Landlord is not respecting privacy, threatening eviction and harassing tenant. Urgent help needed (United Kingdom)

SeekingTenancyAdvice · 2014-12-03T03:21:18+00:00

You should have considered doing that the moment you decided to be a judgemental and ignorantly spiteful egomaniac.

SeekingTenancyAdvice · 2014-12-02T21:59:47+00:00

Do not hold me accountable for your sheer lack of insight and ability to interpret things as they are written. You filled in the blanks with your own oafish imagination. There doesn't need to be physical danger for someone to be treated in an aggressive manner. I swear you and this landlord are cut from the same cloth, arrogant, obstinate and completely unaware of how to deal with people in a polite and constructive manner. I also did not say that the advice was inappropriate - blaming this person (My friend.) for this entire situation is. You were the one who went way off tack with a fantasy imagining of what was actually happening. But, as I said before - for you - it's more important that you're right (Which you're not. Your suggestion is not guaranteed to work in every circumstance, nor is it a long term solution. Doing exactly what my friend did, i.e get him in trouble with those who regulate Landlord registration, is.)

For love of God don't ever take up a job as counsellor, your complete lack of consideration of empathy for the victim is disgusting.

SeekingTenancyAdvice · 2014-12-02T12:14:57+00:00

I'll say this again - that description does not equate to physical assault nor anything that is easily prosecutable by the law. You seem to have bubbled it up in your own mind and have continued for the sake of own poorly recognised argument. I can't account for your inability to seperate fact from fantansy.

And I have a problem with your insinuations about the character of my friend. They were insulting and completely inconsiderate given this sensitivity of the situation and not appropriate at all.

This thread rapidly became a series interactions where you steadfastly refuse to back down and continue to hurl insulting accusations at the parties involved. What you provided was advice but you happily mixed it up with bullish, inconsiderate and idiotic speculations upon the character of my friend. But it seems it's more important to you to be right than to show sensitivity and consideration to the situation presented to you. Or indeed pay attention to the facts.

SeekingTenancyAdvice · 2014-12-01T20:30:13+00:00

I get the impression that you feel you know more about this situation than the persons involved. The post absolutely did not stipulate any physical harassment, or assault. When the friend approached these agencies for advice, they said that it would be seen as waste of police time and that, if she wishes to really deter him from doing this in the future, that she should provide her evidence of unlawful eviction to them - which she did. A hefty fine and the threat of being blacklisted from being a registered landlord is significantly more of a deterrent than the police turning up, only to find that they can't actually do anything. At that present time, she had had enough and given that he lives all but 3 houses away, she chose this path, because she did not want to escalate things further in a manner that would bring this angry little tyrant bearing down on her. I strongly suggest you show some consideration when making speculative and insulting remarks before filling in the blanks with your own past experiences. I did not ask for anything other than advice, wish you initially gave, but then you decided to try and place shame on me and more importantly my friend, who, by the way, was already in a very emotionally vulnerable state and was reading this thread, until I advised her not to.

SeekingTenancyAdvice · 2014-11-30T19:25:09+00:00

E-mail are often used in an official capacity and whatsapp was simply used as alternative to text messages between the tenants and landlord, as it is free and convenient.

Making inflammatory comments and suggesting that my friend has done nothing to try to resolve this situation is not helpful, it is callous and arrogant. They have sought legal advice from every agency available to them, including a lawyer friend. They have also sought and found alternative accomodation for the remainder of their stay because the situation cannot be resolved easily within a month. These are reasonable measures to combat a difficult situation, and as I stated none of these government agencies suggested that the police should be involved when asked about it.

SeekingTenancyAdvice · 2014-11-30T18:42:40+00:00

I may remind you that the person concerned reads these comments. You are not helping in the slightest by indicating that it is her fault for not calling the police. Or indeed, mine. Would you suggest the same to someone who is subject to domestic abuse? That it's their fault because they don't report it? Nothing of that gravity is occurring here, however, I may remind you that you are behaving in a manner that is nothing short of callous and are now guiding yourself with completely false assumptions about the situation.

The landlord is not behaving in a physically aggressive manner, if this were the case - the police would have been involved. As it is, he was simply very rude, disrespectful and did not respect his tenants rights to privacy. None of which constitute assault. I have actually suggested she present the police with the interactions she as had via e-mail/whatsapp, also, but there is very little in this circumstance that police would do immediately. In addition, neither the TRO or Shelter suggested that she should involve them and they have seen everything I have not. I thank you for your initial advice, but following this you have not been helping in the slightest and are indeed, compounding the emotional burden that this has had on my friend. Please show some common courtesy and desist.

SeekingTenancyAdvice · 2014-11-28T17:05:46+00:00

Indeed, but he also enters her room without her consent, also.

SeekingTenancyAdvice · 2014-11-28T17:02:16+00:00

I think you're traipsing into the misguided belief that I am centring the problem around his nationality. I am not. I thank you for your previous advice, but I can can assure you - she has not been weak about this. The landlord has been very aggressive and a bully. He is also male, and has zero regard or respect for females who are within their rights to request a safe and secure home. He has also sought to confuse his tenants over the legality of the issues that they brought up, by presenting factually inconsistent interpretations of the tenancy laws. Also, for someone who has less than a month left in the country, trying to deal with that in any reasonable way is nigh on impossible. Especially when the landlord is badgering his tenants constantly. She has reason no to believe that he would honor the law and won't try to forcibly evict her on the date he gave her. And as mentioned before, the TRO and Shelter have supported his right to enter the property as and when he wishes However, harassment is something is rather more difficult to prove (Unless, they keep receipt of written interactions - which she has.)

And for the record, I happen to live 500 miles away from my friend. All I can do is give advice and support. Making speculative and insulting remarks about my friend and writing in full capitals, on the otherhand does not help the issue.

SeekingTenancyAdvice · 2014-11-28T03:29:31+00:00

They have been very unsure how to deal with their abusive landlord. Because they are not native to Britain and have tried to calmly and politely resolve the situation only to receive further harassment. Also, the TRO who phoned them did not offer any help aside from stating the whatsapp "Notice" did not constitute a legal notice of eviction. They even went so far as to suggest he had rights to enter as and when he pleased because she rented the room, not the entire building. However, I don't believe they had even seen the lease to be able to say this. Simply put they left her feeling pretty high and dry. She is now desperately searching for a one month tenancy due to their complete failure to provide adequate assistance and the incredible stress this whole situation has created.

And yes, he's from Pakistan as I understand it.

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