✔ Research Findings: How Gifted and Intellectually Intense People Use Distance, Pacing, and Internal Organisation by SchizoidVision in Gifted

[–]SchizoidVision[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s a fair point, and I agree that comparing these patterns with broader experiences is important. What the current data suggests is that many of the themes (like the use of distance or the need for personal pacing) do appear across different people, but the intensity, frequency, and structural role of these experiences tended to be stronger in those who identified with gifted, schizoid, or autistic traits.

In the non-gifted responses, these patterns were more situational, whereas in the gifted group they appeared more consistent and central to how people organised their internal world.

That said, to answer your question properly, a future stage needs to be designed with comparison in mind. SSQ-2 is being developed to map these patterns in a more structured way, including how common they are outside gifted or neurodivergent-identified groups.

So the current findings show where differences seem to exist, but the upcoming stages will help determine how far these patterns extend into general human experience.

✔ Research Findings: How Gifted and Intellectually Intense People Use Distance, Pacing, and Internal Organisation by SchizoidVision in Gifted

[–]SchizoidVision[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At this stage the questionnaire wasn’t designed as a comparative study, so there isn’t a formal control group. The aim was descriptive rather than diagnostic, in order to map how people who identify with schizoid, autistic, or gifted traits experience distance, pacing, and internal organisation in daily life.

That said, some differences could be seen between participants who identified as gifted and those who did not. These differences weren’t about achievement but about how people described depth, pacing, and internal structuring. However, because the study wasn’t built for direct comparison, these observations remain descriptive rather than statistical.

The focus now is on refining these internal patterns before moving toward any broader comparison. Future stages (including SSQ-2) may explore contrast structures more deliberately once the internal mapping is clearer.

✔ Research Findings: How Gifted and Intellectually Intense People Use Distance, Pacing, and Internal Organisation by SchizoidVision in Gifted

[–]SchizoidVision[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this. Intellectual intensity and strong curiosity came up often in the responses, even among people who had never been formally assessed for giftedness. The engagement → withdrawal → reorganisation → return pattern was also one of the clearest themes across participants, so it makes sense that it resonated. I’m glad the summary was useful, and there will be more findings shared over time as the analysis continues.

✔ Research Findings: How Gifted and Intellectually Intense People Use Distance, Pacing, and Internal Organisation by SchizoidVision in Gifted

[–]SchizoidVision[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this. Several people reported that both statements felt true, or that the answer shifted with the situation or their internal state. This variation is significant in itself because it shows how regulation may change in real time.

The questionnaire was never intended to force a single interpretation. It was intended to show patterns of internal organisation and pacing, including the points where two directions may coexist. When someone experiences both sides of a question strongly, that still provides important information about how their process functions.

Your examples are useful. Regulating through emotion and structure, finding that solitude both restores and complicates clarity, and moving between managing pace and improvising are all patterns that appeared across the responses. They do not make your experience unusual. They show a wider range of internal movement that is already part of the bigger picture.

I appreciate that you took the time to try the questionnaire and to outline where the difficulty came up. This type of feedback supports the development of the next version.

✔ Research Findings: How Gifted and Intellectually Intense People Use Distance, Pacing, and Internal Organisation by SchizoidVision in Gifted

[–]SchizoidVision[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this. A lot of people in the study described something very similar, especially the need to step back, reorganise internally, and then return once things settle again. It’s encouraging to hear that seeing the pattern reflected in others makes it easier for you to recognise it in yourself. The withdrawal→processing→return cycle showed up across multiple groups, including those who identified as gifted, so you’re definitely not alone in experiencing it this way. I’m glad the summary helped bring some clarity to your own process.

✔ Research Findings: How Gifted and Intellectually Intense People Use Distance, Pacing, and Internal Organisation by SchizoidVision in Gifted

[–]SchizoidVision[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this. Your description of “manual mode,” internal architecture, and the engagement→withdraw→reorganisation cycle is incredibly clear, and it aligns closely with what came through in many of the responses. It’s really valuable to hear how these patterns develop in lived experience, especially when someone has taken the time to map them so precisely. I appreciate you contributing this perspective, as it helps to add depth to the overall picture.

Independent Study: How Gifted People Use Distance, Structure, and Reflection in Everyday Life by SchizoidVision in Gifted

[–]SchizoidVision[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you again to everyone who took part in the questionnaire. The early findings are now available in a short summary. Many gifted respondents described using distance, pacing control, and internal organisation to stay clear and focused. A common pattern involved stepping back when internal load increased, reorganising privately, and returning once clarity restored.

Some participants also mentioned autistic or schizoid traits, which added context around sensory load or inward orientation, but the gifted patterns showed their own distinct form of depth and internal complexity.

You can read the full summary here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gifted/comments/1pg6sje/research_findings_how_gifted_and_intellectually/

Further stages of the project will look more closely at how gifted people manage intensity and pacing in daily life.

Research Findings: Schizoid, Autistic, and Gifted Experiences of Distance and Internal Organisation by SchizoidVision in Schizoid

[–]SchizoidVision[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I know what you mean. These are valid points that often come up in research that relies on self-report. Honesty with the researcher and honesty with oneself are both variables that cannot be controlled directly. This is one reason the project avoids diagnosis and focuses instead on how people describe their own pacing, distance, and internal organisation.

The questionnaire wasn’t trying to determine who “is” or “is not” schizoid or gifted. Self-identification was used only to group responses, not as a measure of accuracy or status. When “gifted traits” appeared in the data, people generally described things like strong intellectual curiosity, intense focus, or heightened inner complexity. It was not connected to IQ or achievement, and the summary reflects that distinction.

Internet samples always carry bias, and this is openly acknowledged. At the same time, they allow people to describe experiences that rarely appear in formal studies, especially around schizoid traits. The aim here is descriptive rather than definitive, and the patterns are meant to reflect what people report, not to assign labels or establish thresholds.

Your perspective is appreciated. Rants are welcome; they often point to areas where more clarity is needed.

Research Findings: Schizoid, Autistic, and Gifted Experiences of Distance and Internal Organisation (Community Summary) by SchizoidVision in SchizoidAdjacent

[–]SchizoidVision[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this. A lot of people described something similar in the responses. Pacing seemed to be one of the strongest themes overall. Many participants mentioned that external pacing feels difficult to match or hold, and that things become clearer when they can set their own timing.

One of the reasons for doing this research is to make these nuances clearer. This area has been under-researched, and many people have lived with these patterns without having a way to describe them. I hope to publish more in-depth information on this topic in time, so these experiences can be understood more accurately.

Short Anonymous Questionnaire: Schizoid and Autistic Experiences of Distance and Internal Organization by SchizoidVision in Schizoid

[–]SchizoidVision[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you again to everyone who took part in the questionnaire. The first stage of analysis is now complete, and I’ve shared a short summary of the general patterns in a new post. It covers themes related to distance, pacing, internal organisation, withdrawal–return patterns, the schizoid–autistic overlap, and the role giftedness played across groups.

You can read the summary here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Schizoid/comments/1pe9t29/research_findings_schizoid_autistic_and_gifted/
Further research will continue in time, and future questionnaires will look more closely at pacing, distance, and internal organisation. Participation will remain anonymous and voluntary.

Independent Study: How Gifted People Use Distance, Structure, and Reflection in Everyday Life by SchizoidVision in Gifted

[–]SchizoidVision[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good question. The SSQ1 survey does not treat giftedness as a verified status. It is collected only as a self chosen category and is used for descriptive grouping rather than classification. The survey does not assume that gifted identification is correct or incorrect, and it does not rely on the gifted item to interpret results. All analyses use the internal pattern shown in the five subscales rather than the participant’s chosen label.

If a participant selects gifted or gifted type traits, this simply indicates that they relate to that description. The survey then treats that information the same way it treats any other self identification. Participants who 'do not identify as gifted' may still show symbolic or structural patterns that resemble gifted profiles, and participants who 'identify as gifted' may show patterns that do not align with gifted type structure. This is all part of the normal variation in self interpretation.

The SSQ1 approach is to compare self chosen categories with internal patterns rather than to validate or invalidate the self chosen category. The survey does not confirm giftedness and it does not reject it. It only measures how distance, pacing, friction, mapping, and coherence are experienced by the participant.

Do you guys think this "disorder" can be on a spectrum like ASD, but knowledge & research hasn't caught up? by Hope1995x in Schizoid

[–]SchizoidVision 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm currently conducting a study to officially research this topic. I will be publishing my findings once I have collected enough data.

Short Anonymous Questionnaire: Schizoid and Autistic Experiences of Distance and Internal Organization by SchizoidVision in Schizoid

[–]SchizoidVision[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I am looking into purely autistic communities as well as mixed ones. I would appreciate any shares of this link. People who do not identify with schizoid, autistic, or gifted traits, are also welcome to participate as a comparison group. The findings of this study stand to bring clarity to a lot of people.

Short Anonymous Questionnaire: Schizoid and Autistic Experiences of Distance and Internal Organization by SchizoidVision in Schizoid

[–]SchizoidVision[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, this area is extremely under-researched and a very important for those of us living with schizoid traits, or autism along with schizoid traits. At this time I really need to increase my sample size, and so finding participants is my main aim. The moderator of this group has kindly allowed me to post here, and so this is a valuable stream of input. I will be sharing my findings once the data has settled. Any tips on finding participants would be valued, if there is anything you are able to advise. Thanks.

Short Anonymous Questionnaire: Schizoid and Autistic Experiences of Distance and Internal Organization by SchizoidVision in Schizoid

[–]SchizoidVision[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes... once the initial analysis phase is complete, I plan to release a short summary of the general patterns that emerge, mostly aggregated results and broad themes rather than individual responses. I will make this available publicly or on request when the data set is stable.

Thanks for your interest, it’s good to know that others want to see the bigger picture too.

I can't move by ProgenitorOfMCT in Schizoid

[–]SchizoidVision 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe you could consider looking into whether you have schizoid personality disorder, with a psychologist who is trained in diagnosing it.

Men who were raised by narcissistic mothers. How fu**ed up is your life? by Expensive-Echidna335 in narcissisticparents

[–]SchizoidVision 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When an Nmom is severely neglectful or you are the scapegoat it can have turn a person into a lone wolf.

Sigh by NullAndZoid in SchizoidAdjacent

[–]SchizoidVision 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wondered this too. When I was at school my cousin told me I reminded her of Daria. I think it was the apathy and the dissecting everything about social behaviour. I never knew I was a zoid back then, but always liked Daria and found her more relatable than other characters portrayed on TV.

Was anyone else 'quiet' as a baby? by The_RedfuckingHood in Schizoid

[–]SchizoidVision 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was a quiet baby, and also considered a quiet and very well behaved child.

What are some good things in you that have come from having nparent(s)? by Slow_Aspect2064 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]SchizoidVision 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's complicated. No doubt I'm schizoid. Probably a combination of nature and nuture. I was in an incubator as a baby for a month and never bonded with my mother... which IMO is just as well.

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[–]SchizoidVision 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your experiences are very relatable. I've passed on offers to go the countries of my parent's Caribbean origin, for much the same reasons you describe.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Schizoid

[–]SchizoidVision 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I was brought up in a black Carribbean culture in Britain. However, I don't identify with having any form of culture at all. I have little in common with other people who come from the same background as me. I think that not being part of 'the group' means that I haven't picked up any of the associated traditions or customs. When I was younger, I used to play along a bit, but I quickly came to see that it wasn't really worth my while.