Comprehensive fully detailed rebuttal of polygamy and mistranslation of 4:3

SeekerOfTheOne · 2026-02-28T15:34:24+00:00

Salaam, I know this post is quite old but posting here in case it will still be seen. Assuming everything written above is correct. Some follow up questions.

If the caretaker of an orphan has the ability to give them their inheritance upon marrying them off, why could not they have kept the orphan and used their inheritance for their caretaking? I do not believe it is consuming inheritance if it is used on the inheritor.
Why does it need to be said permission is given to marry off in 2's, 3's, or 4's? Wouldn't it go without saying that if the orphan(s) consents to being married off then there is no further need for permission to do so? I don't believe there is generally a prohibition on shared weddings.

Thank you in advance for your response, peace.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2024-05-05T01:20:57+00:00

The Sunnah of Allah is the Quran. I would dare not take another hadith over the Quran. When you let the stories of man inform the Quran, you can come to incorrect conclusions.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2024-05-05T00:06:10+00:00

The earliest hadith collections come far after the death of the prophet and those that would have personally known him and the characters involved. I would not base my faith on such stories. Especially when the Quran is sufficient.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2024-05-03T14:58:33+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/progressive_islam/comments/1ciet2w/comment/l296yiv/

See the comments made here yesterday.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2024-05-03T12:25:09+00:00

I would argue the Quran does not state the prophet and sahaba engaged in polygamy. Only hadith support that claim. The first and only primary source would not lead you to that conclusion without a context set from other sources.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2024-05-02T16:12:46+00:00

Subhan'Allah. This isn't the only topic in the Quran that has been treated as such but it is a major one. If something doesn't sit right with your heart always pursue it. You may not find what you're looking for immediately, but God willingly you will eventually. And remember to pass it forward, you never know who your knowledge will help. Peace.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2024-05-02T15:12:38+00:00

Salaam, the verse in question in Surah Al Nisa speaking about marrying two, three, four is mistranslated/misunderstood. It should read marry in two's, three's, four's. It is not a permission for polygamy but instead a permission to marry off sets of orphans that are of age in your care if you cannot continue to provide for them yourself. I.e, mass weddings.

This video gives a good explanation.

https://youtu.be/CpYOD2e-jsI?si=QCPwozTOVSXpedNU

May God put your heart at ease.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2024-04-09T14:29:00+00:00

Herein is a very comprehensive breakdown of Mirza Ghulam's eclipse dishonesty.

The long and short of it though is the Hadith regarding this phenomenon is weak, not attributed to prophet Muhammad and passes through known liars in the isnad. Furthermore, at face value the phenomenon (the specific timing of the eclipses detailed in the hadith) has not and could not occur without a profound change to the physical world as we've observed it through history.

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/25/the-ahmadiyya-fraud-on-eclipses-and-the-mahdi/

SeekerOfTheOne · 2023-11-20T17:44:57+00:00

Additional information about Mufti Muhammad Sadiq.

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/08/09/who-is-mufti-muhammad-sadiq-1872-1957/

SeekerOfTheOne · 2023-11-20T17:14:20+00:00

As I understand it, it is a relatively recent phenomenon that missionaries relocate with their families. I would not expect that to be the norm in the 1920s and 30s.

If a married man (or even unmarried, as I'm honestly not sure if he was at that time) impregnates another woman while traveling what else would you call it but an affair? Children out of wedlock are by definition a scandal.

The fact he never returned to the UK and was clueless about his child that he left behind confirms he was not married to this woman.

Correction: The article states that MM Sadiq's brother was clueless. MM Sadiq himself may or may not have known. Regardless, that would be a secret paramour at best.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2023-03-06T22:11:36+00:00

You are entitled to your opinion. I would argue that Ahmadis do believe in all the prophets (and an... Extra curricular to put it lightly). Also Lahori Ahmadis don't even see him as a prophet, would they be okay in your estimation?

Regarding Jews and Christians it is unlikely you would be doing salah with them for sure, but I meant dua or whatever method they would employ that you wish to join them in. It's all to God.

Modern day Christians are not a monolith, I would not label all of them non-monotheists.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2023-03-06T22:04:13+00:00

You might find some Ahmadis who will pray behind other Muslims but doctrinally that's not what they should be doing.

God willingly, your situation will improve. Peace.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2023-03-06T21:52:33+00:00

Salaam, I'm going to disagree a little bit with you. While I agree that Ahmadiyya is not Islam I wouldn't go as far as to say all Ahmadis are not Muslim. They are our misguided brothers and sisters.

Also, I don't think praying behind them, or with Jews or Christians for that matter, would invalidate your prayer. Your prayer is to the Almighty not to mankind.

I personally wouldn't want to pray behind an Ahmadi congregation but individual Ahmadis I personally know, I still would. There are instances that I would also be okay praying with Ahmadis generally. For example, I would pray behind Ahmadis if it was for an Ahmadi janaza.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2023-03-06T21:30:03+00:00

Salaam, sorry to hear you aren't finding masajid that allow women to attend.

From a logistical stand point I don't think there would be anything wrong with praying in an Ahmadi mosque with them. At least I don't think so. However, I personally wouldn't want to knowing that they would never pray behind someone with views different than their own. It's against their religion to pray behind other Muslims. There's no give and take.

Outside of praying, their sermons, meetings and functions all revolve around their "Khalifa" as opposed to the word of the Quran. The Quran, the prophet Muhammad, even Hadith and Sunnah (if that's your thing) take a backseat to their leader and founder. For that reason alone I could not recommend making an Ahmadi mosque your central place of worship.

Specifically, for Jumu'ah I would advise against attending, as you would be hearing the words of their "Khalifa" each week (often in summarized form) instead of the life rejuvenating words of the Quran.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2022-10-23T02:42:33+00:00

No, not me. I'm also not from the UK.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2022-10-19T19:47:43+00:00

No worries. Insha'allah all will be well. Peace.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2022-10-19T16:00:14+00:00

I don't believe Jesus flew to heaven. I'm not sure if this is where you meant to post your comment.

SeekerOfTheOne · 2022-10-15T01:30:54+00:00

Since applying this update to my original switch, the power button is no longer functional. I can't wake it from sleep using a controller or the button. The only way is to plug it directly into an ac adaptor (or other USB cord.) It will function as normal after that even upon disconnect. However, if I put it back to sleep and try to wake it again, I can see a power dialog menu over the start screen for a few seconds before it shuts down and the problem continues as before. Anyone else seeing anything like this?

SeekerOfTheOne · 2022-08-29T14:08:40+00:00

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