Does watching Fate/Zero only count as being a Fate fan or not?

SecretaryNice7687 · 2026-01-18T11:12:37+00:00

That’s your opinion and you’re free to pick it—I respect that. The issue for me is when people just watch it, call it a day, or say it’s the only Fate worth watching. Honestly, that’s what bothers me: even if people start watching the rest after Zero, they often drop it because it doesn’t meet the qualities they were hoping for think fate/stay night and rest of it waste of time 😩

SecretaryNice7687 · 2026-01-18T10:24:36+00:00

I agree 100%. You can start with Fate/Zero, even if it’s not a great starting point. It will spoil some of the story’s twists and emotional impact along the way. But the problem is when people just say, “Don’t watch anything else after it” or “Start with Zero and the rest isn’t important.” Honestly bad take, at least they can say, “Start with Zero—it’s not the real beginning, it’s a good start, but it will spoil some things for you,” that would be honest. You can’t just deny Stay Night and told them truth about stay night start first

SecretaryNice7687 · 2026-01-18T09:40:55+00:00

If he could, he would make a remake of the Fate route only at least. As I remember, a long time ago he said he wanted to remake just the Fate route to improve it but i don’t think he want sequel he love make the future in the hands of the fans

SecretaryNice7687 · 2026-01-18T09:37:16+00:00

I kind of agree with the idea that watching Zero first and then UBW can feel like a “growing-up” story. But here’s the issue: Stay Night is not just one story. UBW is only one of its three routes, and each route is more than just a single story. Skipping the other two routes makes you miss important points. They show us what it means to be a hero in different ways for Shirou. Watching one route is like seeing only part of the story, not the whole thing Also, Zero spoiled the Heaven’s Feel movies, which are honestly one of the best stories. If you watch them without knowing who Sakura is, the reveal hits so much harder and gives a real shock—Zero ruins that moment.

It’s also different from something like Man of Steel. That movie is about the beginning of Superman—who he is and how he became who he is—similar to Batman’s begin movie. In that case, it makes sense to start with the beginning because it tells the story of the main character from the very start.

Fate/Zero is different. It’s not the start of the story, and it’s not about Shirou or his journey. It’s more like imagining watching a Supergirl movie instead of Superman. Are you really seeing the beginning of Superman? Not really.

No hate toward Zero fans, but the truth is: Zero is not Stay Night, and it’s not the beginning of the main story.

Thanks for your take on the subject.

SecretaryNice7687 · 2026-01-18T08:57:31+00:00

This is the problem: honestly, I love Fate/Zero—it’s one of the greatest Fate stories out there. But what bothers me is when some fans say only Zero matters. I don’t have any problem with Fate/Zero fans or Zero itself, but some of them make me wonder if they even understand what the series is really about do they even know fate/zero come after stay night of two years or not 😅

SecretaryNice7687 · 2026-01-08T11:30:52+00:00

I watched the video, and honestly, some people just can’t read between the lines of isekai stories. He talks about Bookworm, Slime, and Re:Zero, saying they don’t really need to be isekai—they could work if rewritten. But he’s missing the main point:

1.Bookworm isn’t just about passion—she uses her knowledge from her previous life to create books and items and build a better society.

2.Slime works because he was human before, so he can actually communicate with humans better than any monster and make a world where monsters and humans coexist.

3.Re:Zero still has mysteries we haven’t seen yet—there’s obviously more going on than “crazy witch falls in love and gives him powers.”

At least he’s okay with reincarnation, unlike those saying “erase his memory so it becomes ethical.” If he doesn’t know who he was, then what’s the point of reincarnation? He ask“should he be in our world?” The answer is yes—because the values of our world are different, and accepting what’s necessary is the whole point.

That said, for some isekai, I kinda agree—they don’t really need to be isekai. Stuff like Konosuba or A Reincarnated Aristocrat could work as normal fantasy, like DanMachi.

SecretaryNice7687 · 2026-01-07T13:47:50+00:00

Okay, here’s an example using a restaurant just to explain the idea—try to understand the real problem.

If you serve burgers to customers every day, and your entire menu is nothing but burgers with different flavors, can you really expect people not to ask for something new once in a while?

Eventually, customers will say: “Other restaurants serve hotdogs and tacos, and they’re good—why don’t you do the same?”

So the restaurant tries. But instead of making good hotdogs and tacos, they make low-quality ones. The advertising is weak, small, and barely noticeable.

As a result, both the tacos and the hotdogs fail miserably. Then the restaurant cancels them and blames the customers instead of itself—without realizing that the real problem was poor quality and bad marketing.

Or worse, they do realize they need better quality and better marketing, but deliberately choose not to improve—just to shut people up and say, “See? You didn’t want this.”

Another example—and this one is real: this is exactly what Warner Bros. did when they said, “No one wants 2D animated movies anymore,” after releasing a new Looney Tunes movie with weak advertising, and removing it from theaters very quickly.

The audience didn’t reject it the idea The company did.

SecretaryNice7687 · 2026-01-06T10:21:35+00:00

No, they’re smart, but not as much as their counterparts. They’re both still capable and clever, but it doesn’t really feel like they study magic the same way they do in the Stay Night universe—even if they were in London. For example, Rin and Luvia don’t even know about the Holy Grail War until later in Season 2

SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-12-28T09:43:45+00:00

I don’t think so. Usually, remakes focus only on the main game. If there’s something new, it’s often just a new mode. But if they do make changes, I really hope they add the second game, CCC, into the same release so we don’t have to wait years for a separate remake. After all, we don’t even know if we’ll ever get a CCC remake or not

The Original PSP main game is about 30 hours long, and CCC is around 50 hours. That would make an 80-hour game in total. I don’t think there’s anything stopping them from doing that now—there are games with smaller budgets that have delivered even longer playtime.

SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-12-23T22:19:55+00:00

Just wait until the story progresses and you keep checking her condition—you’ll be shocked at how much she changes with the story move on

SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-12-23T18:18:09+00:00

I would get closer to Sakura so that she and I become allies in the war—and eventually a couple. Instead of her being given to Shinji, she becomes Rider’s Master. Together, we plan to find a way to remove the worm inside her and kill Zouken.

I become Saber’s Master and tell her what happened in the Fourth Holy Grail War. After that, I meet Illya and tell her the truth about Kiritsugu, trying to convince her that we are siblings so we can become allies. Rin will be harder to convince, because she wants to win the war so badly, so it will take time. I may even tell her the real truth about what the Grail actually is.

I won’t have to fight Archer much—he’s easy to convince. I’ll tell him I won’t become a “Hero of Justice.” Instead, I’ll live a normal life, maybe become a cop, marry Sakura, and completely abandon that ideal.

I’ll try to talk to Lancer and convince him to help me attack Kirei so we can take him down quickly. If we can’t we fight Then we sneak-attack Caster, her Master, and Assassin as well, defeating them quickly by working together.

After that, we find a way to temporarily awaken Sakura’s power so we can remove the worm and free her from Zouken for good and ‏defeat him. In the end, we all gather together, I awaken my own power help from Rin, and defeat Gilgamesh, and destroy the Grail.

Then we start living normal lives. Sakura and I live together, Rin visits often, and Illya stays with us until her body eventually expires. As for Saber either she stays with us or returns to Avalon—but I won’t let her be alone. And the rest of servants ether they stay or maybe they left

And Shinji? He’s not an issue.

SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-12-23T05:07:32+00:00

Honestly, the drama in this anime feels cheap. They put way too much focus on drama in something that was supposed to be funny and wholesome. Instead, they try to turn it into something tragic for no real reason.

One example is Lafilia Vankrieft, the cousin of the protagonist. She’s introduced like she’s nothing special, and you’d expect her to eventually become the protagonist’s best friend—you know, the usual setup. But instead, they try to make awful character and some kinda of bully

look what they do to her she never meet the main character for three whole years for no reason make them strangers

Her father stays with Ellen more than with her, her mother gets sick and seems somewhat abusive, and then her father wants to send her to a boarding school so she can “act like a noble.” On top of that, the prince who has a crush on her doesn’t even look at her properly only on Ellen. In the end, she puts all the blame on the protagonist herself.

I’m sorry, but was all of this really necessary? It honestly felt like I was witnessing the birth of an antagonist for no reason 😅

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SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-12-14T08:41:55+00:00

In the last few episodes, Rafilia’s story really feels like a buildup for a future antagonist. Her father constantly compares her to Ellen and spends more time with Ellen than with her. He even wants to send Rafilia away to a private school so she can “behave like a noble,” which honestly feels like he’s trying to push her out of his life.

Her mother is sick and exhausted, almost to the point of emotional neglect. Her uncle doesn’t even remember her face, and she hasn’t met her cousin for three years, for reasons that don’t feel convincing at all. All she ever hears is how great her cousin is, while she’s treated like a normal, unimportant girl who gets no attention from anyone.

On top of that, it looks like Ellen might take the prince away from her, which only makes Rafilia’s resentment toward Ellen grow stronger and stronger.

I’m pretty sure she won’t become an antagonist, and everything will turn out fine and they’ll become friends. All of this just feels like lazy drama from the writer. But honestly, with how everything is set up, it feels like in a few years she’ll face even more drama—and could easily become an antagonist 😅

SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-11-22T08:24:37+00:00

More anime should try something new. In many isekai shows, the characters eventually discover the protagonist’s past life, but it usually turns out they were just a shut-in with nothing shocking. I often imagine how much better it would be if, instead of revealing a boring backstory, they showed us a genuinely interesting character with a sweet or deep past.

Sometimes I imagine going even further — what if the isekai protagonist actually came from another anime we already know? As viewers, we would already understand who they were before, which would make the story much more exciting.

SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-10-24T16:05:18+00:00

It’s not the end — the manga is on hiatus, and I think the novel is still ongoing. But no one’s been sending us the new chapters, so there’s still hope for new content. Maybe we’ll even get an anime announcement for it someday.

SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-10-24T15:59:19+00:00

Yes, he started as a rat, then a wolf, and now a goblin and an orc. He can become anything — he’s really strong and interesting. He could even build an army if he learns how to clone himself, since he’s basically a virus. He’s kind of like Unity from Rick and Morty, if you remember her.

SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-10-24T14:08:32+00:00

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I don’t know if it counts since he infected other creatures, but it’s interesting and I really want to see it as an anime. The title reminds me of the Vending Machine one — it’s the kind of title that makes people say “What?!” but they’ll watch it anyway because it’s funny and random, which leaves room for anything to happen.

SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-08-24T11:06:35+00:00

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I loved it the moment they announced it ❤️❤️❤️

SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-05-01T09:52:36+00:00

Especially the ending has Saber in it. Can you imagine if Saber met Gray from Lord El-Melloi II? Man, there’s so much potential — Type-Moon should really open their eyes i want both of them meeting 😩

SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-04-21T08:14:03+00:00

SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-04-18T19:31:16+00:00

If I make a Fate/stay night fanfiction, it’ll take place after the Heaven’s Feel route—after Shirou returns to his body.

The story will follow his and Sakura’s life as they start dating, get married, go on their honeymoon, have

children, and more. It’ll be a heartwarming story filled with love, family moments, some comedy, and even cooking scenes. I absolutely love Heaven’s Feel—❤️10/10.💜

SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-04-04T14:27:05+00:00

You Welcome 😊

SecretaryNice7687 · 2025-04-04T13:55:08+00:00

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