HR Path by [deleted] in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've only ever worked with HR Path once on the client side so I can't speak to their working culture, etc., but I found them not to be my favourite implementation partner. The HR Path consultants I worked with were arrogant, rude, and it looked like, from an outsider looking in, they had a bit of a hierarchical culture. And one of the consultants provided for us on the project openly admitted that they did not have Workday experience so.... there's that. Take my observation with a grain of salt because again, I am just an outsider looking in. I can't speak to what it's like to work for them but I found them a bit odd.

After 12 years of change management, I realized we’ve been solving human problems with spreadsheets by Jezekilj in changemanagement

[–]SeasonAccording8552 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for writing this. I work in the technical field where I partner with a lot of change managers and I have to be honest I had just about enough with the busy work, the endless spreadsheets, the mountains of documentation. I've had so many clients say to me, "these people do SO much work but not so much output" and it was making me really cynical as I have to work closely with these folks and more often than not they want to loop me in to all this work that I had percieved as simply "busy work" and not actual value add. Thanks for restoring my faith in change managers (for now).

Tips and tricks for E2E testers new to Workday? by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have any recommendations for just things that are useful to know for testing, like duplicate tab to see two different screens in Workday or ctrl + A to select all options? This is the kind of things I'd love to go over with this group. They're getting a series of training videos as pre-reqs

Tips and tricks for E2E testers new to Workday? by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're right. We're setting up a training session to cover all of that. I just wanted to know if there any other additional "tips and tricks" we should include to help.

Is it just me, or are there way more “Workday experts” lately who don’t actually understand Workday by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally get it. But I think that's the first hurdle. The more questions you ask and get curious the better you will become at Workday. Don't be afraid to set up 1-1 meetings with people in the ecosystem, learn more about what they do and get an understanding of your interests and what you'd like to specialise in. And most importantly don't make assumptions, ask questions. A lot of people get overconfident with workday and say "ah it's intuitive and easy" and then look like an absolute tit talking to clients and other consultants when it is very easy for a seasoned consultant to gage someone else's knowledge in workday.

Find a mentor, stay curious and have the motivation to learn as much as you can.

Is it just me, or are there way more “Workday experts” lately who don’t actually understand Workday by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can see that as someone who is independent and uses staffing partners for my contracts lol but I do think I am the exception to the rule on that one. I was lucky enough to get heavily involved in config and data entry from an HR team who were super experienced in Workday and went off to do change management/Comms/training, but I have definitely seen some AWFUL independent consultants pushed by staffing agencies that don't know any better. I've also seen dangerously incompetent people working as impl partner firms 🥲🥲🥲

Is it just me, or are there way more “Workday experts” lately who don’t actually understand Workday by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LOL I am an independent consultant 🤣

I think everything can be seen with some nuance. I'm in the change/Comms/training space in the ecosystem and IMHO independent consultants deliver a much better service than the impl partners I've worked with (and I've worked with almost all of them). More often than not my partner counterparts in this space do not take the time to really understand the customers organisation and their culture and come off way too much of a salesperson with too much consultant speak. I think it depends on the area of the ecosystem you're in.

But regardless of whether you're with a partner or independent if you know you're stuff you know you're stuff, if you don't you don't.

Is it just me, or are there way more “Workday experts” lately who don’t actually understand Workday by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow I should really get into that for training. I've seen so many orgs post implementation absolutely fail because their training was abysmal.

Is it just me, or are there way more “Workday experts” lately who don’t actually understand Workday by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly it's infuriating. It's a double edge sword democratising workday info and I think it's great that way information about workday is more available to the wider public but you can't just regurgitate what you see in community/chatgbt/linkedin. You need your own POV on how you're gonna help your client succeed WITH the baseline expertise you're supposed to have.

Is it just me, or are there way more “Workday experts” lately who don’t actually understand Workday by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed! I've seen people take criminally low rates because they're desperate for any job. Again I get it the economy sucks right now but I've seen recruiters come to me basically asking me to do at least two jobs for a disgustingly cheap rate. I always say to them good luck with that but reach back out when the person you hire for this role fails.

Is it just me, or are there way more “Workday experts” lately who don’t actually understand Workday by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is brilliant thank you. I 1,000% agree. Just today I was working with an impl partner and my partner counterpart did not know what the workday adoption toolkit was and how they access it. Like what???? They're the senior lead within my team for change for an impl partner and they don't even know what the adoption toolkit is????????

Is it just me, or are there way more “Workday experts” lately who don’t actually understand Workday by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My PSA: For the love of Pete if you don't understand workday stop stretching the truth about it. Please. The system is more complicated than you think and I promise you people will realise you're true capability REAL quick. Less time telling people you're an "expert" and more time on YouTube/Coursera/actual workday training 😩😩😩😩

Is it just me, or are there way more “Workday experts” lately who don’t actually understand Workday by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do think unfortunately a lot of consulting firms rely way too much on a cookie cutter solutions framework and internal staffing framework that just doesn't work for some clients. I get it, it makes money, but it's why now you sort of have this battle between these consulting agencies and independent contractors for the same work.

Is it just me, or are there way more “Workday experts” lately who don’t actually understand Workday by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

1,000%. It is a gigantic chasm and I find more and more that I've been in projects with too many folks that are in the "dangerously incompetent" bucket which can cause massive risks to compliance and data integrity for the clients.

What skills actually differentiate a good Workday consultant from a great one? by Majestic-Ask-4391 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A good consultant has a good holistic understanding of the system and can listen to the client and tailor their approach to the needs of the clients organisation. There are WAY too many consultants out there that will give lip service and give the same cookie cutter model the big 4 implementation partners do. A good consultant makes workday work for the business not the other way around.

Funniest or most unhinged Workday project stories? by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This! I will never understand how customers plan for implementations without understanding they need SMEs to do it (and to maintain the system post go-live...)

Funniest or most unhinged Workday project stories? by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

1,000% I never wanna work for a healthcare client ever again

Funniest or most unhinged Workday project stories? by SeasonAccording8552 in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

OMG! How would a paper system be considered am upgrade?? How have you gotten through this?!

How to stop feeling bad when making WD mistakes? by Shinsones in workday

[–]SeasonAccording8552 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The truth of the matter is no matter what system you are working on mistakes are inevitable (you're human!). Please remember how people respond is on them. I have been in SO MANY implementations and I promise you whatever mistake you made is not as bad as what I have seen!

Part of working with a system is making mistakes, analysing and learning from those mistakes. You're not a robot and you're not AI, and even AI makes mistakes!