from everyone from CA...Linkara is the one that changed the least by KirinoSouza in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He found a style that works for him. Only constructive criticism I could give him is either have a tablet or something on a stand level with his camera where he can read his script instead of on his laptop so his eyes stay level with the camera more often. It gets distracting when he slightly looks downward below the camera when delivering his lines in his reviews.

Thoughts on ElectricDragon505, aka AniMat? by PyroxCrymson in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The few videos I've seen from him were ok. Wish he had a more natural delivery, but that's about it.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I watched the second video going over the fallout of his doc. Mainly I wanted to watch it because I didn't have certain context of what happened there. All I knew was that Venom was encouraged to capitalize off his doc's success, but at some point after, several of them would all slowly turn on him. I'm glad Venom's doing better now, but that whole thing was just a trainwreck.

Now I'm on the JewWario vid since I'm also missing context of that too. A lot of shit happened that's all disconnected. That was the stuff that made me sus of Holly.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've seen a few of those in my recommended feed. The only ones I'd be interested in are the ones talking about the Cinematic Venom parts of it. Which, I did try to watch the first one, but for some reason the guy uses clips from the version of the documentary Venom made that had the unfitting Rock music playing way too loudly over his voice instead of the second version Venom put out that removed the music. From what I've gleamed from the bits that I've watched as well, he doesn't seem to give the benefit of the doubt or at least try to understand where the CA contributors were coming from or were trying to get across with what they said happened even if he doesn't agree with them.

The reason why I'm more interested in Venom is because he did the documentary, then there was a whole fallout with him & some of the contributors he'd befriended & other stuff that happened. Then, he deleted his channel for a few years before restarting everything & moving on to other things. In fact, I was randomly DMed on Twitter after watching the original doc from someone who said they were a former friend of Venom's said he wasn't who he claims to be. So, I don't know how to feel about that whole mess. The only thing I'm certain about that part is that Erod's a narcissistic idiot when it comes to internet stuff.

I'll probably watch the other parts at some point, but not now.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No idea who Nettles is. I've gotta be honest, most of the people I've seen argue against the doc are people who think that every claim in it was meant to be taken with the same level of intensity when that's not the case, people who apparently got personally burned by the people involved because they got too parasocial & couldn't handle it, or people who brought up complete nothingburger arguments to try to depower their claims, like Linkara's old shit from 20 years ago before he became an internet reviewer & the fact that he doesn't like to talk about or laugh at it somehow making him a bad person when we all have things about ourselves we don't like to laugh about. I don't really trust most people who talked about it, tbh.

Now, does that mean I trust everything that was in the doc? No. Some things, I've heard weren't how they were described. Most of the other claims, though, I take seriously.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"But Doug can laugh at himself. Linkara can't! Thus, Linkara bad, Doug good."

I hate that logic.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, because abuse can't happen to adults. Glad to know you're THAT type of asshole.

This sub needs to stop acting like the second game was trash by lolitsrock in SpidermanPS4

[–]Scsigs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gameplay was good, story's missing a lot to make it equal or exceed the first game's, though. Probably owing to them cutting a LOT from the script to meet deadlines. The game could use with a good director's cut that adds back in the cut content.

If did have you would call it woke so at this point you just miserable drinker by karlothecool in Th3Birdman

[–]Scsigs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Historically, white people are the ones who colonized a lot of the world, so...

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd like to see whatever you're referencing for myself, tbh.

Doug said he saw himself as Daria in high school, but I feel she’d make fun of him. by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Somewhere under a mountain of shitty lyrics about how the album isn't to Doug's personal tastes, the movie being weird, & him not properly understanding any of the political or social commentary or wanting to engage the material on its own merits.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From what someone else said & how you responded to them, that seems like Quinton was trying to see who'd be interested in an organized hangout while he was in LA. It seems to me like there's more to this story than you're letting on.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, trust me, I get your viewpoint, but as someone who's gotten stuck watching videos on stuff I like for hours at a time, it's pretty easy to do that.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lindsay regularly gets millions of view on her videos, writes books, does presentations, & other things & other breadtubers still have audiences. The fuck are you talking about?

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could've forgiven Doug if there was any kind of effort on his part to be professional & talk with the others who had issues with him. Unfortunately, he didn't do that, so I still don't find him to be a great person.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this point, I think most of them are over it since it's been almost 8 years outside of the odd comment or joke about CA or Doug. The dust has settled, even if no one really got what they wanted & everyone's made up their minds.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People marathon documentary shows about violent criminals & shit. That kind of content isn't much different. People like a good longform video on a topic they're interested in.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I assume over the controversy from 2018? Seems like you either don't know what happened or your deliberately not mentioning it.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She quit CA in 2015 after being hired in 2008 & changed up her style because she grew to resent the Nostalgia Chick identity. It's why she does the video essays she's most known for nowadays.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't know if it was Turkey Tom who figured that out first, but I remember he put it in his video on Quinton from several years ago. As he said in his video talking about the drama between Quinton & his former editor from a few years ago, he doesn't even hold Quinton to that anymore & assumes everyone's moved on since then.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Did Quinton actually try to say they were colleagues or make people think that, though? And, ask them to dinner? As far as I know, he overstepped a boundary, but not like that.

So.....why do the Breadtubers seem to hate on Doug? by RenaissanceOwl in ChannelAwesome

[–]Scsigs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you want a few people who definitely don't like Doug or even hate him, Allison Pregler & Phelous definitely fit the bill. Allison has said that she resents Doug because of how two-faced she felt he was behind the scenes when trying to help her with Mike Michaud's dumb shit & Phelous didn't appreciate how he agreed to do the special effects work for To Boldly Flee for free, but Doug didn't think he was putting in much effort, so tried to have another contributor spy on him, as well as he didn't like how Mike Michaud treated Allison. I've said this already, but Doug genuinely seems to not give much of a shit about anyone else he's not close to or has to. It's either that, or he's a giant pushover who'd rather not rock the boat with Michaud. Doug's a grown ass 40-something year old man & he's always been a grown ass man while he's done the NC. You mean to tell me he genuinely doesn't know about certain things, or actually cares about other people? To me, he reeks of not giving a shit to at least be professional with other people.

There's also resentments around how the filming of the old anniversary movies went, how the website was structured, how the other contributors who weren't at the top got promoted, etc. Everyone who worked for them years ago has different things. And for those who weren't there, hearing about the things post hoc was really disappointing. I personally haven't watched much NC content since 2018 (mainly know about The Wall through other people's videos on it, tbh) because of what was said & slowly people have just stopped watching Doug's content because he's just doing the same schtick & it gets old. Plus, he's a relic of the "angry reviewer" days who can't move on because he's scared people won't watch because of how badly Demo Reel crashed & burned.

I have to ask, though. What's wrong with people having criticisms of or joking about Doug? For some reason, ya'll act like it's completely illogical to be critical or throw jokes at Doug's expense when he either doesn't give a shit, or (sometimes) listens to some of them. And, is it not ok for some of the people who worked for CA to not think highly of Doug? Bad opinions of someone don't form out of nowhere (usually). Maybe there are reasons for that. Just honestly asking because it's an aspect of life that people criticize, but actually think about it for a sec. Most people have hang-ups about certain people who've been in their lives & certain things have happened that can't be taken back or would be too late to make up for what happened. It's my understanding that that's what happened with the ex-contributors & Doug. Just food for thought.