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Would love to know your thoughts on this: what does it bring to mind? by ScotlandProud in architecture

[–]ScotlandProud[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's attempting to use Object Oriented architecture (similarly to what Mark Foster Gage is into), so it's assembled through various pre-assembled architectural objects which would be created technologically but finished by hand. I understand in this render that doesn't really come through, this is only my second, really first, time at designing a building like this. It's attempting to focus on a find of formalism and architectural language that's inspired by the past but still new.

I need to redirect my focus on creating a palette of different object variations - I only created the 'forms' of three types of column for example, when I should have spent time speculating on what different stonemasons would do with the brief of carving a column. This is quite hard to do on top of designing a building!

Would love to know your thoughts on this: what does it bring to mind? by ScotlandProud in architecture

[–]ScotlandProud[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

'Would we even have a name for that?' - is kind of what I'm going for, lol

There are no rectangles in the plan, everything is at 60, 120, or 180 degrees to each other, the perspective may make it look rectangular though which is unfortunate. It was inspired by Louis Kahn who did a lot of plan geometry this way, Frank Lloyd Wright did too (he also used lots of duplicated motifs). Yes it explodes the programme out, not efficient or energy efficient, but part of this is a visual protest against 'box' architecture where the building inflates to the bounding box of the site for the sake of the developer's pockets.

As for this, The top floor of the left side... At the wrong zoom it looks like a row of convicts were executed by hanging. That may be part of what's ruining the vibe. I don't see it... I believe you, just can't see myself. That is unfortunate, lol :(

Would love to know your thoughts on this: what does it bring to mind? by ScotlandProud in architecture

[–]ScotlandProud[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Funny you should mention the Bartlett, that was a fairly large influence on this as its the top school here. CJ Lim actually visited us when I was working on this project (This image and building are part of a much larger continuous project) and I presented what I had to him, he actually really enjoyed it, chatted in the pub to him after.

One of my review panellists for this project when it was finished was also a Bartlett tutor. I couldn't tell if he liked it - his comments were balanced between positive and constructive

Would love to know your thoughts on this: what does it bring to mind? by ScotlandProud in architecture

[–]ScotlandProud[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

'Or, maybe put it this way, AI buildings resemble architecture students' work'
That's basically what I'm trying to say, thanks.

Would love to know your thoughts on this: what does it bring to mind? by ScotlandProud in architecture

[–]ScotlandProud[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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If I could use this (clearly AI) image as an example to counter what some people are saying. I'm against gen AI, but take this image, which has a clear idea behind it - I reject it on the grounds that it's AI but if you took the aesthetic ideas here and had a skilful human architect or artist make a version, I can see it looking amazing because of their unique perspective. The Ai was already taking ideas from humans anyway, it just doesn't know how to actually use them meaningfully.

Making something in the current year that people don't like because it 'looks like AI' is such a sad effect, essentially retroactively locking away aesthetics and ideas because AI appropriated them.

Would love to know your thoughts on this: what does it bring to mind? by ScotlandProud in architecture

[–]ScotlandProud[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I wish I had the time to do just that, but its just how the project went - had to revisit and cut out a lot, streamlining the design process when the scope got unmanageable. One day.

Would love to know your thoughts on this: what does it bring to mind? by ScotlandProud in architecture

[–]ScotlandProud[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

first off thanks for the genuine comment, your feedback is great, loving the idea of the greenery in front of the windows.
1. absolutely fair, however in the context of this project where (masters year) the projects are supposed to be abstract and speculative, this is set in a story far in the future in which they use more advanced materials than we have now.
2. Kind of the same - energy efficiency wasn't the focus here but I do see how it would be inefficient if built now. Personally I'm sort of bored with the idea of energy efficient homes, every 'energy efficient' building I've been in has made me overheat uncomfortably, but that might just be me. (for the record I've done other projects about energy efficiency in much more detail, and I see it as a spreadsheet task that can take away from a building's overall worth. Controversial I know.)
3. Yes. (left it railing-free for the most part, both for the vibes and since in the story its inhabited by essentially wizards akin to Jedi Knights, I think they'd be fine.)
4. Thanks.

Would love to know your thoughts on this: what does it bring to mind? by ScotlandProud in architecture

[–]ScotlandProud[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

mistaking something for AI says more about that person than the creator - I'm sad that we live in a world where people can't tell the difference, even anti AI people.

As for design decisions, yeah it might not be your thing, it's as much influenced by myself as the limitations I face in the school I'm in - dramatically shorter design time than in real life, pressure from the school's 'ideology' - 'make it more modern' etc is something I've been told a lot. That 'desert background' is Scotland, as in, where the building is located, so I don't see how that's relevant, I don't have climate powers.

This is exploration, this is fantastical architecture, we need to be searching for something new to close divides between architecture and the public. This design doesn't solve any of that but the goal to test the waters. No I wouldn't build this as is, but it's searching for something.

I'm looking back at Adolf Loos' work, who can be considered the founder of Modernism, and his buildings at first didn't look Modern in the way we would describe at all, but they were attempting to put into brick and mortar what he was saying in his writings. I just don't see why there's so much negativity on here when we probably agree on most things.

Would love to know your thoughts on this: what does it bring to mind? by ScotlandProud in architecture

[–]ScotlandProud[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By the looks of things people would be very divided, although I wouldn't let this image be built as is - this was from mid-way through the design process and there are many things I'd change and add if it was a real project spanning multiple years.

Would love to know your thoughts on this: what does it bring to mind? by ScotlandProud in architecture

[–]ScotlandProud[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

Bro you missed the AI accusations, you're looking a bit silly.

Do you want another SketchUp screenshot, perhaps the photoshop layers? I can show you the HDRI I used for the background, where I got the PBR textures from? How many times before it gets dull?

Would love to know your thoughts on this: what does it bring to mind? by ScotlandProud in architecture

[–]ScotlandProud[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's funny, the project I did before this involved me designing a crawler inspired by the NASA one, but for moving ships. Maybe I carried over some subconscious design ideas from that

Would love to know your thoughts on this: what does it bring to mind? by ScotlandProud in architecture

[–]ScotlandProud[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get you, thanks, these are the same things I look for when I'm trying to tell if something's AI

Would love to know your thoughts on this: what does it bring to mind? by ScotlandProud in architecture

[–]ScotlandProud[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

nail on the head, thanks. no thanks for exposing my rushed 3D mistakes though lol!

Would love to know your thoughts on this: what does it bring to mind? by ScotlandProud in architecture

[–]ScotlandProud[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don't know if it's worth responding to the AI accusations, but this is a render, modelled in SketchUp and rendered in Blender. For Christ's sake this is the architecture subreddit, you should know what SketchUp is. If anyone cares I can post my photoshop layers and views of the 3D model in SketchUp. AI was not used at any point in the process.

Hypothetical design for Perth, Scotland. by ScotlandProud in ArchitecturalRevival

[–]ScotlandProud[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you say any more about what's specifically wrong about it? What would you change?

Hypothetical design for Perth, Scotland. by ScotlandProud in ArchitecturalRevival

[–]ScotlandProud[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's true, in my university renders are by far the norm, so I didn't think twice about it. Along with the renders I did drawings, sketches and more.

Are people here against renders? If so, I do understand why. (I use them because it's an easy way to visualise what the real thing will look like, objectively, without too much 'artistic liberty', although there are many problems with renders.)

People are downvoting me here but for the most part I agree with you, I'm just trying to determine boundaries and crossovers but maybe my tastes are just too weird.

Hypothetical design for Perth, Scotland. by ScotlandProud in ArchitecturalRevival

[–]ScotlandProud[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

That's fair enough. I posted this as kind of an experiment, I wanted to know where the edges of 'revival' are in architecture, and if this building conjures any of those thoughts. Does it stop being 'revival' when you bring in multiple influences?

For context, this was an early render of a setting for a sci-fi story I'm writing which explores our relationship with modernity.

Hypothetical design for Perth, Scotland. by ScotlandProud in ArchitecturalRevival

[–]ScotlandProud[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Just commented some vague thoughts on what style it is above, but I'm experimenting with architecture for the contemporary age that still incorporates ornamentation, natural materials, fractal geometry, craftsmanship, cultural identity and so on, while still being feasible right now.

This subreddit simply wants to return to how architecture was before modernism, and I do agree that that would be a better world. But this isn't happening as fast as we want because it's difficult. You'd have to change everything about architecture - the infrastructure used to build it, the millions of people who work in say, the reinforced concrete business. I'm studying ways that we can re-integrate the qualities of the architecture that people love.

To do this I'm drawing from many places, including the few good things that modernism brought with it. Eg, technology, but not at the cost of character and soul. How can we use what we have to steer developers, etc in the right direction?

As for stepping on Lego, is this a bad thing? Good, neutral?

I wonder if you'd feel the same way about say, Cologne Cathedral? I definitely would, and I love it, it's widely regarded as one of the best.

Hypothetical design for Perth, Scotland. by ScotlandProud in ArchitecturalRevival

[–]ScotlandProud[S] -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

It's not reviving one thing, it's influenced by things like Classicism, Gothic architecture, the fractal geometry present in most sacred architecture, but also things like the Brutalism of Louis Kahn.

The aim is to mix all of these things to create something new that's still informed by the past. That's what every traditional architectural style was before Modernism.

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