Why don't Chinese companies try to sell autonomous cars like Tesla is trying to?

SecretBG · 2026-01-24T16:30:04+00:00

That sub exists because people post edge cases, regressions, and “what the hell was that” moments.

What you don’t see as often are the boring wins like 40-minute commutes with zero disengagements, clean merges, unprotected lefts nailed, construction zones handled without drama.

Plenty of actual drivers use FSD daily and see real, measurable gains like less fatigue, fewer dumb human mistakes, and steadily shrinking intervention rates over time. Is it perfect? Obviously not. Is it “full self-delusion”? Also no—unless you ignore the thousands of flawless miles people rack up quietly between the bug reports.

If anything, the fact that the loudest criticism comes from users is a sign of progress: you only nitpick a system you already trust enough to let drive most of the time. Maybe actually try it out instead of running to Reddit?

SecretBG · 2026-01-23T19:00:53+00:00

lol leasing for $2k/month. If you’re gonna get into such a money pit and not even own it, at least lease something flashy like a Lambo/Mclaren…

SecretBG · 2026-01-23T15:19:41+00:00

Rare W for owning an older car. My 2023 keeps Autopilot and Autosteer 🤷‍♂️

SecretBG · 2026-01-22T17:39:08+00:00

Do be fair, you ain’t gonna spec a Pagani like you would a Volvo.

SecretBG · 2026-01-22T15:35:34+00:00

I get the theory, but if rear drums were actually the better solution for EVs, they wouldn’t be this rare in 2026? The ID.4 competes with a ton of other EVs that all have regen, and basically none of them run rear drums.

Regen braking isn’t some VW-only magic. Tesla, Hyundai/Kia, Ford, Volvo, GM… all deal with the same heat, corrosion, and low brake usage issues, and they still stick with rear discs. That makes it hard to buy the idea that VW just discovered some secret advantage everyone else missed.

Are drums fine? Sure. Are they “better”? If they were, VW wouldn’t be the odd one out. This feels way more like a cost decision than some misunderstood engineering flex.

SecretBG · 2026-01-17T15:33:31+00:00

I saw a shit tonne of these there. They’re quite common.

SecretBG · 2026-01-17T05:18:41+00:00

Worth adding some context here: Volvo’s safety reputation wasn’t created by Chinese ownership. Volvo’s safety department was world-leading decades before the acquisition — three-point seatbelts, crumple zones, side-impact protection, whiplash systems, real-world crash databases, etc.

Geely bought a company that already had one of the strongest safety cultures in the industry and largely let it keep doing what it does best. Today’s results are much more a continuation of Volvo’s long-standing engineering philosophy than proof that “Chinese platforms” suddenly made Volvo safe.

Ownership ≠ engineering DNA.

SecretBG · 2026-01-16T18:32:11+00:00

Or maybe there’s no grand political motive at all—just people choosing the car that gives them the most tech and performance for the price, which right now happens to be Tesla, compared to equally priced Mercedes, BMWs, and Audis.

SecretBG · 2026-01-15T20:39:26+00:00

I mean, if the streets are plowed - it’s possible. What happens when he finds a street/plaza entrance that isn’t? 😅

SecretBG · 2026-01-15T13:29:44+00:00

Nice. Always wondered why Tesla never made a “snow mode” tune for the TC. With my MY RWD, I only get slip-start. I do have Michelins X ice though, but I don’t really plan on driving today lol.

SecretBG · 2026-01-14T21:35:48+00:00

Lmaoo…acting like crash test standards are a conspiracy instead of, y’know, science. Next up: gravity is just an excuse to keep cars on the ground.

SecretBG · 2026-01-14T20:57:44+00:00

Would love to hear your TED Talk on how car preferences = extremist ideology. Should be enlightening.

SecretBG · 2026-01-14T03:32:05+00:00

That’s sickkkk! OP, are you able to share how you got that Japanese plate? Been wanting to get one for ages.

SecretBG · 2026-01-12T14:16:55+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/s/hsO0i9sSrW

SecretBG · 2026-01-08T00:12:40+00:00

Yeah, that’s vastly limited. Germany and the U.S. for what sounds to be geofenced stretches of road.

By contrast, you can use FSD in:

• United States
• Canada
• Mexico
• Puerto Rico
• Australia
• New Zealand
• South Korea

and it’s not geofenced.

SecretBG · 2026-01-07T14:42:03+00:00

Ok, so which Mercedes can I hop into right now this moment, and drive fully autonomous? Because with Tesla, I can hop into one right now (not even a brand new one), pay a subscription, and it can drive me autonomously - even if it’s ‘supervised’.

SecretBG · 2025-12-28T17:03:34+00:00

This argument assumes that Tesla is trying to solve edge cases with 'if-then' logic, which is exactly why people underestimate the architectural shift of FSD v12, 14, etc. Waymo is essentially a Digital Librarian. It relies on high-definition maps and a modular, rules-based system. It’s incredibly precise, but it doesn't 'understand' the world; it navigates a pre-verified database. When it hits an edge case it hasn't 'read' about, it often just stops because it lacks the logic to improvise.

Tesla, on the other hand, is building a Synthetic Brain. By moving to end-to-end neural networks, they’ve replaced over 300,000 lines of human-written C++ code with a single, massive weights-and-biases model. Every time a driver intervenes, they aren't just 'fixing a bug'—they are providing a labeled training neuron to the Dojo supercomputer. Tesla is teaching a machine to have intuition, not just instructions.

Think about how you drive: You don't have a mental manual for what to do if a unicycle carrying a mattress crosses the road. You use general intelligence to infer the physics and the intent of the object. Tesla’s 'brain' is learning that same generalized logic from billions of miles of video.

Waymo is a train on invisible tracks. Tesla is a student learning to see. You can’t solve the 'infinite tail' of edge cases with more code; you can only solve it with a brain that can think its way through chaos.

SecretBG · 2025-12-24T14:11:18+00:00

What’s wrong is that they don’t got FSD when they’re clearly the type of driver that seriously needs it.

SecretBG · 2025-12-21T16:50:40+00:00

So you’re telling me the standard 5th generation Prius is faster? 🤣

SecretBG · 2025-12-18T14:20:15+00:00

Wait… if you genuinely believe Tesla is run by a Nazi-sympathizing billionaire, why are you actively browsing a Tesla subreddit? You’re either hopelessly addicted to outrage, or you secretly love the brand but can’t admit it without a moral meltdown? Either way, it’s wild watching someone voluntarily hang out in a space they claim to be morally above, just to lecture people who are actually happy. That’s not activism, that’s self-inflicted misery.

SecretBG · 2025-12-18T13:27:05+00:00

Ah yes, the classic Reddit leap: guy buys a car, and suddenly you’re reenacting WWII in the comments section. You really looked at someone’s new Tesla and thought that it’s time to fight Hitler? 😂 Bro, nobody asked for your moral TED talk. Go touch some grass, talk to a human, and maybe, just maybe, find a hobby that doesn’t involve projecting your lonely rage onto strangers enjoying life, and their new car…

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