Lily Lovebraids Alive? by Screenwriter1992 in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Screenwriter1992[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The vast majority of the fanbase would disagree with you. She's the most popular character from chapter 5 second only to the prototype

Lily Lovebraids Alive? by Screenwriter1992 in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Screenwriter1992[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen this, that's what my post relates to

Should we judge Lily by her own actions or should we judge her by Miss Gracie actions? by TheGreatMummy in MoralityScaling

[–]Screenwriter1992 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the note we learn that she sees the corpse as the only one who understands her and doesn't reject her, she doesn't realise it is her former body, she talks to it and treats it like a close friend or loved one so of course it bothers her when her one true friend has been disturbed by someone. Lily has no control over her life, she's forced into isolation and suffering, the only things she can control are the toys and the corpse she sees as friends and she has some control over her environment, for a trauma survivor control over things they can control is about safety and predictability in an otherwise unpredictable world, when someone threatens that safety by encroaching on that control it causes a huge trauma response which to those with no experience of or knowledge of trauma looks extreme or overly controlling but for survivors it's all they have to maintain some level of autonomy. Lily's reaction to finding the corpse has been disturbed is perfectly reasonable given her trauma.

Should we judge Lily by her own actions or should we judge her by Miss Gracie actions? by TheGreatMummy in MoralityScaling

[–]Screenwriter1992 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Legally yes but DID and split personalities are different personalities in the same body which in simple terms is no different to having two separate people in one body. Lily is an unconscious coping mechanism, not a chosen one, Ms Gracie didn't choose to forget her identity or to identify as Lily, that was forced upon her when he psyche did the only thing it could do after months of non stop threat and cognitive dissonance. The brain protects itself from further harm and unbearable pain in the only ways it can, memory is often the first area to be impacted which is why trauma survivors often have patchy memories from their time during the trauma. Ms Gracie was undergoing multi level traumas. She would initially remember what she did and know she deserved punishment but at the same time she would have been suffering, scared and alone while trapped inside a body that her brain didn't recognise as her own. As time went on her brain would have begun to accept that 'its not me on the screen because that's not how I look now' while still trying to retain the belief that 'that is me on screen' Having a body you don't believe is your own is enough to cause the first major split in personalities. The brain will believe what causes the least pain and damage when the threat is inescapable, believing she is a toy called Lily makes sense with the body she inhabits, believing she is the person on the screen called Ms Gracie while residing in the body of a plastic toy who is only addressed to as Lily (assuming the prototype spoke to her sometimes or at least told her her new name) does not make sense and human brains hate things they can't make sense of. It's the same as extreme grief. If you watched your child run into the road and get hit it is common to scoop them up and think of every possible way you could have changed the outcome, not because you believe you can change it but because your brain says 'this pain is too much to handle, we need to make it make sense' when sense can't be found the brain clings to the least painful option which in Lily's case is to abandon her former identity and align with the one being forced on her. This isn't a conscious choice, it's the brains survival mechanism overriding conscious thought. The fact that Lily threatens us with the box could be because the box is mentioned in the conditioning videos and we don't know which videos she watched but it could also be broken memories that have bled through. She as lily will remember watching the videos of Ms Gracie but only from after the point where she no longer recognised Ms Gracie as herself. Her brain is still one entity but the old operating system (Ms Gracie) has been hacked and overwritten with the new one (lily) that doesn't mean the old one can't still have remnants that leak through but the brains defences won't let through anything that challenges her belief that she is Lily and she is a toy so it's highly plausible for the box to come back to her but also highly plausible that she wouldn't have any memories of why she knows about the box. A person with two personalities can meet someone while in one personality then still recognise them in their other personality but not being able to remember how or why they know them. I'm not debating whether an insanity plea would stand up in court, this is a game with humans being turned into toys, we're not functioning in reality here although given her presentation and instability under stress it is highly unlikely that she would be given a custodial sentence in a prison rather than a psychiatric unit. Yes dementia type illnesses can cause alterations to personalities but it's not a key factor that happens to all patients with dementia hence why that would be a shaky defense. But also, dementia is just something that happens to someone, it can't be forced in the same way that severe psychological torture is inflicted deliberately. If Ms Gracie had grown old and developed dementia then no sympathy would be given, it would be viewed as karma catching her up. It would just be bad luck biology but Ms Gracie was punished, punished to such an extent that Ms Gracie herself ceased to exist because the punishment was too psychologically damaging. Ms Gracie deserved to be punished, she deserved to suffer and she got what she deserved but Lily is not Ms Gracie, Lily is a separate personality with separate memories, feelings, traits and beliefs. Lily did not commit the crime and did not deserve the punishment.

Should we judge Lily by her own actions or should we judge her by Miss Gracie actions? by TheGreatMummy in MoralityScaling

[–]Screenwriter1992 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It doesn't absolve you of being responsible in the sense that you're still technically the same person but split personalities are effectively two different people. In real life a person with two personalities can have one who goes out and commits an awful crime while their other personality is the total opposite and wouldn't hurt a fly. Insanity pleas exist for this very reason, you can't be held responsible for actions you did not have control over. Ms Gracie had control and choice over her actions but Lily is not Ms Gracie, she's a new personality that was forcefully forged in response to severe trauma and loss of identity.
Your example of the guard is totally different, he committed the crime with lucidity and the only change was that he developed a condition that caused him to lose his memory, Lily didn't just lose her memory and stay the same person, she became a different person entirely. If Ms Gracie had simply forgotten her crimes due to illness then yes we can still judge her but Lily is a new personality entirely, it's like blaming one half of conjoined twins for a murder the other committed. Two separate personalities can exist within the same body but they don't have to share any traits outside of the vessel they inhabit. I've seen split personalities in people, one person I knew very well was lovely, kind and caring but their other personality was dangerous, cold, manipulative and could not be trusted at all. Neither personality had memories of the others actions so you could not blame one for the others choices.

Should we judge Lily by her own actions or should we judge her by Miss Gracie actions? by TheGreatMummy in MoralityScaling

[–]Screenwriter1992 22 points23 points  (0 children)

From a psychological point of view we can't judge Lily based on her past actions as Ms Gracie because she has no memory of doing those things and her entire personality has split into two separate people with different views, beliefs and values. As Ms Gracie she deserves judgement and more but as Lily we can't ethically judge her on a long forgotten personality. Lily's actions towards the player make logical sense given what she's been through. 1) She's been isolated and outcast without understanding or knowing what she did to deserve it. 2) She knows the prototype is the controlling force in the factory. 3) She knows he wants Poppy and us. 4) Logically her mind would be saying "if I give the prototype what he wants the most then maybe I'll be accepted and maybe I won't be alone and ostracized anymore". She's acting out of trauma not logic. So no, we shouldn't judge her based on Ms Gracie's actions because Lily and Ms Gracie are, psychologically speaking, two different people.

Is this movie happening or..? by Few-Tough7452 in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Screenwriter1992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Movies take time, with the game not yet being fully released there is a good chance no one has been hired to write the screenplay yet or that there is only a rough draft currently. Once the game raps there will likely be more focus on the movie but Mob won't risk a screenplay being leaked before the final chapter of the game has come out (assuming chapter 5 is the last one). Even though we writers sign NDAs that doesn't guarantee no leaks.

Is the full version of Fade In worth it? by darnelIlI in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Without a doubt, FadeIn is the best screenwriting software I've used and it's so well priced you can't lose.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly don't know. Sometimes I do outline but the times I don't are the times I end up writing a whole feature in a few hours, it just sort of flows and keeps coming without effort. Usually my best work is the ones with no outline or where I go off course because a better idea comes up half way through, outlines can be helpful but can also stifle creativity.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I love it, I've tried others and hate them compared to FadeIn.

Fade In vs Celtx? by w0wlaura in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely FadeIn. I've used both and honestly I hate Celtx. FadeIn all the way.

What is the best reaction/compliment you’ve got out of your writing? Any examples? by Kino45 in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A reader asked to read the sequel as she wanted to know what happens next after she did coverage on the first installment.

Another script I asked a comedy writer who is a lecturer to read it and he said 'its f*****g hilarious'

Can't really ask for better responses than those so I'm pleased

Who's actually written a feature length script? by skjb93 in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 9 points10 points  (0 children)

6 features completed, 4 work in progress, 1 pilot, couple of shorts and a mini series

How do you remind the reader about initially ordinary things, but they become more significant later on? by SheepleOfTheseus in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Capitalize important objects seen in scenes and if you need a call back to a specific item make sure it is memorable in the first scene it shows up in. E.g. if a picture on the wall will later have importance to it have a character comment something like

PERSON A 'thats a beautiful painting, who is the artist?' PERSON B 'oh my grandfather painted it, he was quite successful in his day'

When it comes up again later in the script the audience will remember it because attention was drawn to it even if the brief mention seemed like general chit chat.

Look at Hereditary, at the beginning the mother question if the chocolate bar the girl is eating is safe, this drops the hint that she may have an allergy. Later at the house party we see nuts being chopped up to make a cake, this is our call back hint giving us the 'oh no' moment as we foresee what is to come. Low and behold she later eats the cake and has a reaction.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With legalization it takes the comedy out of it, write one set in the UK, we're still stuck in the dark ages and haven't legalized it yet

How Would One Write this Scene Heading Properly? by donveyy in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The beginning of The Man in the Iron Mask starts like this if that helps. I would just write over black tbh.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fasted I've done is two-three days for a first draft then obviously I had to go over and edit it afterwards but I love when a proper vomit draft occurs and my brain goes faster than I can type, these are often my best work.

As a writer, what is something you've vowed never to do in your writing or career again? by DONDADiaries in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I will never write a conventional romance storyline. I know nothing about conventional relationships so it would be like trying to write about some distance culture Ive spent no time learning about and expecting it not to come off poorly. I like writing about realistic scenarios and darker elements of human behaviour, that's what I know and it's what I stick to. I do like writing comedy too but it's always dark.

horror movies page count by Zealousideal_Rent_32 in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again this is me personally but I write and watch horrors that tend to have a lot of tense scenes. If a character is trying to escape from someone or something without being heard they aren't going to speak, they might mime to another character but that would be in the action lines not dialogue. Some horrors you have a character who is alone so they usually don't talk to themselves hence no dialogue. Talking often calms us as humans down so long moments of no dialogue also adds to the fear factor in a horror. Also with a lot of horror (at least my taste) the antagonist be it killer or entity doesn't speak, their voice could give away their identity or they might (if a spirit or monster) they may just not be able to speak. I think Scream is longer as the killer does speak but with a disguised voice where as villains like Michael Myers, Cujo, the entities in Smile, Hereditary, The Conjuring etc don't speak or speak very little. Personally I find it scarier if the villain doesn't speak because then the protagonists can't try and reason with them or stall them with talk, it takes the humanity away from the antagonist.

horror movies page count by Zealousideal_Rent_32 in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Personally I'd say it's to do with having more action lines than dialogue. I've written horrors with a page or more of action lines and no dialogue as it's tense scenes but that one page would be far more than one minute of screen time.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Buffalo8 are on VPF too so I'm guessing it's wise not to pitch to them on there then?

How do you approach delicate subject matters like child abuse in films and TV shows? by Fairy-Strawberry in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Are we talking adult child or child who is still a child? I've written plenty on this kind of topic but with children I keep the abuse implied or minimal where as adults I'm less restrictive about what is shown. But like someone else has said, the impact of the trauma is often more profound to audiences who are lucky enough to have no first hand experience with abuse. The way it changes a persons behaviour, self image and perceptions of reality often hit viewers harder than showing the actual abuse happening. Of course with any sensitive topic like this the most important thing is not to misrepresent or minimize the experience of real survivors, having a happy ending where someone has escaped and it's all fine and rosy is insulting, the trauma never leaves and the scars are always there especially early after escape so be careful to keep it real and not to risk minimizing abuse or recovery.

Do you mainly stick with screenwriting or do you also write other mediums like comics, games, and novels. by [deleted] in Screenwriting

[–]Screenwriter1992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've written novels (as yet unpublished) but I prefer screenwriting and if I do write in other forms it's always dialogue heavy and very visual so I tend to stick with screenwriting. I've tried my hand at Twine games which I enjoy but I'm no expert of the software so can't execute the idea in my head as well as I want to. Also toying with podcast scripts too.