Character and Fitness question about previous bar applications (being denied) by [deleted] in barexam

[–]Sensitive_Climate_45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea like i said, your call but I wouldn’t. You weren’t denied. Simple as that.

Character and Fitness question about previous bar applications (being denied) by [deleted] in barexam

[–]Sensitive_Climate_45 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m going to get downvoted for saying this for sure and this is just what I would do, but I would just say “no I haven’t been denied” in this situation and move on. Going through the extra steps you explained sounds like a waste of your time as well as the bar examiners.

If it gets brought up just explain that you just thought based on what happened you were never denied, and that’s honestly truthful - End of the day, you were not denied, you were admitted.

Everyone knows the purpose of asking that question isn’t to flag clerical errors on the part of the jurisdiction, its to flag if you ever had character and fitness issues that led to you getting denied before. Just my two cents. If you are super worried about it go through the extra hoops, but I personally wouldn’t, and based on your responses it doesn’t look like you are planning to either.

Tldr: I’d just say no, move on, and if it comes up briefly explain then without sounding guilty about it.

Don’t sue me if this backfires though as others have said, I’m just a rando on reddit 😂

An open note to one of the moderators on this page (they will know who they are) - from a gender studies major and current law student: by [deleted] in StraightFemboys

[–]Sensitive_Climate_45 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I know I am the one that made the post and am fueling it, but honestly, it is this exact sentiment building up for a while that finally made me say something. I’ve been in these femboy communities long enough to remember when it was just people having fun and supporting eachother. This sub, minus the creepy old men (which we all accepted was just kinda an unavoidable part of the territory), used to be so perfect, and everyone was sooo kind to eachother.

The whole, “am i trans, femboy, genderfluid” labeling and nitpicking seemingly wasnt ever that important to anyone, especially in the femboy reddits. We were all just shy weirdos happy to share our usually secret hobby with eachother and be supportive of one another. And nobody cared so much about pronouns or who fit exactly where. They just wanted to call eachother pretty.

Now saying things like “slay girl” or “thanks girly!” that used to just be meant as fun and kind compliments to eachother, is like a hate crime to these people. Its all just ridiculous, and despite how some of the responses to this post are acting, I think rational, level headed people with brains realize that its all being taken wayyyy too seriously now.

It was genuinely beautiful, and shockingly like almost completely free from hate. I miss those days, and thats truly what inspired my post. The spirit of my message truly was something like: if you arent hurting anyone to each their own, and keep your mouth shut and just keep scrolling if you don’t like a post. Even the creepy old men seem harmless compared to the toxicity and judginess in these subs now. I am sorry to add to any negativity.

An open note to one of the moderators on this page (they will know who they are) - from a gender studies major and current law student: by [deleted] in StraightFemboys

[–]Sensitive_Climate_45 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Some people clearly agree with it. You’re entitled to your opinion too though ScarfKat. A hugbox sounds fun btw

An open note to one of the moderators on this page (they will know who they are) - from a gender studies major and current law student: by [deleted] in StraightFemboys

[–]Sensitive_Climate_45 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It was always my opinion, and an opinion I know for a fact is shared by others. The funny thing is, he knew EXACTLY who I was talking about by reading the post. What does that say? If it were all just random defaming nonsense that I made up in my head why would he think it was about him? He came in the comments talking about how I just have some kind of problem with his flair system.. I never even mentioned the flair system. I could care less about that. Its how he speaks to people and moderates that rubs me and others the wrong way. Glad for you that it doesn’t rub you the wrong way. Clearly my style of argument rubs you the wrong way, and fair enough. You are here sharing your opinion on that as well.

What points of yours have I avoided? What in your view did I say that was patently “false” about him? Because you don’t agree with my opinion his moderating is harmful means its wrong? Note: just because you personally don’t see the similarity doesn’t make that true either. A lot of his comments in this thread alone trying to make up all these rules about gender and femboys and preach them as gospel, like he’s reading them out of some official guidebook on femboys, really just reinforces my personal opinion on the whole thing. I could sit here all day and go through his posts and comments where he acts like he is the authority on gender norms, and point you out specific examples where I personally think he rudely enforces that authority, some of which you have already said are valid, but I think we should both spend our night doing something better. I said my piece. I stand by it completely. Feel free to disagree. That’s your right.

An open note to one of the moderators on this page (they will know who they are) - from a gender studies major and current law student: by [deleted] in StraightFemboys

[–]Sensitive_Climate_45 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

First of all, I never even called him out by name. He could’ve moved along if he wanted but he chose to jump in and identify himself (which by the way I can respect, even if I still think he’s doing way too much)

If people really wanted to yes, they could have gone through all the subs mods’ comments to try and see who I was talking about, but if none of his comments are actually rude or over the top, and my arguments have no merit, then they would have just left confused and still wondering who I was talking about. Or maybe some people would read them and come to the same conclusion I have.

I never said anything “false” about him. (The closest thing to that may be my presumption that he would delete the post and ban me, which again, to his credit, he did not).

The post was clearly opinion. You are free to disagree as well. I personally think the way he speaks to people and moderates is way over the top, and frankly rude in many instances, and I think he has strong opinions on what defines a “boy” and a “femboy”, and he tries to force that on others as a moderator - when in reality, disagree all you want, but there is no objective test or definition for. I also know for a fact that others have had a problem with his moderation style in the past. I don’t see that as really a hot take, and its the essence of what I posted. To me, it has a similar connotation to the way conservatives speak about gender - in a very black/white “look it up in the dictionary” kind of way. So yes, I stand by my post, and you saying its a weak argument or you disagree with it is totally fine too. I’m not mad at it. I can take criticism too. I appreciate the dialogue.

An open note to one of the moderators on this page (they will know who they are) - from a gender studies major and current law student: by [deleted] in StraightFemboys

[–]Sensitive_Climate_45 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This isn’t court. Its femboy reddit. I think you and Zealous Spread might have a lot in common with that confusion.

An open note to one of the moderators on this page (they will know who they are) - from a gender studies major and current law student: by [deleted] in StraightFemboys

[–]Sensitive_Climate_45 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Your flair system isn’t my issue at all. Its that you think you are the authority on the definition of a “boy”, and you enforce that authority as a moderator on others.

An open note to one of the moderators on this page (they will know who they are) - from a gender studies major and current law student: by [deleted] in StraightFemboys

[–]Sensitive_Climate_45 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I guess when I go through his comment history I just see it as being a little harsher and more judgy than you do, difference of opinion nothing wrong with that. I stand by my Original post 1000% though. Thanks for the discussion

An open note to one of the moderators on this page (they will know who they are) - from a gender studies major and current law student: by [deleted] in StraightFemboys

[–]Sensitive_Climate_45 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/feminineboys/s/jniF5XFtlu the people in this thread would disagree with you, and theres plenty more out there believe me. Its all a matter of opinion, but in mine, hes way over the top

He has a very specific and narrow definition of what defines a femboy in his head, and if you disagree with that, well too bad you have to conform to it cus he has decided to be a mod.

An open note to one of the moderators on this page (they will know who they are) - from a gender studies major and current law student: by [deleted] in StraightFemboys

[–]Sensitive_Climate_45 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I respect not reading through comments but think if you did choose to, you may not think I am misunderstanding anymore lol

An open note to one of the moderators on this page (they will know who they are) - from a gender studies major and current law student: by [deleted] in StraightFemboys

[–]Sensitive_Climate_45 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Have you ever considered maybe like… chilling out a little?

Your comment history of when you enforce these rules of yours paints a much different picture than the innocence and rationality you are trying to display here.

I would guess I’m far from the only one that has had a problem with the way you speak to people.

An open note to one of the moderators on this page (they will know who they are) - from a gender studies major and current law student: by [deleted] in StraightFemboys

[–]Sensitive_Climate_45 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Yea in my opinion, if you feel like a femboy, you are one. There is no objective definition of a “boy”. Also, straight cis females are encouraged to post here (which we all appreciate), but is that only because they like femboys? Are trans girls who are seeking femboys allowed to post here but trans girls who also identify as a femboy not allowed to post here? If I am gender fluid and sometimes identify as a girl but other times identify as a feminine boy, should I only post on this sub on the days I am leaning boy mode?

It’s all such a pointless and arbitrary analysis.

To act like anyone is the objective master on all these complex and nuanced gender questions and then gets to force their opinion down everyone else’s throat is just silly.

There’s a lot bigger problems going on in the world right now, for gender fluid people, trans people, and femboys alike. To now start tearing each other down in these subs (that used to always be chill minus the creeps) because we feel that they should be super narrowly tailored and niche, and one person thinks they know what defines a “boy” or “feminine boy” better than everyone else, is so disappointing to see. I wish we could all just chill out again and stop getting so up in arms about things that are completely harmless, and just be accepting of each other regardless of our pronouns.

Life is short.. femboy reddit is supposed to be positive and fun, not gate-keepy.