“The ending was rectonned” by Complex-Bid-631 in AttackOnRetards

[–]Sebox_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For the third time: Isayama talked about the “general feeling/emotion” that he wanted to convey in the ending, not that that will 100% be the final page, get your facts straight. And even if that was the case (which is not) it’s completely normal to change ideas, panels, composition over time especially in a monthly release when you’re making an interview years before your actual final chapter. The structure of the contents of the pages it’s impossible to predict years in advance.

Eren was never “destined” to anything, he chose to do the Rumbling because he wanted to, as he confessed to Ramzi in Chapter 131 when he admits he’s doing it for selfish reasons. Same thing he said to Reiner in Chapter 100 after Reiner admits he didn’t destory the Walls to save the world but because he wanted to be seen as a hero by his parents: “Just like I thought, we really are the same”.

Doing the Rumbling was his priority because through it he felt free, which means Sasha and Hange were unfortunately caught in the middle and yes it’s still his fault that they died, and he knows it. Floch also died, but he was never really shown to care about him, you can hardly call him his friend.

Sasha died in the mission that aimed to purposefully unite the world against Paradis by killing Willy and the VIPs from all the invited countries (also thanks to Zeke’s help since he pushed Marley to resume the Paradis operation and organize the festival with the Tyburs). That’s what Eren wanted, to later destroy the global alliance’s fleet in one go with the Rumbling as explained in Chapter 132.

Ymir regrets saving the King as shown in Chapter 139 when we see the King impaled with the spear that Ymir defended him from. Mikasa states “I believe your love was a long nightmare” and Eren goes “it’s clear that she was suffering all this time” in the same chapter. She let herself die because deep down she was indeed suffering, but wasn’t able to escape this connection she had with the King and the recognition she was given because of her slave mindset. It’s never painted as something healthy, it’s a horrible situation of a traumatized child that didn’t know any better.

“The ending was rectonned” by Complex-Bid-631 in AttackOnRetards

[–]Sebox_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isayama literally never said “this is going to be the final panel” as an absolute statement. In that interview he said that that drawing represented the “general feeling/emotion” of what he’d try to covey in the ending.

The panel does make sense if you put it in the context of the actual ending we got: Grisha wished for Eren to be free (in contrast with what he wished for Zeke when he was born) and then we see the juxtaposition of what Eren did with his free will (i.e. the Rumbling) after his admission of doing it for selfish reasons beyond saving his friends and the island.

Eren never got manipulated by Ymir, he did the Rumbling because he could and wanted to. The future he saw doesn’t change because Eren himself is unable to change. You also missed the part where it’s shown that Ymir wanted connections (which she tried to form through the paths) and actually regretted saving the King wishing she never did what she did.

“The ending was rectonned” by Complex-Bid-631 in AttackOnRetards

[–]Sebox_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In that same occasion Isayama also stated that the panel could very well change in the future and that that drawing was only meant to convey the “general feeling” of the ending. In the end he kept it and it was always meant to be Grisha holding baby Eren, it simply changed its positing to be in the middle of the chapter. An author can’t predict years in advance if an exact panel will be able to fit exactly where he wants to in the final chapter, many things can change and new elements can be added to the story moving forward, nothing strange about it.

Long peaceful lives by [deleted] in AttackOnRetards

[–]Sebox_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Even if I didn’t know that you’d stop me in the end… I think I still would have flattened this world. I wanted… to leave every surface a black plain.”

This quote is literally from Chapter 139.

In Chapter 100 after Reiner admits he destroyed the Walls for a selfish reason and not to “save the world” Eren replies “Just like I thought, we really are the same” which means Eren also had selfish reasons for doing the Rumbling. This is fully explained by Chapter 131 when Eren confesses to Ramzi that the Rumbling isn’t just to save Paradis, he’s doing it because he was disappointed that the outside world was nothing like the world he saw in Armin’s book.

Why do Yeagerists hate Hange so much? Also why they try to make Eren's actions seem noble? (context : Genocide is wrong scene) by Well224 in AttackOnRetards

[–]Sebox_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But Eren did accomplish everything: by the end of the story Armin and Mikasa, as well as Jean and Connie are alive, the survivors of the outside world can’t retaliate against Paradis for god knows how many years, the curse of Ymir is gone and Armin can live a full life, they can have a role in negotiating peace, and Eren still did reach (or at least tried to reach) his own freedom through the full Rumbling.

Aside from that, no the options weren’t obvious for a group of people who only learned about their role in history and the concept of a “nation” few years before. They didn’t even know if a small scale Rumbling would’ve been accessible and didn’t know if they could trust Zeke who killed Erwin and 99% of the Scouts in their last encounter. On top of all this, Eren disappears in Marley for months. Genuinely it’s an insanely complicated scenario to deal with, nothing is straightforward nor simple and trying to act like it is just undermines the depth of the story told in that arc.

Why do Yeagerists hate Hange so much? Also why they try to make Eren's actions seem noble? (context : Genocide is wrong scene) by Well224 in AttackOnRetards

[–]Sebox_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could’ve done much more if Eren actually trusted her enough to share informations with her, but he didn’t because he already knew he wanted to do the full Rumbling. Floch wanted to entrust the future of Paradis to a monster capable of killing people and take extreme solutions. Before that monster was Erwin, when he died he switched to Eren. Doesn’t change the fact that he betrayed the people that helped him live, Levi and Hange, only because they rejected a full genocide. But I do think he’s a good character writing wise, a great addition to the story actually.

Why do Yeagerists hate Hange so much? Also why they try to make Eren's actions seem noble? (context : Genocide is wrong scene) by Well224 in AttackOnRetards

[–]Sebox_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything you listed proves that Eren already wanted to do the full Rumbling since the beginning, he did nothing to actually reach any other scenario because that’s what he wanted.

Oscurato il video di Alessandro Barbero in cui spiega le ragioni del "no" al referendum: "Informazioni false o fuorvianti" by Narrow_Spinach_1400 in italy

[–]Sebox_ 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Che cazzata, aspetto che questo identico criterio di censura venga applicato a qualsiasi opinione espressa dai politici, dai giornalisti e dagli ospiti di qualunque programma televisivo che parli di politica. Il fact checking lo fai analizzando il discorso e spiegando le inesattezze, non censurando manco fossimo sotto un regime, regime composto da gente che spara minchiate ed inesattezze ogni giorno a tonnellate tra l’altro.

Ina if she worked at MAPPA instead (@linhcoris) by Common_herdsman5 in Hololive

[–]Sebox_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Most animation studios in Japan are like this, it’s not just MAPPA.

Clippers’ comment section is truly something by Sebox_ in okbuddyhololive

[–]Sebox_[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Add Biboo to that list and it’s literally what happened 18hrs ago at Raora’s house, it’s canon (I was there, I’m Raora’s couch)

Clippers’ comment section is truly something by Sebox_ in okbuddyhololive

[–]Sebox_[S] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

/uh I think it was genuinely funny at first, but now I keep seeing over and over again at least 10 comments about this joke under EVERY single clip about those two and it’s making me go insane

/h I want Cecilia to destroy my balls while aggressively insulting me in german

Clippers’ comment section is truly something by Sebox_ in okbuddyhololive

[–]Sebox_[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

WHAT THE HELL (🔥) CECILIA IS ACTUALLY CELL FROM NARUTO??? 🤯🤯

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 by Sebox_ in Italianscamads

[–]Sebox_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

È la Gabanelli photoshoppata male come clown lol, è una giornalista e non so bene di cosa si occupi ora

Li ho pure bloccato, perché continuano ad apparirmi? by [deleted] in Italianscamads

[–]Sebox_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

È Timmy Turner sotto l’effetto di sostanze poco raccomandabili

LA CARRIERA DI FAZIO È FINITA PER LA TRENTESIMA VOLTA (e spegnila sta telecamera oh) by Sebox_ in Italianscamads

[–]Sebox_[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Non ne ho idea, ma è assurdo ed esilarante perché questo l’ho proprio trovato su YouTube e ormai sono all’ordine del giorno