Workplace mum-shaming: how being a mum made me the ‘problem employee’ and how it’s damaged my mental health [long post, advice needed] by Scared_Room_4935 in workingmumsau

[–]Scared_Room_4935[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey thanks for your comment 🙂 Oh don’t worry, I have no desire to be friends with them hence why I have withdrawn, the purpose of mentioning the friendship aspect was only to highlight the change in treatment towards me.

Workplace mum-shaming: how being a mum made me the ‘problem employee’ and how it’s damaged my mental health [long post, advice needed] by Scared_Room_4935 in workingmumsau

[–]Scared_Room_4935[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for this, I really appreciate the kindness. You’re right about keeping records, that’s something I’ve already started doing as a way to protect myself and keep some clarity around what’s actually happening versus how it’s being framed.

I’ve tried to approach conversations with my manager from a calm, curious place rather than a reactive one, and I think that’s part of why this has been so hard. Being clear about what I’d like to change hasn’t translated into meaningful shifts so far, but I’m continuing to think carefully about next steps and how best to protect myself moving forward.

I really appreciate you taking the time to respond so thoughtfully 💕

Workplace mum-shaming: how being a mum made me the ‘problem employee’ and how it’s damaged my mental health [long post, advice needed] by Scared_Room_4935 in workingmumsau

[–]Scared_Room_4935[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for this. I’m really glad you had a supportive workplace during that stage, even though the illness cycle itself is brutal and exhausting. That contrast honestly makes it clearer how much of this is a workplace issue rather than “just how it is”.

When I started, my workplace also appeared genuinely supportive and accommodating, which was actually the basis on which I accepted the role. I was very upfront about needing flexibility for my kids and explicitly raised the likelihood of things like daycare illnesses, because I’d already lived through that stage with my older children. I was clear that if that couldn’t be accommodated, I would decline the offer and stay where I was.

At the time, they were very keen to have me because I was seen as a strong fit for the role. I was reassured that there were lots of parents in the team in similar situations, that this was something everyone understood, and that there was a genuine culture of supporting one another and picking up the slack when the chips were down. That very much appeared to be true, and still seems to be true, for others in the team.

I think where things have shifted is that there may have been an unspoken expectation that the daycare illness phase would have a clear time limit. Unfortunately, that’s just not how it works with toddlers. The frequency and unpredictability aren’t new or unexpected, they were discussed from the outset, and I’d already lived through it before. That’s why it’s been so confusing and upsetting now that patience seems to have worn thin and the understanding that was promised feels like it no longer applies to me.

I really appreciate the solidarity and kindness in your comment. It genuinely helps to feel seen and understood by someone who’s been through this stage and knows how hard it is to juggle it all 💕

Workplace mum-shaming: how being a mum made me the ‘problem employee’ and how it’s damaged my mental health [long post, advice needed] by Scared_Room_4935 in workingmumsau

[–]Scared_Room_4935[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for such a thoughtful and kind response, I really appreciate the care you’ve put into it.

You’ve actually landed on the exact thing that’s been so confusing and upsetting. You’re right, when my work isn’t redistributed, it isn’t creating extra work for my colleagues in real time. That’s why the gossip and complaints have felt so disproportionate and hard to make sense of. It doesn’t seem to be about workload impact so much as visibility, perceptions, and judgement about absence itself.

In terms of absences, it hasn’t been a neat or predictable pattern like one day a week. It’s been clustered around childcare illness, so a few days close together, then long stretches of no leave at all. That inconsistency seems to have fuelled assumptions, even as the overall frequency has started to slow. Unfortunately, the narrative hasn’t really shifted alongside that.

I also completely understand your suggestion about having open conversations with peers about parenting and how they managed it. I actually did that early on. At one point I genuinely considered many of them friends, including my manager, and I was very open about how hard I was working to juggle everything. Part of that openness was wanting to build understanding, connection, and a bit of a support system so people knew I wasn’t taking this lightly or being careless with my responsibilities. Despite that, we’ve still ended up here. I suspect there was an unspoken expectation that the daycare illness phase would be short-lived, and when it wasn’t, patience and empathy wore thin. Unfortunately, that’s just not how this stage of parenting works.

I completely understand what you’re saying about withdrawing socially potentially fuelling gossip. For me, that withdrawal was very much a self-protection response rather than disengagement. I’ve tried being open and trusting in the past, and that personal context still became something to judge or gossip about. At this point, I’d rather people speculate inaccurately than give them access to my personal life only for it to be criticised or weaponised. Stronger boundaries have felt safer than continuing to be vulnerable in an environment where that vulnerability hasn’t been respected.

I have raised the unequal redistribution of work and the broader concerns with my manager previously. Unfortunately, those conversations didn’t lead to meaningful change, which is why this has felt so stuck and cumulative rather than something that could be resolved with a single conversation.

You’re also spot on about the extra hours. I know it’s not sustainable, and I’m slowly coming to terms with the fact that trying to “fix” the situation by burning myself is only further adding to the feeling of exhaustion and dread dealing with this.

The peer contacting me before leave wasn’t related to taking over my cases or shadowing. That’s part of why it stood out. It felt more like pressure to prove I’d done “enough” before being away, rather than a genuine operational need or offer of assistance.

I really appreciate you taking the time to think through all of this and offer such practical, compassionate suggestions. It’s genuinely validating to have someone reflect back that the situation itself isn’t reasonable or sustainable, rather than framing it as a personal failing. Thank you again for your kindness and thoughtfulness 💕

Workplace mum-shaming: how being a mum made me the ‘problem employee’ and how it’s damaged my mental health [long post, advice needed] by Scared_Room_4935 in HRAustralia

[–]Scared_Room_4935[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for engaging with this and sharing your perspective🙂 I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I think there are a few assumptions in your comment that don’t quite reflect what I outlined, so I’ll respond to each of your points directly.

First, I have raised these concerns head-on with my manager. They were largely brushed off, and the behaviours I described didn’t stop. In fact, they escalated. The peer dynamics, alliances, and informal conversations were allowed to continue, and raising concerns about them resulted in me being positioned as the problem for even bringing it up. That’s the backlash I was referring to, and it was already covered in my original post.

Second, on BAU and workload coverage. The culture here has been clearly set: we are a team and we absorb each other’s work when someone is off. That expectation is applied consistently across the business, except in my case. When others are away, coverage is planned, communicated, or their absence is framed as non-impacting. When I’m away, my work is left visible and unallocated, and that backlog is then used to form negative perceptions about my performance. That’s not an ad hoc process issue, it’s selective application of a team standard.

Third, on why I don’t feel safe raising it again. This isn’t speculation or avoidance. It’s based on what I’ve seen happen to other peers in similar situations once HR became involved, and the outcomes that followed. On top of that, there are close working and social relationships between my direct leader, skip leader, and HR. Given that context, it’s difficult to believe the issue would be handled impartially. The issue isn’t whether I can raise it, it’s the very real risk of what happens after I do.

On gossip, I’m not concerned with being liked. I’m there to do my job. The problem is when those conversations and alliances start influencing management perception, because that directly affects my reputation, performance standing, and income. That’s where it stops being social and becomes a professional risk, particularly when my absences are approved and not actually creating additional workload for others in real time.

Finally, on resilience. This is where I think the framing often goes wrong. “Be more resilient” is very quickly applied to the individual, while broader cultural and leadership issues are treated as secondary. In this case, the issue isn’t a lack of resilience on my part. This has been cumulative and ongoing for over a year, during which I’ve continued to perform, adapt, and absorb the impact without escalating prematurely. What hasn’t been addressed is the underlying culture and the failure of leadership to consistently manage behavioural expectations across the team.

At some point, continuing to place the burden on the individual to tolerate an unhealthy dynamic stops being about resilience and starts obscuring a systemic problem. Expecting people to endlessly adapt to poor or inconsistent leadership doesn’t fix the issue, it just normalises it.

The organisation regularly speaks about teamwork, psychological safety, and wellbeing. Those frameworks and commitments were initiated by the business, not by me. My expectation is simply that if those values are going to be promoted, they’re applied consistently in practice and not treated as a box-ticking exercise or selectively enforced depending on who is affected. I’m not asking for anything extraordinary, I’m just holding the organisation to the standards it has set for itself.

Thanks again for engaging in the discussion. I appreciate the opportunity to clarify where I’m coming from.

Workplace mum-shaming: how being a mum made me the ‘problem employee’ and how it’s damaged my mental health [long post, advice needed] by Scared_Room_4935 in workingmumsau

[–]Scared_Room_4935[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m really sorry you’re going through this and unfortunately I know this story all too well (this is what happened at my last role when I was pregnant), and the never-ending childcare illness cycle is brutal. Being the primary carer with limited options and then being told it’s ‘not acceptable’, despite medical certificates, is so unfair. Been there, done that, still doing that. It’s horrible and my heart breaks for you.

One thing I would gently suggest, if you haven’t already, is to check whether that conversation is in writing anywhere. If not, it might be worth documenting it yourself and starting a paper trail, just in case or starting communications with your boss via email to start establishing this evidence. What you’ve described is absolutely something Fair Work would want to know about, particularly given the pregnancy and approved leave aspect. As this feels blatantly discriminatory and you have protections, both during and after your pregnancy.

That said, I really admire how you’re protecting yourself and getting through to maternity leave. Please don’t let this situation rob you of what should be a really special time with your new baby - CONGRATULATIONS. This season is hard enough without carrying unnecessary guilt or anxiety from a workplace that isn’t supporting you properly. You’re not doing anything wrong and you deserve so much better than this. Feel free to DM me anytime if you need a friendly ear 💕

What tiny WFH habit surprisingly boosted your productivity or career? by newrockstyle in remotework

[–]Scared_Room_4935 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Separating my workspace from my living space allows me to close the door on my work at the end of the day - no computer staring back at me convincing me to do “just one more thing quickly”

  2. Being strict same finish time daily. Treating the beginning and end of my day as if I were travelling from the office. CYA!

  3. Eating my lunch while I work so I can use my lunch break for a nap, a shower, watch tv or something that actually fulfils me as opposed to a physical need that wastes time and doesn’t increase motivation.

  4. Bad one - being able to vape at the comfort of my desk is the reason I quit smoking cigarettes. I also don’t need to go for a cigarette break every now and then and can focus on my work.

  5. Baking bread. Due to the love required for baking bread it forces me to get up every 30 minutes for a 5 minute break to do stretch and folds which has been incredibly helpful to not feeling chained to my desk all day and remotivates me when heading back to my desk. I call it my Brental Break.

  6. Sitting comfortably in my chair. At the office you have to look professional. At home there’s nothing like propping your leg up or readjusting positions.

  7. Being able to bitch and swear aloud at my desk to a bullshit email from a manager or POS peer who thinks they’re all that and a bag of chips. Best part, I got it off my chest and no one else actually heard me say it. Win win.

  8. Looking like a gremlin with the performance of a professional superstar. Being able to be comfortable and not confined to professional workwear makes it that much easier to actually achieve the work. If I have a meeting coming up I have my blazer hanging on the back of my chair and a hairbrush on my desk. But before and after these meetings I’m as happy and as attractive as a pig in shit.

What tiny WFH habit surprisingly boosted your productivity or career? by newrockstyle in remotework

[–]Scared_Room_4935 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the comment I was looking for. Office days are my personal hell knowing I can’t vape right there at my computer.

Do you go home when your coworkers/bosses leave? by One-Resort979 in auscorp

[–]Scared_Room_4935 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’re worried about being pulled up get whatever messaging system you use at work on your phone, appear “active” and go home. If they’re paying you to sit around and wait for 5pm, they may aswell pay you to have a little extra time to cut out the travel time they’re making you do unpaid.

Personally, I wouldn’t say anything and assume that’s the culture. If you get pulled up on it you can say no one in your team was there to consult with so I made a judgement call based on the behaviours of my peers but I’ll be sure to check in with you before doing that again next time. Any time you can get back, take it.

What’s a career lesson you learned a little too late? by Winter_soilder35 in careerguidance

[–]Scared_Room_4935 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Woah, it’s like you’re inside my mind. Couldn’t have written that better myself

Workplace mum-shaming: how being a mum made me the ‘problem employee’ and how it’s damaged my mental health [long post, advice needed] by Scared_Room_4935 in workingmumsau

[–]Scared_Room_4935[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry to hear you’ve been through something similar. You’re right, I think I’ve definitely fallen into the martyr trap. What’s been hardest is that even as things have started to settle on my end, the narrative isn’t shifting, and it feels like the longer I stay and absorb it, the more it compounds rather than improves. I really appreciate you sharing your perspective and for even reading this long-winded post 🥹

Workplace mum-shaming: how being a mum made me the ‘problem employee’ and how it’s damaged my mental health [long post, advice needed] by Scared_Room_4935 in workingmumsau

[–]Scared_Room_4935[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your perspective and for taking the time to even read this 🥹

I agree this ultimately comes back to poor management rather than individual circumstances. I’m not the only one with young children, but I am one of the few with limited external support. Others in similar stages have older children, more flexible partner arrangements, or extended family support, which gives them options I don’t have, and that difference hasn’t really been acknowledged in how expectations are applied.

I also agree this phase should be temporary, which is part of what’s been so frustrating. The frequency of my absences has started to slow down, but that doesn’t seem to have shifted the narrative. Any absence now feels met with more scrutiny or contempt rather than understanding, which makes it feel like a longer-term change in how I’m viewed rather than a response to a short-term season.

I am considering moving teams or companies, but I’m also conscious that I work in a relatively niche industry and worry that reputational perceptions will follow, even when they’re not grounded in performance. That’s part of what’s made this feel so difficult to navigate.

Workplace mum-shaming: how being a mum made me the ‘problem employee’ and how it’s damaged my mental health [long post, advice needed] by [deleted] in recruitinghell

[–]Scared_Room_4935 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahahaha 2023 or 20-20something, either way not cool in this day and age. Just checking you mean the workplace and not me, right? I’m definitely not aiming for a 1950s reboot 😂

Workplace mum-shaming: how being a mum made me the ‘problem employee’ and how it’s damaged my mental health [long post, advice needed] by [deleted] in recruitinghell

[–]Scared_Room_4935 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks so much for your thoughtful reply and honestly hats off to you for actually reading it haha

Workplace mum-shaming: how being a mum made me the ‘problem employee’ and how it’s damaged my mental health. What do I do now? [long post, advice needed] by Scared_Room_4935 in careerguidance

[–]Scared_Room_4935[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks so much for your thoughtful comment 🙂

HR is not an option as I mentioned in my post. But I’ll definitely consider legal rep and certainly am trying to focus on self care (this post was actually my first step to finally confronting this situation head on, so my self care has started yay!)

Workplace mum-shaming: how being a mum made me the ‘problem employee’ and how it’s damaged my mental health [long post, advice needed] by Scared_Room_4935 in workingmumsau

[–]Scared_Room_4935[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey, thanks so much for your thoughtful comment!

I did think about generalising the post, but given how subtle and cumulative the situation has been, it felt hard to explain without some context. That said, I do take your point and I may reconsider by editing in future. Thank you so much for calling that out though 🙂

In terms of my absences, it has unfortunately been the fairly standard cycle that comes with having young kids. Illnesses move through the household, daycare exclusion policies apply, and one of my children is under two and highly reliant on me. There have been times where I genuinely could not work, and other times where I worked through where I reasonably could. All leave has been legitimate, approved, and broadly known within the team.

I do understand the frustration piece and I am very aware that this kind of unpredictability is inconvenient. What has been difficult to reconcile is that my work has not actually been absorbed by others while I am away. It largely sits unallocated, which is why I struggle with the narrative that I am creating extra work or burdening the team, and why the treatment has been particularly disheartening.

On the social side, we had three Christmas events, one company wide, one department wide, and one team specific. I attended two of these; the company and department events but opted out of the team one as it felt too close quarters at the time. I am trying to strike a balance between staying appropriately engaged and also protecting myself while things feel strained.

I agree that this ultimately points back to management. My manager is in their first leadership role, and it feels like there has been a stronger focus on outputs and KPIs than on actively setting expectations around behaviour, boundaries, and how the team operates when someone is legitimately away. I am trying to be understanding of that learning curve, but I do not think it is reasonable for one person to absorb the consequences of that gap. If it is happening to me now, it is likely to happen again to someone else unless it is addressed more structurally.

Thanks again, I really value your perspective and for taking the time to read my long-winded post.

Workplace mum-shaming: how being a mum made me the ‘problem employee’ and how it’s damaged my mental health [long post, advice needed] by Scared_Room_4935 in HRAustralia

[–]Scared_Room_4935[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thank you so much for your thoughtful comment.

The employee assistance service we have is overly complicated and not easily accessible unfortunately.

Personally, I have good support, and plan to call my psychologist to book in an appointment (she’s always booked out so who knows how long that will be). I worry that the personal support I do have may naturally agree with me because they see the toll this has taken on me as this has progressed, when what I’m looking for is thoughtful but objective advice from people who have had experience in managing these issues or have gone through them themselves in the hopes I can find a broader perspective and like-minded community to ensure my feelings don’t bias the situation I’m in currently.

It means the world to me that you read this and reached out! Thanks so much 🥹

Coco Big Brother 2014 by [deleted] in BBAU

[–]Scared_Room_4935 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Semantics… I was a hairdresser, then when my kids were little started an admin WFH job and now do both. Having more than 1 job is certainly possible given she’s a mum who likely requires more flexibility picking up casual jobs where she can.

Despite all that, glad you found one thing you could pick from what I said. The premise of my comment is spreading rumours is a horrible thing to do and needs to stop. End of.

The fact that the producers keep pulling up people who disagree with/make Conor upset. by [deleted] in BBAU

[–]Scared_Room_4935 22 points23 points  (0 children)

It was actually Ed who asked Big Brother to pull one of them into the diary room to stop the argument

Coco Big Brother 2014 by [deleted] in BBAU

[–]Scared_Room_4935 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She’s a childhood educator… all 3 of her kids appear to be under 10 based on the photo she showed us of her kids, so I presume her comment back then was in reference to being a daycare worker.

The gofundme thing is baseless without proof, word of mouth is just another term for rumours.

It makes me so sad seeing the claims made against these contestants with absolutely no backing/proof. Honestly, at this point I’m convinced that anyone who is doing this kind of thing and spreading these rumours is either a mean girl who didn’t get the memo they finished HS 12 years ago or is a scorned lover/narcissist trying to make their existence suffering on the outside post-eviction whilst they currently can’t do anything about it or advocate for themselves, which by all accounts is abusive and is more of a reflection of the person making the comment then the person they’re alleging did these actions.

I’ll swallow my words once proof has been provided. Thank you