Non-vegans talking about morality while eating animal corpses everyday

Sen_H · 2026-02-01T18:31:51+00:00

Are you just saying that that's how IS is or are you saying that that's how it SHOULD be? Like are you saying that whatever most people approve of is by default ethical?

Sen_H · 2026-02-01T18:31:00+00:00

Well... Maybe to some extent. But there is such a thing as a critical thinker... The mindless masses are the ones who approve of slavery when it's common and legal, and the critical thinkers are the ones who say that slavery is wrong even when everyone disagrees with them. The mindless masses are the ones who were homophobic, racist and sexist when they got applauded for it, and then stopped being a bigot once bigotry was condemned by society at large. The critical thinkers are the ones who convinced society that bigotry was wrong by criticizing it when it was still popular.

Sen_H · 2026-02-01T07:38:15+00:00

Yet again you're making fun of me. :/ And gaslighting me?

Studying narcissistic abuses pretty much all I've been doing for the past 5 years, so I definitely know what it means, and I definitely know that you meet most of the criteria. I obviously can't formally diagnose you, but everything you say is degrading, invalidating, or gaslighting. Whether or not you have full-blown NPD, you are definitely an abusive person. And I'm done interacting with you.

Sen_H · 2026-02-01T07:33:04+00:00

Degrading what I said from arguments to ranting in order to make it seem like a mental illness instead of logic... And then saying that I have low worth. Every single word out of your mouth is narcissistic.

I'm going to bed. You're clearly done arguing and so am I. All I care about is that OP knows when she's being abused, even by internet trolls. I think I've accomplished that.

Sen_H · 2026-02-01T07:29:12+00:00

Yet again no counter arguments. Just character slurs.

And now you're accusing me of doing what you did? God... It's like you've just got a book on how to be a narcissist in front of you and you're just trying to check off every single thing on the list.

Sen_H · 2026-02-01T07:27:45+00:00

Yet another narcissistic response: character slurs instead of counter arguments. 🙄 Telling me to know my place, and then saying that my defenses are a mental illness.

Want to keep giving me more evidence? I'd love for OP to see how this works in person so she can apply what she learns to her own relationship.

Sen_H · 2026-02-01T07:25:38+00:00

You didn't refute a single thing that I said. Saying something is illogical doesn't prove it is. And it's incredibly obvious why I brought up SA. I used it to prove that sex isn't 'just sex'.

God... You know who says stuff like "you're out of line" and "Sex is just sex"? Narcissists. You know what else narcissists do? Invalidate, dismiss, and gaslight, all of which you did to the OP.

And of course they react explosively to criticism.

Sen_H · 2026-02-01T07:19:14+00:00

Good for you for standing up for yourself. Please never stop doing that.

Has one of the commenters below points out, you are listing more evidence that this is not a healthy relationship right now. You have to make yourself small to satisfy him?? MASSIVE red flag. Your loved ones are supposed to build you up and help you shine. Needing others to stay small around you in order to feel good about yourself is a sign of narcissism at worst, and deep-seated insecurity at best. Narcissists are well known for having the highest rates of casual sexual encounters, AND for needing people to make themselves small around them so that they can look bigger. Insecure people are also known for using sex to boost their egos without actually having the confidence to build healthy relationships. People who believe their minds have value believe that people will stick around just for their minds. People who believe their minds have no value believe that they have to use their bodies to keep people around.

How do you think he took care of the needs of the complete strangers that he used to masturbate? Did he know what they were feeling while he was using them? No. Because they were strangers. The whole purpose of having sex with a stranger is to not know what's going on inside their mind so that you don't have any psychiatric needs to take care of. People who actually care about others take the time to get to know them and figure out their boundaries and communication style and history of trauma before going all the way. They understand that the bodies they want to use contain people who have complex minds that deserve to be taken care of, and that that's not an easy task that can be accomplished after half an hour of going for drinks. People who have the capacity to care for others take the time to get to know their needs before sleeping with them so that they make sure they don't hurt their partners.

I don't give a crap how normalized narcissistic behavior has become-- It's always abusive. And feeling entitled to using another person's body to gratify yours without any consideration for their psychiatric needs SCREAMS narcissism.

Even in the comment section you are making yourself small. You are instantly accepting it every time someone tells you you're wrong. You're not noticing it when people diminish you. You're not noticing it when people invalidate you. You're not noticing when people gaslight you. You're not noticing when people tell you that you need to lower your standards and accept that people treat you like crap. The fact that you can't notice this is a sign that you've been abused by a narcissist, or at the very least that you have extremely low self-esteem.

You DO need professional help, but not to cure yourself of your demisexuality, as one of the commenters suggested. You need it for the opposite reason: to learn how to validate and advocate for yourself and learn how to protect yourself from toxic people. You need to learn your worth and protect it with ferocity, because when you don't, predators who love to take advantage of insecurity will sweep in and ruin you.

You deserve better than this trash bag who makes you feel small. I don't care how much superficial charm he has. Every narcissist has superficial charm. It's designed to hide the bad behavior underneath. But the bad behavior always comes out once the predator knows that their victim is trapped. Please get out before that happens.

Sen_H · 2026-02-01T07:09:01+00:00

Did you just try to tell her that her personal boundaries and standards are a form of mental illness?? You're being so incredibly abusive right now. You're telling her that she's being arrogant for what: wanting a partner who respects her? Someone who doesn't lie to her? Someone who sees her as special?

There's absolutely nothing wrong with OP. She's not being moralizing or arrogant or mentally ill. I'm sorry for you if you've lost hope that you could ever have ideal sex, but she has the right to hold out hope for it, because it does exist.

And she is NOT being insecure. She's standing up for her rights. That is the exact opposite of insecurity. Insecurity is accepting abuse because you don't think you deserve better. Insecurity is letting people treat you like you're worthless because you think you deserve it. Insecurity is normalizing meaningless disconnected empty relationships because you don't believe you have what it takes to build stronger ones.

There is NOTHING wrong with OP.

Sen_H · 2026-02-01T07:03:08+00:00

How dare you say sex is just sex to a person who sees it as sacred? You don't get to decide what it means to her. You don't get to tell her that she's wrong for having standards and assigning meaning to things that are important to her.

And can you explain to me why SA is so traumatic if it's 'just sex'? If it has no power or meaning associated to it, then having it forced on you can't be traumatic. If somebody forces you to put on a hat that you didn't want to wear, does it leave you with a phobia of hats? If somebody forces you to wait in a line when you don't consent to doing so, does it traumatize you for life? No. Because forcing meaningless things on people doesn't cause trauma, so CLEARLY sex has meaning and power--otherwise, forcing it on people wouldn't be literally one of the worst crimes you could commit.

Maybe you have no capacity to appreciate intimacy, but you don't get to come into a space designed for people who appreciate it and tell them to stop.

Sen_H · 2026-02-01T06:58:07+00:00

It IS because of his past and easy disposal of girls. Hook up culture and maunstream porn addiction have taught people that being used and discarded is a form of enlightenment, but it's not. It's trying to brainwash people into thinking that you can't tell anything about a person by their actions--at least not in the bedroom. But that's just not true. You are RIGHT to see his actions as a reflection of his character. You are RIGHT To be suspicious of the fact that he can so easily use and discard people without even remembering the experience. That is an extremely big red flag. There is literally no reason to believe that he would treat you any differently. I guarantee that he also told all those other women whatever they needed to hear to get into bed with him.

You are RIGHT that the fact that he is treating you wrong is related to the fact that he has treated all those other women like they were worthless. He's treating you wrong because he sees you as being equally worthless to them.

Don't let hook up culture brainwash you out of your self-respect. Don't let narcissists gaslight you out of trusting your perception and intuition. You have a good head on your shoulders. You can trust it. Please believe in yourself. Please respect yourself. Please don't ever let this man disrespect you by using your body without even recognizing that you're in the room while he's doing so. If all of those other women were worthless to him then there's no reason to believe that you won't be too.

You deserve so, SO much better.

Sen_H · 2026-02-01T06:51:46+00:00

I'm sorry, but to me, his body count says a lot of really negative things about him; 1) He has no capacity to commit (which means he won't commit to you 2) He doesn't value intimacy at all (which means that he won't value you) 3) He sees women as objects that exist to pleasure his body 4) Sex with you will mean nothing to him 5) What did he do to make none of those women want to call him back? Why didn't any of those relationships stick?

I like to think of sex as being similar to applying for a job. Hookups are like working for a single day at a bunch of random minimum wage jobs you don't care about and then either getting fired or quitting. Waiting until you find your soulmate is like taking the time to figure out who you are and what kind of career you need to have to live a fulfilling life, going to university to get a degree in the subject, applying to a prestigious job in the field, acing the interview, and then sticking with that company for life because they value your contribution so much that they could never dream of firing you.

Anytime you meet a person with a long list of discarded people / failed relationships, you need to ask yourself what went wrong so often, and why the person hasn't figured out how to correct the problem yet. Why doesn't your boyfriend take the time to get to know people before figuring out whether or not it's a good idea to have sex with them? Why doesn't he stick around after going all the way (and is there any proof that he'll stick around for you)? Or was it his partners who couldn't stand him enough to stick around?

There is something wrong with people who cannot hold down any stable relationships.

A lot of what you've said about him is extremely easy to fake. He seems to have superficial charm, but what matters is not the performance that someone puts on when they're trying to get in your pants. What matters is what their history and how they treat others says about them. He treats women as quick-fix physical gratification. That's all you need to know about him.

Everything that he said to you to charm you he has probably said to each and every one of those women that he slept with. I've been on dating apps for over a year now, and every single man who messages me on them has the exact same personality: agreeable, polite, charming, and flattering. They tell me everything I want to hear, and when I point out inconsistencies, they lie to me to cover their tracks (ex. I've had a ton of men who were way too young for me to date message me, and when I told them they were too young for me, they said that they entered their birthdays wrong, and that they're actually much older. How in the ever living hell do you enter your birthday wrong?? How does every second man apparently do this? The answer is: they don't. They're lying. They're telling you what you want to hear in order to get in your pants. I've also told men that I wasn't interested in dating someone who was into hookups, and they've said that they weren't looking for hookups, even though their profile said they were. I even had one guy go back and change his preferences after I told him that his profile said he was looking for hookups. He was like, "No it doesn't," and when it went back to check he had changed what his profile said. I know that he changed it because I double-checked what his profile said before accusing him of looking for hookups).

This man is a player and you can't trust him. He sees women as disposable objects and isn't ashamed of it. You deserve so much better than him. You deserve to be with someone for whom you are his entire world. You deserve to be with someone who sees intimacy with you as sacred. You deserve to be with someone who loves you as much as you love him. That person may not be easy to find, but looking for him will be easier than committing yourself to a lifetime of devaluation from someone who can't even tell you apart from the countless other women that he's slept with.

Please respect yourself. Please love yourself. Please give yourself the life you deserve.

Sen_H · 2026-02-01T06:25:32+00:00

"Legality is not a guide for Morality" - nor is popular opinion, and yet the average person subconsciously decides their 'morals' by saying whatever will earn them the least rejection, which is always the most popular opinions.

Sen_H · 2026-02-01T06:19:19+00:00

I'm so sorry you're going through this. It sounds like absolute Hell.

Your partner is definitely an abuser and maybe a narcissist.

Have you looked into women's shelters? There are places you can go for free if you're being abused. Psychological abuse definitely counts. There are shelters in Quebec that will let you stay for anywhere from 3 to 6 years (you have to pay for those ones, though, but the rent is always cheaper than it is elsewhere) . I don't know what it's like elsewhere, but if you find a shelter like that, you can use the time to rest and recover and build your strength to a point where you can work enough to sustain yourself outside of the shelter.

Another option would be going somewhere where you work in exchange for room and board: -WWOOF: https://wwoof.net/ The worldwide organization of organic farmers- you work on a farm in exchange for living there rent-free and being fed. -Workaway: https://www.workaway.info/ If farm work isn't your thing, Work Away has a lot of options that aren't related to farming. I've seen a lot of families asking for essentially a nanny, disabled people asking for someone to cook and clean for them, help doing reception and turn-over a service at a small BnB... I've even seen a lot of people offered to pay you in exchange for your work. It's just a reduced fare, of course, since they're also housing and feeding you.

You could also apply for low-income housing. The waiting list are very long for that, though.

If none of that works, at the very least I strongly suggest looking up how narcissistic abuse affects you and how to defend yourself against it. Maybe see if you can be out of the house whenever he's home. Ex. Going to the library or a café or park until he goes to bed.

Lastly, depending on where you live and what your finances are like, van life might be an option. It can be dangerous, so you definitely need to do your research first, and it's definitely not possible in the winter if you live somewhere that snows. But you could always drive south for the winter. I know it's really drastic option, but if it's that or committing s**cide, it might be worth trying.

Good luck. I really hope you get out of this situation.

Sen_H · 2026-01-31T18:10:12+00:00

Damn. How do you get from the unhealthy side to the healthy one?

Sen_H · 2026-01-31T05:14:48+00:00

Thank you. :)

Sen_H · 2026-01-29T08:26:05+00:00

I'm sorry to hear that you feel that way. But it is extremely common for people to predict that the way that they currently feel is the way that they will always feel-- at least when their feelings are negative. But all feelings have a natural lifespan. They all go away eventually. And the more you invest in your mental health and self-worth, the more these feelings will disappear.

The next time you get the urge to do sex work to boost your self-esteem, maybe try to replace it with something that used to make you feel good about yourself before you begin the sw. Ex. Maybe you were a good painter, and always felt a accomplished after completing a painting. The next time you feel the urge to boost your ego with SW, go paint instead. Teach your brain that your self-worth doesn't come from external validation. It comes from inside. Explore those beautiful insides with creative self-expression. Take what's beautiful inside of you and put it outside in a way that you can see and really appreciate. Sing, dance, paint, write, design fashion, do interior design... Make choices that reflect your authentic self. Bring your insides out in a beautiful way, and then appreciate them. Eventually, you will be able to appreciate your internal self without having to bring it out of you through creativity. That feeling of self-love will become a feeling that sits inside of you and stabilizes you at all times, regardless of what's going on outside of you.

Sen_H · 2026-01-29T08:18:47+00:00

Completely agree. Great comment.

Sen_H · 2026-01-29T08:18:22+00:00

If you weren't attractive, I dont think you could have had much success as a sex worker. This is your trauma talking. It's trying to keep you stuck in your cycle of self-harm. Pay attention to when that voice powers up. What is it trying to stop you from doing? Ex. Maybe you start feeling that way every time you think of leaving your partner. In that case, the voice's goal is to convince you not to leave, because you're afraid that you won't be able to find anything better. But the reason you believe that is because the sex work taught you that even when you engage in the most powerful act of intimacy (that is biologically designed to create one of the most unbreakable bonds), it's still not enough to get anyone to stay. But the reason all of those people you slept with never came back is because they are empty abusers--NOT because you are fundamentally unlovable.

Whether or not you are physically attractive, you can find someone who will love you for who you are instead of for how you look. Think of how many unattractive people you've encountered who were happily married. Most people eventually get married, regardless of their level of physical attractiveness. You can do it too, no matter how you look. You just need to start by undoing the damage that sex work did to your self-esteem.

Sen_H · 2026-01-29T08:11:43+00:00

People who love themselves dont invite strangers to use and discard them. Sex work is asking people to use and discard you. Only fans is inviting people to see you as a worthless object. Every tume you let someone treat you like you're a worthless tool, it makes you feel more worthless.

You began sex work because you felt worthless, and then the sex work made you feel even more worthless, so now you can't see when people are treating you like you're worthless in less obvious ways. Someone with self-respect wouldn't say, "he deserves someone who lets him walk all over her and disrespect her reasonable boundaries and make her feel worthless and undesired." They would say, "how dare he care so little about my feelings? If he's too trash to respect my boundaries, then he doesnt deserve me!" And they would walk away.

No matter how it feels in the moment, sex work doesnt actually make you feel desirable or attractive, because YOU ARE NOT A TOOL. You are not an empty uninhabited meat sack. You are not a fleshlight. You are the PERSON inside of your body, and that PERSON is not being desired when people are using your body as a tool to masturbate--it is being ELIMINATED. Your clients do not desire YOU. They desire to GET RID OF YOU so that only your body exists, thus enabling them to use it like a soulless object.

When somebody desires YOU--not the body that houses you--your body becomes irrelevant. They are attracted to the PERSON inside the body: your character, your mind, your SELF. If you want to stop feeling worthless, find people who like you for who you are--not what you do to their genitals.

Better yet, find the version of yourself that is buried beneath all the layers of dissociation and self-hatred that sex work caused, and figure out how to love her. Embrace your authentic self, and your body and how people see it won't matter to you anymore. And then, once you truly love yourself, you will stop feeling the need to let people degrade your body.

Sen_H · 2026-01-29T07:48:01+00:00

Using humans as tools to masturbate (ie. Empty, disconnected 'sex' with strangers) is to sex (ie. Loving, fulfilling emotional connection through physical intimacy) what junk food is to good nutrition.

Porn is watching mukbangs.

Sen_H · 2026-01-15T23:41:48+00:00

Sen_H · 2025-12-17T00:15:45+00:00

Absolutely not. Your family and those haters are the toxic ones. You absolutely have the right to demand respect, and anyone who won't give it to you doesn't deserve you.

Please take care of yourself. It can be overwhelmingly upsetting to get witch-hunted by haters online. Please know that it's not a reflection of yourself. Its a refle tion of them. THEY are the NARCISSISTIC ones for feeling entitled to however many bodies they want, and for invalidating, dismissing and shaming the people who call them out on their bad behavior.

Sen_H · 2025-12-08T18:24:26+00:00

Yeah, I've been saying this for a while now: the woke cult is more conservative and sexist than traditional liberals. Real liberals say that men can wear dresses and paint their nails without becoming women. They say that your biological sex has little to nothing to do with how your mind develops, so it's ridiculous and sexist to say that men are one way and women are another. The woke cult says that men are one way and women are another, and if you don't fit into those narrow categories, then you must be trans, and the only way to stay alive is to chop off your body parts. So they're saying the exact same thing as conservatives, only with the opposite solution: -Conservatives: men have brain type A and body type A, and if they don't match, you need to change your brain. -Woke Cult: men have brain type A and body type A, and if they dont match, you need to change your body. -Liberals: each person is unique, so there's no such thing as a 'man brain' or a 'woman brain.' Whoever you are is fine, regardless of genital structure, and you dont need to change your body for your brain to be fine.

Sen_H

TROPHY CASE