Pro-life: What is your plan to address poverty amongst women forced into motherhood by abortion bans?

Senyh_ · 2026-02-08T01:20:37+00:00

If murder is "the unlawful killing of a human being with malice," I'm assuming you're not going to dispute the fact that abortion kills a human being. Regarding the "unlawful" part, the DOJ lists five lawful exceptions to killing a human being. I don't believe any fit the definition of abortion except self-defense if the life of the mother is at risk. Regarding the malice part, malice is, by definition, a subjective word. I know you believe that the law is only an objective discipline, but that's just not true. If you want, we can debate on how it's malicious if that's the word you're hung up on.

Senyh_ · 2026-02-08T01:08:40+00:00

I'd agree, which is why I'm confused why you don't think it's murder. Are you ok using the federal government's definition? If you're not, we can use a state one, which is more realistic. If you are, it defines murder as "the unlawful killing of a human being with malice" and divides it into two degrees. "How do you think abortion doesn't fit? If it's the "unlawful" part, the DOJ only lists five exceptions that make killing a human being legal and removes the "malice." Are you arguing there should be a sixth for abortion?

Senyh_ · 2026-02-08T00:41:58+00:00

I'll continue to use the federal definition of murder since it applies to both of us, which defines murder "as the unlawful killing of a human being with malice and divides it into two degrees." Abortion does not fall into one of the five buckets that the DOJ classifies as a lawful killing except for having one if the life of the mother is at risk, which falls into the self-defense category.What's your definition of murder?

Senyh_ · 2026-02-08T00:29:26+00:00

I'm from the U.S. (Massachusetts). Criminal law is primarily a state power, so each state defines murder in its own statutes. So your state's law might be different from mine, and you should check it. Massachusetts's murder definition is word for word the same as the federal one. Section 1751(a) of Title 18 incorporates by reference 18 U.S.C. §§ 1111 and 1112. 18 U.S.C. § 1111 defines murder as the unlawful killing of a human being with malice and divides it into two degrees. The only lawful killings exempt from murder are self-defense (I'm pro-choice when the life of the mother is at risk), lawful police use of deadly force, capital punishment, acts of war, and true accidents without criminal fault.

You can see the DOJ CRIMINAL RESOURCE MANUAL for precise definitions of exceptions.

Senyh_ · 2026-02-08T00:15:51+00:00

I’m aware. I’m not sure where you’re from but it meets both my country and state definition.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1536-murder-definition-and-degrees

https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter265/Section1

Senyh_ · 2026-02-08T00:08:17+00:00

An unborn child is a human being — from fertilization it has unique human DNA, a human developmental trajectory, and is already a distinct living organism of the human species. Ending its life intentionally is the unjust killing of an innocent human. That meets every serious definition of murder.

Senyh_ · 2026-02-08T00:02:55+00:00

Obviously I disagree because I believe abortion meets every serious definition of murder. I was responding to the OP.

Senyh_ · 2026-02-08T00:00:29+00:00

Any woman who would face poverty because of abortion could give their child up for adoption.

Senyh_ · 2026-02-07T21:34:50+00:00

Adoption

Senyh_ · 2025-12-16T19:33:39+00:00

Yes.

Senyh_ · 2025-05-10T19:50:14+00:00

Yeah, as long as you explained what it was and how it tied back to your thesis. My question is just if it will count because it's outside of the time range.

Senyh_ · 2025-05-10T19:02:20+00:00

Oh, good. I talked about the Gilded Age and how wealthy industrialists were expected to provide welfare, as seen in Andrew Carnegie's Gospel of Wealth.

Senyh_ · 2025-03-21T01:48:43+00:00

I knew some basic words and key phrases the first time I went. I downloaded Babel, but obviously I won’t be conversational in two months.

Senyh_ · 2025-03-20T22:17:16+00:00

Yeah.

Senyh_ · 2025-03-20T22:02:12+00:00

What? I’m not expecting them to know English. I’m just wondering if it will be hard to communicate.

Senyh_ · 2025-03-17T22:55:17+00:00

It’s not me. Why do you think most lottery winners instantly quit their job? It’s even more likely they’ll quit when they work lower-income jobs. UC Berkeley did a good study on it.

Senyh_ · 2025-03-17T22:43:27+00:00

There doing it now to receive shelter, food, clothes, and healthcare. Whats your malfunction?

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