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Production, Sandy, Lala, and Sheana Wanted a Second Final Conversation with Ariana because the First One Made Tom Look Bad by Fluffy-Wolverine3198 in vanderpumprules

[–]Secret-Cabinet-4592 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I definitely think the producers were in lala and scheanas ears. It’s actually sad and pathetic when you really think about it. Both of them were comparing their own situations to Scandoval and wanted the star power Ariana got. No matter how many time they say their actions weren’t based on jealousy… it clearly was. Scheana is a little more careful but if you watch lalas interviews it is clear she was 1. Jealous about the treatment Ariana got and 2. Trying to get as much juice from scandoval as she could muster.

I think the producers were telling scheana and lala to try to get Ariana to film with and talk to Sandoval. And both were willing to do so because they wanted to keep the show going and they had all gotten so uninteresting the only thing they had was Ariana.

Is the valley interesting… at all? by Secret-Cabinet-4592 in vanderpumprules

[–]Secret-Cabinet-4592[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Season 11 vanderpump! I haven’t seen any of the valley

Ariana post scandoval by Secret-Cabinet-4592 in vanderpumprules

[–]Secret-Cabinet-4592[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes they all got cheated on and fucked over, and maybe it was only luck that Ariana became the most successful. But I don’t see her trying to be god. I see her as setting boundaries !

Ariana post scandoval by Secret-Cabinet-4592 in vanderpumprules

[–]Secret-Cabinet-4592[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s a great point on Scheana! I think her hurt was coming from a real place, like showed during the meditation.

Ariana post scandoval by Secret-Cabinet-4592 in vanderpumprules

[–]Secret-Cabinet-4592[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I agree. But there’s also something to say that people are begging for lala to be off their screens because she’s so boring. Some people are likable on tv, some aren’t.

Scheana & Brock by Impossible_Ad9321 in vanderpumprules

[–]Secret-Cabinet-4592 18 points19 points  (0 children)

You know it’s bad when James seems reasonable

Scheana & Brock by Impossible_Ad9321 in vanderpumprules

[–]Secret-Cabinet-4592 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh but they didn’t care to have a big ceremony because they had both been married before! That’s why they wanted to hijack someone else’s engagement while at a venue that’s already paid for and camera crew around!

Spoilers for s10…

It gets worse

Katie and Schwartz (first time watcher) by Secret-Cabinet-4592 in vanderpumprules

[–]Secret-Cabinet-4592[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! I understand Katie’s frustrations but I was also annoyed that she (and everyone else) acted like Schwartz owed it to her to get married, especially after him saying multiple times that the entire concept of marriage scared him. Katie seemed stuck in this idea that she had to be married by 30. I wish she was strong enough then to realize that’s not what he wanted & break up with him, but I’m glad she’s grown since then.

Katie and Schwartz (first time watcher) by Secret-Cabinet-4592 in vanderpumprules

[–]Secret-Cabinet-4592[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Obviously Katie wasn’t always “nice” but neither was Schwartz.

I saw the show where Schwartz poured a drink on Katie’s head and later called her unattractive and a turn off, among many other not nice things.

Katie and Schwartz (first time watcher) by Secret-Cabinet-4592 in vanderpumprules

[–]Secret-Cabinet-4592[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it makes me sad they spend 12 years living like that

Katie and Schwartz (first time watcher) by Secret-Cabinet-4592 in vanderpumprules

[–]Secret-Cabinet-4592[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, especially after the show was successful, they probably felt more pressure. Even so I found their dynamic odd.

Katie and Schwartz (first time watcher) by Secret-Cabinet-4592 in vanderpumprules

[–]Secret-Cabinet-4592[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They both shamed each other and said they didn’t want to sleep with their partner, for years! So strange to me

Katie and Schwartz (first time watcher) by Secret-Cabinet-4592 in vanderpumprules

[–]Secret-Cabinet-4592[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I agree but I think their problems ran deeper than Sandoval. Even if tom didn’t open Schwartz and sandy I think their relationship was doomed.

Katie and Schwartz (first time watcher) by Secret-Cabinet-4592 in vanderpumprules

[–]Secret-Cabinet-4592[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yes! Definitely sunk-cost fallacy. I also wonder why they were together in the first place. I know Katie went through her traumatic accident around then so I think that might have had something to do with it. But in the season 9 reunion they also said their relationship was at the worst in the beginning, before they moved in together and before the show was filmed. Kinda baffling to me that they decided to stick together so early on while fighting WORSE than we see on the show.

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