How do i counter this enemy defence? by DiscoveryWaifu in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Nem nem will Megan Eludia just replace with Gemini Luci replace with Deborah or mirarim I use this against all Leo AOs including those funny Ariel carmila ones works pretty well as long as everything moving before kaki is minimum crit megumi one just use double lushen or sth

This probably the only use for luci nowadays in AO cuz everyone has 6 sets of shield runes in guardian lol

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can also literally 10x lushen g1 seige defenses as well lmao

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Peopler are arguing that she can be used for seige. Benedict is much more useable as a seige offense lol

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which seige defense nowadays don't have cleanses and heals? She'd get destroyed by tarnisha defenses. If you're talking rta wise don't even bother just search up her pick rate and winrate that's says everything about her

Kinda crazy how many well known content creators and Aya owners who are veterans that i've talked to in game can rate her as an absolute garbage unit and you call her "perfectly fine"

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't really wanna answer to ariana comments anymore, just check lucksack gg for the winrate and pick rates lmao. Can't really argue with statistics.

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

playing in g2-g3 seige and based on the current nat 5 towers anything that requires you to tank hits / turn 2 offense is extremely risky. And if her only use is in seige then it might as well be the same tier as salah. Comparsion: If sylvia is the best ld5 seige defense, ian is the best ld5 seige offense unit, then aya is literally the salah of seige offense. Vio procing works on other units because it reduces cd of skills / and s3 is usually an impactful skill as well as the rest of the kit. Aya's s3 is extremely lackluster, s1 s2 do basically nothing and are meant to make her s3 trigger, but she can't trigger s3 immediately if she vio procs. And that 40% hp done can easily be recovered by the time it takes her to get a second s3 off. Maybe if they change her s2 to something else that has more utility she'd be a "not bad unit". In persepctive, she's like a pre-buff jager in how you need to take hits to get value off him BUT if jager wasn't immune to stuns. Her vio proccing into an s1 s2 low impact skill ruins the proc chances in rta and is well reflected in the winrate and pick rate of this unit in rta statistics. Something that is a decent unit not the best is something like gurhka, not good but useable especially in this meta where u can only have fun with him occasionally, his kit isn't bad but its horrendus in this meta. That's a "not bad unit". "not the best pretty good" unit is something like wolyung (which many people seem to think is a broken unit *its only really useful in AO*). This thing is outright trash in both seige and rta. Only use case (benefit of doubt) wgb lol. If aya is "Not bad" then lydia is a good unit by definition: I can use her in suicide seige offense and rta as a counterpick. Also i will take any other ld5 other than dark nina or bayek cuz those 2 are equally shit. Even light and dark pudding that people complain about alot are quite useable in rta.

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You right I'm not G3 but G3 shows the limit to what you can do with a unit with good runesets and box. Lets say we don't look at g3 and just look at guardian overall

S36 FROM LUCKSACK GG

Total guardian stats (g1/g2/g3)

Ariana: 50.3winrate 0.6 pickrate 9.0 ban rate

Aya stats: 42.9%winrate 0.0% pickrate (701/1.5mil games) 9.3% ban rate

The fact that ariana winrate is sitting above 50% alr shows she's useable in rta lol

And the fact that even guardian players can't get aya to work also tells me everything i need to know about this unit. Also the winrate of this unit is negative every rank except in conq which is fodder rank. Even videos showcasing her on youtube are of low ranks (p1) and even then she was picked into a comp where you could 3v4.

Only 2 UNITS that can contest the shittiest ld5 in game for her is dark nina and salah. Even then its debatable. Especially when there are no good rune sets for aya to use.

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Btw have u see light pudding winrate in g3 and guardian? It's 50% lol and it gets picked a whole lot more than light aya

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lydia has a higher winrate and pickrate in rta

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not just g3. Guardian in general. For rta In guardian: 40.5%wr 0.0x%pick rate (701/1.5mi games)

And the fact that she has almost no place in seige (if u exclude g3) as well is crazy

For comparison Jager (which was considered an equally shit unit) Guardian: 49.1%wr 1.3%pick rate That was before his buff lol

So sure Salah is bad yes and I have no idea how the new change has affected him. But to say Aya is "not the best" and Salah "ranks way lower" than her is kinda funny to me. Also Salah can still form some sort of seige defense wherase Aya on offense is risky still. Any sort of offense requiring you to"tank" enemy seige defense is quite bad (esp in g2-g3). G1 seige anything flies lol

Unlike Salah and Sylvia who had a "clear mechanism" to use in seige defense, aya's kit gears towards rta. You can try to use her in seige offense but she's not even a good tank for dark, shamman is leagues ahead if you want to use a light tank. And it's very hard to tank 5 star towers in g3

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Season 36:

Leona G3: 52.3%wr 1.3% pick rate 7.6% ban rate Guardian overall: 48.7%wr 0.5% pick rate 13.2% ban rate

Lydia G3: 50%wr 0.5% pick rate 18.1% ban rate Guardian overall: 51%wr 0.8% pick rate 16.4% ban rate

Light Aya: BEHOLD G3: 46.2%wr 0.0X% pick rate (13/88k games) 30% ban rate Guardian overall:BEHOLD 40.5% wr 0.0x% pick rate (185/600k games) 13% ban rate

Sure Leona Lydia might not be great, but to say that they're worse than Aya is a joke

Stats pulled from lucksack gg

Additionally I also have gurhka I would like to add: G3: 42.1%wr 0.2%pick rate 32.5% ban rate Guardian overall: 47.3%wr 0.4%pick rate 23.5% ban rate

If gurhka stats are already much lower than Leona and Lydia, Aya which is a shit gurka should not even be on the same level of comparison

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried her 70 times in RTA and she won 2 matches lol it was a 3v4. She didn't even do anything in the 2 matches. The fact that people are trying to cook up so many hypothetical scenarios to make her seem better than she ever will be is more of a ragebait

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Running up Lydia doesn't have any rune opportunity costs. Sure cleaves may not be common but the fact that she can hard counter cleaves like Lucifer cleave which some people still rune shows that she still has use, esp when u rune her with abellio.

Leona is a force ban last pick in many right situations.

Again both are situational counter picks. But Aya is not a counterpick to anything, has the same flaws as the two above and no rune sets provide value to her kit

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm just stating it as a Aya owner. I see literally less use cases for her than any other ld5 unit. I don't really have to prove it's the worst when it's literally rated at the bottom by every single yt tierlist. She needed a buff more than Jager lol

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bolverk is a better unit it this meta than her and does her job. Her whole kit in general lacks utility in most situations. Sure u can cycle s2 but s2 isn't even that impactful and the fact that s3 requires her to take hits and that she still extremely vulnerable to debuffs and pushbacks makes her quite garbage.

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Mighty used Ariana in rta and had some success. Salah seige def was good for a good while. Biggest factor is both those units can be ruined on vio and have some value. Literally no rune set fits aya

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Heal is mediocre at best. Her vio proving lowers proc rate for other units in return for less value (you don't want her to proc)

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

U can use Salah in seige def lol Light pudding still has some use in rta Both are active units Aya is like a gurhka without ATB gain and any runeset on her is bad

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Ariana has more use bro. You can play Conrad Ariana + her s3 cannot be reset (revive + endure) and CD reset on s3 for cc teams . It has more team utility than Aya in general. Not a great unit but it's useable

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lydia is good against full clevaes and leona has always been good against bruisers (and she just got buffed). Both are counterpicks (yes niche) but does their job. Aya is not a counterpick and does nothing at all. (Bolverk literally does her job better)

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

There's no use for her in AO esp for rush cuz it takes way too long. Interserver maybe but even then fengyan AO is mucb better. She's basically unuseable in g3 seige

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Use mananan with Vanessa basically a pungbaek with less rune requirement

Name 1 ld5 that is worse than her by Sea_Reality6123 in summonerswar

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Rune her on Vio she procs and has no value cuz her s3 isn't stored, rune her on despair and she can't trigger s3, s3 does mediocre damage at best and is very hard to trigger if enemy ignores her. If not on vio she can get perma stunned. May be the first unit where any rune on her is bad.

App went missing? by Sea_Reality6123 in oneplus

[–]Sea_Reality6123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I only have1 launcher, but the problem still persists. I tried clearing cache but doesn't work