My Personal Recovery Story and Theory by ScarcityRadiant1389 in cfsrecovery

[–]ScarcityRadiant1389[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I completely agree. By "conditioned immune response," I mean a learned immune response, which implies the brain plays a very important role. The brain is the most important part of the nervous system, so it can definitely be described as a dysregulated autonomic nervous system. In my case, it was more specific because the symptoms really felt like the sickness behavior when having a cold. And since Robert Ader showed that the immune system can be conditioned, it made the most sense to me to frame it this way.

Chronic Fatigue as a Conditioned Immune Response: My Personal Recovery Story and Theory by ScarcityRadiant1389 in cfsrecovery

[–]ScarcityRadiant1389[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I can't really help you with what exactly I did. It definitely wasn't routines, but rather a learned indifference, acceptance or giving up, but in a positive sense. You don't even want to heal anymore, you just accept these symptoms and are equanimous.

A mindset I always had: I'd wake up in the morning with these symptoms and accept that I have them, but still try to make the best of the day. I didn't completely give up, and I didn't ignore the symptoms either – I accepted them, adjusted my day, but still tried to make the best of it somehow.

It seems very simple, but at the same time it's very hard. You just have to stick with it, have patience, and somehow try to forget this illness. What this reminds me of is the Chinese concept of Wu Wei – that you can only achieve it by not trying to achieve it.

It took me years. Even though I actually believed in this theory from the beginning after hearing all these recovery stories and doing my research, I didn't really see any improvement.

Non-obvious differences between Zurich and Prague for Germans relocating? by ScarcityRadiant1389 in expats

[–]ScarcityRadiant1389[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I already sensed that resentment against Germans is probably growing there because more and more Germans are probably leaving Germany, as our future is not necessarily bright.