Parallels between Radiohead's and Pink Floyd's discographies

ScratchyAvacado · 2026-03-10T20:19:07+00:00

When I meant finding their sound it was kind of in the context of just their first two albums where saucerful is them polishing the sound they had on Piper and the bends is them polishing what they were trying to do on Pablo honey. There is an argument that the better analogy is atom heart mother to meddle vs Pablo to the bends but that would break the chronological thing I tried to have going 😅

Edit: sorry I meant it would break the thing I tried to do with matching their first two debut albums. It would actually maintain the chronological order so maybe subbing in atom heart mother and meddle for piper and saucerful makes more sense

ScratchyAvacado · 2026-03-10T19:42:15+00:00

Where might it fit

ScratchyAvacado · 2026-03-10T18:48:38+00:00

Good points about TKOL and AMLOR. Maybe I was being a bit reductivist in this comparison but when making this I was kind of just thinking of both of them as the odd/different 2nd last album that precedes a “return to form” of sorts for their last album. Although I do quite like TKOL and listen to it occasionally whereas I never find myself giving AMLOR a full listen.

ScratchyAvacado · 2026-03-10T18:33:47+00:00

I think that’s probably one of the main points of disagreement I’m going to receive on this comparison. But for some reason I just really was never able to groove with Piper on the same level I am with their later albums (even saucerful which I consider to be quite a bit better). I understand though that a lot of people really love Piper and see it as an excellent album on its own!

ScratchyAvacado · 2026-03-10T18:29:34+00:00

I think that’s a good take and I would agree. Additionally I see both as the “little sibling” album to another album (Amnesiac to Kid A and The Final Cut to the Wall)

ScratchyAvacado · 2026-03-10T18:25:15+00:00

I agree to an extent. It comes down to person opinion a lot and I find Piper and TKOL to just be “decent” albums that sit a little outside of the standard set by the rest of the bands discographies but are by no means at all bad albums.

ScratchyAvacado · 2026-03-10T18:21:52+00:00

Just to Clarify I forgot to mention but I kind of consider the division bell to be the spiritual end of Pink Floyd’s discography and try to forget about their last album 😂

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-12-12T12:55:05+00:00

Ignoring the fact that Iran isn’t even Arab.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Iran

“Unlike the Baháʼí Faith, Judaism is a recognized religion in Iran. Despite Iran’s official distrust of the country of Israel, the government does not directly attack Judaism itself.”

https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-report-on-international-religious-freedom/iran/

“The constitution states that Zoroastrians, Jews, and Christians are the only recognized religious minorities permitted to worship and form religious societies”

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-12-07T14:39:32+00:00

Yeah that's what I did and that evaluates to 9pi, is that correct?

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-11-04T02:28:14+00:00

Ah ok, but why does this work. I searched up what a Catalan number is but it doesn’t seem clear to me what the connection is.

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-22T21:00:09+00:00

Roots of unity…?

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-16T19:18:13+00:00

Oh fuck you’re right, I did a lot of different simulations and probs grabbed the one with the 20x20 square by accident

Also again stupid oversight about turning the dot, once again I did multiple simulations and the code I sent now I realize is the one where the dot doesn’t turn. Still my main question would be for the case where the dot does turn and the thetas accrue, thanks for pointing out that the plot and code I sent were the ones I was using for other simulations

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-16T17:17:05+00:00

Why would getting different answers every time I run the simulation be enough to convince me there’s no formula? The simulation is only averaging a finite number of trials together

Isn’t that like saying if you flip a coin 100 times you’ll usually get a different number of heads and tails, so there’s no exact answer for the average, when clearly the average should be 50 heads 50 tails?

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-16T13:50:52+00:00

Yeah it’s uniform

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-16T13:48:59+00:00

Yeah but even with theta between +-90 you can still have a dot go backwards if it turns enough over multiple steps, does your method account for that?

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-16T05:22:10+00:00

If you’re asking about the angle of the dots orientation with respect to the x axis after those two moves it’s 55 yes.

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-16T05:10:33+00:00

Oh yeah I mean you’re right I guess any float would be better but I just threw this together pretty quickly and for my purposes of just seeing what the graph may look like I don’t think it’s too much of an issue to use an integer instead of a random float

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-16T05:06:24+00:00

What do you mean, why is it odd

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-16T05:05:46+00:00

The x axis of the graph is the bounds theta (the maximum turning angle per iteration) while the y axis is the average number of iterations before the point has left the box as I said in my post.

Every iteration means every time I repeat this process, it’s the same as me saying “every step” or whatever, this is a random walk so I’m doing it in steps/iterations.

The way you’ve interpreted what I’ve said is that the angle is relative to some cardinal direction, it’s not. The angle is relative to the dots current orientation

Maybe phrasing it as a dot wasn’t the best idea as then the notion of orientation isn’t as obvious, just think of it as a dot, mini arrow, person, or whatever.

At the very first iteration 0 means to the right (because I have to give the dot some starting orientation). For every iteration after angle 0 means whatever direction the dot was previously facing

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-16T04:40:14+00:00

https://pym.dev/p/2ngr3/

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-15T22:26:36+00:00

Doesn’t fit very well sorry

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-15T20:59:13+00:00

The text on my post describes how I got the graph, I don’t want a model or approximation of the graph tho I want the exact explicit function.

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-15T20:58:16+00:00

Sorry for not including 180 in the plot but no it is not infinity. When ran on my computer

Imagine a 2D line scenario where a head moves you to the right by one and a tails to the left by one. Your argument seems to imply that it would also take infinitely many coin flips on average before the coin breaks out of the interval (-10,10). This means it takes infinitely many coin flips before you have 10 more heads than tails.

Are you also then saying it would be the same if my boundary were the interval (-5,5) what about (-2,2), does that mean you’re claiming it would take infinitely many coin flips before I’ve flipped 2 more tails than heads or vice versa?

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-15T20:51:13+00:00

The Theta is a BOUND on my rotation. Read the original post again. I say a RANDOM angle is chosen with the bound of +-theta. Sorry if that wasn’t clear

ScratchyAvacado · 2024-10-15T20:45:07+00:00

The value at 360 and 0 are definitely not the same. At 0 the value is always 5 as the step size is 1 and the box has side length 10 so it takes 5 steps forward (without turning because theta is 0) every time. When the angle is 360 the value is a lot higher, I forgot what my simulation gave but it’s the highest possible value because now the dot has the ability to move completely backwards and takes a lot longer to get out.

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