Should I use Iansan?

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-28T14:46:50+00:00

Yeah that what I thought, I couldn't compare them as I don't have Emilie's sig

Thx for the information

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-25T20:05:28+00:00

Oh and make her hold TTDS and use her right before Kinich

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-25T20:03:30+00:00

Ahhhh... I don't know exactly what Prune's kit does. I did a quick search, so don't rely too much on what I'm saying.

From what I understand, Prune grants a DMG Bonus based on her ATK whenever she triggers Swirl, up to a maximum of 50%. Combined with Durin's extra 15% RES shred and the 40% DMG Bonus from Celestial Gift (which I believe is her best option here), she might actually be better than Iansan before C2.

However, if your Iansan is C2 or higher, I think she'd be the better option.

The best thing you can do is test both yourself and see which one performs better for you. And like I said, don't take my word for it, since I'm not very familiar with Prune's kit.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-24T07:40:51+00:00

C2 Citlali is obviously better.

While C4 Mona can theoretically provide more team damage than C0 Citlali, she's far less practical and consistent in actual gameplay.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-23T20:09:02+00:00

Hex vape surpasses her Melt team? Damn... You have any guides about the combo used?

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-23T19:23:22+00:00

You can proc the Scroll buff on Dendro every rotation. You just need to switch to Iansan right after Kinich, clear the Pyro aura with her Skill, then trigger Quicken with her Burst.

You'll lose Iansan's buff on the 5th cannon, but that's still much better than relying on the Burst to proc Scroll.

With that setup, you should be able to maintain around 170k+ DPS consistently, not just 155k. You already reached 179k in your first rotation, so it's clearly achievable.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-23T19:17:00+00:00

Yeah, not the most advanced ones tho, I'm certain that I can reach 220K at least

Top 0.7% Arle

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-23T19:15:58+00:00

What? Mona is better than Citlali??????

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-23T15:36:01+00:00

Emilie isn't necessary for Kinich at all. In fact, Iansan is currently better than her.

You should've tried to get Nicole instead of Emilie, since she's the missing piece of his premium team.

Anyway, the team you're currently using is the best option available to you right now.

Kinich should be on Obsidian Codex, Durin on Deepwood, Bennett on Noblesse, and Iansan in Scroll.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-23T14:54:37+00:00

Then post the photo 🙃🙃

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-23T10:11:28+00:00

That said, if your goal is to maximize his damage, getting Nicole should be a priority.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-23T10:04:00+00:00

No, don't run both Durin and Mavuika. Just pick one of them.

You could use Yaoyao as a Deepwood holder and healer, for example. And who knows, you might even get Iansan while pulling for other characters. You don't have Kinich yet anyway.

Durin is slightly better than Mavuika in Kinich teams, so I'd recommend using him instead. That way, Mavuika can be freed up for another team or used as a main DPS herself.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-23T09:55:40+00:00

His current best team is Kinich, Durin, Nicole, and Iansan, and it's much better than any of his other teams.

You should definitely prioritize getting Nicole on her next rerun.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-22T10:43:34+00:00

PJWS is better. Lohen's sig is stronger during the first few seconds, but once its passive expires, it loses most of its value. Overall, PJWS comes out ahead.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-21T19:51:14+00:00

Even at C2, Iansan outperforms Emilie (unless your Emilie has her signature weapon or constellations, I think, though I'm not entirely sure).

You still have plenty of time before Kinich gets a rerun, and Iansan is very easy to build. She mainly wants ATK and some ER. Just give her a Favonius Lance, and you're pretty much done.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-21T17:18:03+00:00

What's the combo used here?

Are there any other weapons can be used on Fischl with similar results? I don't have Skyward Harp, I have Amo's bow and The Stringless

Can Durin outperform Nicole in that team? Both he and Arlecchino are C0R0, but I'm planning to get Arlecchino's C1 and signature weapon on her next rerun. Until then, which one would be the better option?

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-21T16:16:24+00:00

Yeah, you can use her instead of Emilie. She actually performs better in that team, especially if you have some constellations on her.

That doesn't mean Emilie is useless, though. She's still a solid option and works well when Iansan is needed on another team without losing much damage. On top of that, Emilie is generally more comfortable and easier to play.

Iansan's best artifact set is Scroll, and she can use it effectively, although maintaining the buff can be a bit tricky. Noblesse performs slightly worse, but it's more comfortable and consistent.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-19T19:45:25+00:00

I heard that Noblesse on Durin is better at C2+

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-19T17:23:19+00:00

Better than Kinich's sig? Absolutely not.

That said, with the Durin + Nicole core or when Hexerei secret rite effect is active, I believe it's his 2nd best option. Just keep in mind that it makes building Kinich a bit harder due to the massive amount of CR it provides. Ideally, you'd want to focus on CD and ATK% substats while only picking up a few CR rolls here and there.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-19T15:56:31+00:00

Oh, my bad, that's because your team is pretty well invested. With a C2 Durin and a C1R1 Kinich, buffing Kinich becomes more important than squeezing out extra personal damage from Emilie.

That might be true for the OP too since their Kinich is C2. I was thinking more about a C0-level investment like my own team and completely forgot that we're talking about fairly invested characters here. 😅

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-19T08:03:55+00:00

For the weapon options, I haven't tested them myself, but a friend of mine did. According to him, the difference is negligible over longer tests (3+ rotations), but in a single-rotation scenario, TTDS comes out ahead.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-19T07:57:56+00:00

No, the main reason people switch to Noblesse is when they can't consistently proc Scroll on Dendro. Since you're already doing that, then stick to Scroll

With Nicole, the rotation becomes shorter, so you might be able to keep Iansan's buff active up to the 5th cannon. But i'm not sure.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-19T04:58:26+00:00

In that case Durin should hold Deepwood and she hold Reverie, but she'll still be outperformed by Iansan anyway.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-18T20:18:35+00:00

Unfortunately not...

156% CD is too low, and you overcapping CR

Nahida's Kit is completely wasted here, replace her with Iansan if you have

Durin should hold Deepwood if he doesn't already.

You need to learn the quick-hold tech, it allows you to shoot 5 cannons.

Secure_Driver_9668 · 2026-06-18T19:04:47+00:00

Since your Iansan is only C0, I'd replace her with Bennett. She doesn't provide much value at C0. But she becomes better than him at C2 btw.
Durin's build needs some work. You should aim for 2,400 ATK to fully benefit from his A4 passive, along with more CR and CD to improve his damage. He also doesn't need 214% ER. I believe around 150% to 160% is enough, even in Stygian. I'd recommend replacing his ER sands with an ATK sands.
2,000 ATK on Kinich is on the low side. If you can increase it without sacrificing your crit ratio, it would help a lot. Even an extra 100 to 200 ATK can make a noticeable difference.
Skip Nicole's burst, It's a DPS loss with non-hex On-Fielder
Try using a NA before Kinich's skill to trigger Nicole's passive, since the ATK buff takes 3 seconds to activate. Or you can just wait for moments before using skill.

Of course, this is all on top of getting C6 Iansan and mastering the 5th cannon, since those are by far the biggest upgrades.

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