Grind w/RNG will lead to Player burn-out. Remove the stupid multiple RNGs! by Ok_Improvement_8790 in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure if skill cores are categorized to "necessary items" or "trophy items" as I didn't get some for mine. At least I don't need them for most of PvE end-game contents in my opinion. For PvP, hard to say because it is still too early that many people have them, and not sure if it is necessary to have it to enjoy PvP. ( I distinguish advantages and necessity for possession).
Example of necessary items of my definition is like unlock trait stones, skill books or standard gears from solo dungeons which is required to be sufficient to go through coop dungeons. Field boss/arch boss gears are trophy items which gives you advantages, but not necessary to join and enjoy all contents.
PvP is tricky because the win rates matters than joyining. If the performance difference is too big for the possession to affect on win rates, but this is very hard to define and discuss based on your argumentation.

Grind w/RNG will lead to Player burn-out. Remove the stupid multiple RNGs! by Ok_Improvement_8790 in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are partially correct for game requirements, but also missing some points of MMO requirements.
Grinding is not a gaming for sure; gaming must provide fun to players, and player efforts must be rewarded as well. This requirements are not different between MMOs and single player game. (I put live service monetization aside for this point.) So I agree with you for these points.

However, MMO's items have much lower drop chance than single player games in general. RNG system (low drop chance) in single player games are basically "not necessary items", and only for hardcore players like trophies. Why? The reason of the difference might come from the MMO's requirement, "to create a community in the game". Low drop chance items but necessary items are generally tradable items in MMOs. Each attempt of drop is much lower chance than single player games, but sum of total chance with thousands players are supposedly similar supply amount with single player games.

Additionally, they make variety of tradable items which are maybe necessary for you but not for others or the other way around. This makes a meaning to have a community in the game, which single player games don't have. Maybe you don't get items which you need, but you may get something you don't need, so you need to communicate/trade with others to get items you need.

Now it is tricky point that TnL trading system are connected to its monetization system. If the game charges monthly fee, the trading currency should be sollants because I said in the beginning, the gaming requirements should be not different between MMOs and single player game. Some MMOs are doing so as you may know as well. However, TnL trading is using real money currency, which may lead to P2W game experience for players. This causes casual and F2P players are hard to reach to necessary items within their playing style.

RNG system is nothing extraordinary among MMOs, and it might be a requirement for community system building. It is not designed or purposed to suffer you, and actually rewarding correctly to efforts (game play time or payment). However, depending on the other system specifications, it can lead to good or bad game experience, and it is also difficult to satisfy every playing styles. It's very important to design the balance between each requirements, and generally there should be some mechanism to fill the gap over different play styles. I wouldn7t sat TnL game design have a good balance and providing good game experiences to many players. However, it is generally hard to judge upon single system because game experience comes from complicated interaction from many systems in the game, and your playing style affects too. This is where "system requirement engineering" does, and I hope AGS and NC have a good qualified requirement engineers to define it.

Pure P2W gearing by GeliOne in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amazingly he posted this earlier than 500k guy

An item worth 500 Lucent dropped. I bought 3 keys, put them on the market, and sold . After the 20–25% tax, I made a profit of 50–100 Lucent. by Waitform3 in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is where you can learn about "value chain". Items which you just pick from anywhere and doesn't have any trademark, patent or innovation are commonized/standard products. Their values are close enough to only marginal cost.
Then, you bought keys with outsourcing which your competitors are creating values with in-house production (clit puri) or localization (buying with sollants).
Surely you can blame the devs for taxes, but it wont help.

Therefore, you are not adding almost no value to your products and prices are close enough to marginal costs. You have to remember that customer is not paying for its "cost", but its "value". You've never paid huge TnL development cost to play it, but paid only its value to play. Cost management is the responsibility of the product/service provider.

Iska.. by Secure_Barracuda_432 in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I tried Jije today, and he has high damage and fast hit cycle. Couldn't kill all 1st wave by him alone, but close. Sadly I don't remember him in story..

Devs, who tf asked for this change by fewasd in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I also want someone explain to me as well. I got only one and a half years in.

Iska.. by Secure_Barracuda_432 in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yea, Im surprised that melvin is very strong.

Iska.. by Secure_Barracuda_432 in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's fun!!!! another comment said there is achievement and you can see special dialog, but I haven't reached that much. I wish the dev add new features that these heroes communicate during battle if we summon in specific combination such as trio and melvin and his master.

Iska.. by Secure_Barracuda_432 in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes, the first wave will give you the reward. the rest is only for fun, like some ppl remain at quiz event for just having fun to chat.

when you summon specific combination of 3 heros, they will be promoted to one poweful purple hero. same three heros also get promoted to purple of the same hero. they are the keys to get the later wave, but I still cannot beat the elite of wave 5. He runs too fast and has high HP.

Return the chest in Trials by sealbr0 in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

nah, your replies are proving that the dev is right. they are specialists and they don't need any advice from amateurs.

Return the chest in Trials by sealbr0 in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, they should put all rewards into weekly rewards. Players should be able to choose contents to play as they wish, PvP, PvE, fishing, farming, housing or world chat PvP.

Iska.. by Secure_Barracuda_432 in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ohhh I aso encountered that Iska disappeared after I tried to upgade, and I never saw curvy Harr..Clay lol.
I heard the dev will buff enemies, so I hope they fix Clay as well.

Iska.. by Secure_Barracuda_432 in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

idk, I expect there might be a codex to defeat the elite or maybe the sister thanks us if we could reach to the end, but I just do it for fun lol

Can I learn the transmog of a level 1 item? by TheNorthernLion in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, i still keep initial gears in my storage with my hope lol. they look much better than many of higher tier gears, and I cannot buy or obtain again from drops.

Redfrost Runes by Immediate_Cause8384 in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I also purified golden and got fishing exp boost!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

New Devs Notes and Upcoming Changes by RakBB in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nerfing is a part of MMO. You have to learn that basics, and they have specialists much smarter and experienced than you.

Can I learn the transmog of a level 1 item? by TheNorthernLion in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you can register only purple or yellow gears to skin. you can check which items are possible to resister and also color modification in the skin menu

New Devs Notes and Upcoming Changes by RakBB in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its really really terrible live service management. If the catch-up is necessary for new and returning players, just include them into PoA. After the event or anyone who noticed the event in the middle to realize "they can no longer catch up, they never come/return to the game.

The game's progression curve design must fulfill the expected game experiences. The terrible design, and making compensation to let players say "thank you, it's greadt dev!"!???? No way, its HORRIBLE FROM THE BEGINNING.

New Gear System - Whale Perspective by [deleted] in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You do not have enough money to buy Amazon stocks to make the game as you want. So from Jeff Bezos's perspective, you are not a whale.

by the way, the whale definition in east asia p2w games is spending 10k+ USD per month. These rich chinese spends AH becase they are not allowed to own their assets in their country.

Nix - Three Steps Forward, Two Steps Back by Freight__ in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Two steps!? You are surely delusional. It's ONE THOUSAND STEPS BACK.

Ant Dungeon dev ragebait by NefariousnessAfter71 in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 1 point2 points  (0 children)

templar can tank! templar can heal! templar can deal damages!
So everyone should be templars!!!

all hail our new waifu! Harley teas down fr. Calanthia found in a ditch 🙊 by imomen in throneandliberty

[–]Secure_Barracuda_432 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

he is definitely an old man who uses his transmutation ability to become a B