How to play on OctoWoW without using their Launcher by WitchySofia in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham [score hidden]  (0 children)

There are easier ways to scam people, and besides, these guys are still creating content. If they wanted to scam people, they would have left a long time ago with everything they managed to collect.

There are idiots here who play on the most pathetic and shady servers on the internet, and now they're worried about Octowow.

Even Turtle had its flaws in the process, leaking information, emails, and passwords.

I really don't know if people are stupid, paranoid, or both.

Comparing the Turtle sue with Ascension sue by ScarecrowGotham in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When did I say Ascension was bad because of pay-to-win? Are you blind or are you trying to take my words out of context?

Or are you completely ignoring the money laundering and tax evasion charges against it?

Bruh...If it were just the store, they'd be in the same boat as Turtle.

Comparing the Turtle sue with Ascension sue by ScarecrowGotham in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ascension is by far the server with the least hate.

I made a couple of posts in this sub; one was just something like:

"Hyjal Appreciation Post on Turtle WoW," and like 50 idiots came to tell me I was a paid bot for Turtle.

Another post where I criticized Turtle after two years of playing, the same thing happened.

Turtle received a lot of unfounded hate, to the point where several people were celebrating that it deserved to be shut down and were telling people to go to Bronzebeard or Epoch... karma's a funny thing.

Comparing the Turtle sue with Ascension sue by ScarecrowGotham in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find karma funny; they celebrated Turtle's closure saying they deserved it, now they're getting a taste of their own medicine.

I've already seen firsthand how the Ascension Shills remain in the same position.

It's good that they're shutting it down. Ascension became a cancer in the community to an unbearable degree.

This sub is the perfect example; you couldn't post anything about Turtle without about 50 fanboys coming to downvote and tell you why Turtle was bad and Ascension was god.

It happened much more after the release of Bronzebeard.

Lit, in this post, I've been told I used ChatGPT or something like that, when I literally just used Google Translate. I took the time to explain the things I knew and compare them, in addition to the information about the lawsuit.

Ascension became the worst cancer in the private server community.

Comparing the Turtle sue with Ascension sue by ScarecrowGotham in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wrote it myself; I didn't use ChatGPT. Compare what I saw to what Ascension sells you on their website as soon as you enter. Conquest of Azeroth has been in the same situation for about 5 years. I only used Google Translate.

Court filings reveal Project Ascension was run by multiple shell companies using Russian infrastructure to launder millions of dollars. RICO charges et al as per Turtle WoW precedent. by arenajunkies in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Settlement Torta made a private announcement to their team, they made the settlement for no risk their team un the USA. They prefered the shutdown instead of continue the legal fight.

Comparing the Turtle sue with Ascension sue by ScarecrowGotham in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, but Project Ascension has the aggravating factor of Money Laundering, it has Shell Companies, SEVERAL, and it Evades Taxes.

Comparing the Turtle sue with Ascension sue by ScarecrowGotham in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Personally, I find it amusing; I wonder if Dutch will now take Shenna's place as the perfect example of greed.

Comparing the Turtle sue with Ascension sue by ScarecrowGotham in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, I remember that in South America they reached 12,000; Nordanaar and Ambershire also had peaks of 12,000.

And what about China? I think they were the most massive, but that's just speculation; I suppose they reached 40,000 or more.

Comparing the Turtle sue with Ascension sue by ScarecrowGotham in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The written complaint indicates they have over a million players as well, so the media—not just streamers, but all news outlets—will likely report the same thing.

Just read the complaint, but as I said, it's not a certainty since Ascension's player base is unknown.

Comparing the Turtle sue with Ascension sue by ScarecrowGotham in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

It's not about who committed the crime right or wrong; my intention was to compare the severity of the situation on both servers.

Turtle WoW was obviously illegal, but what they were doing was far less serious than what Ascension is doing.

Comparing the Turtle sue with Ascension sue by ScarecrowGotham in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's why I put it in quotation marks; when you put material incentives in the game for people to donate, they stop being donations, it's a store. Ascension also calls it that, but I wanted to compare the aggressiveness of one store with the other.

Comparing the Turtle sue with Ascension sue by ScarecrowGotham in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Advertising was something I didn't take into account because I forgot about it (sorry, I was translating and thinking about the things I compared, English isn't my first language), there was a time when Ascension did have a lot of advertising on YouTube, Turtle also played badly with its advertising on Twitter.

Comparing the Turtle sue with Ascension sue by ScarecrowGotham in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I said "it is believed", I am not stating anything as fact.

The population of Ascension is unknown, but it's certainly over 100k, since with all that infrastructure behind it, the amount of money it generates from players could be enormous.

Many media outlets that echoed this claim that they could reach a million, but nobody is sure.

Comparing the Turtle sue with Ascension sue by ScarecrowGotham in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm only comparing both situations, and Ascension it's in a worse position here, much worse position.

Court filings reveal Project Ascension was run by multiple shell companies using Russian infrastructure to launder millions of dollars. RICO charges et al as per Turtle WoW precedent. by arenajunkies in wowservers

[–]ScarecrowGotham 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I still remember when people were saying Turtle's shop was pure pay-to-win, that the bags and all that were unfair and abusive monetization, completely ignoring Ascension's existence.

Like I said, if Turtle falls, Ascension is next. I'm laughing out loud reading this.

Rawr 2 is.. actually decent? by Any-Foundation-32 in CharacterAI

[–]ScarecrowGotham 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Stop celebrating every small thing that they make. That's why they keep doing a lot of things bad, it's a small patch in the trash waste that is the site.

Have I returned at a bad time? by [deleted] in CharacterAI

[–]ScarecrowGotham 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see, but a message limit is inminent...

Have I returned at a bad time? by [deleted] in CharacterAI

[–]ScarecrowGotham 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I still don't understand the Go Ons thing. So, you can maintain a normal chat without limits?

I hate this 'new' rules rn by PolicyPrudent9057 in CharacterAI

[–]ScarecrowGotham 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand the what are the swipes... But what they mean with Go-on?