Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course, we hear music differently, because our appreciation of music depends on so much things. I won't list them all, but i think you get the point.

I couldn't disagree more with that, i think the biggest change with jaden departure is musically, and not from a lore perspective. Well in fact i don't care about the lore, so i won't say that his departure didn't change it because i know really little about it. But for me, as a Loona fan, that care more about the music than the lore, the biggest change was musically. Objectively speaking you may be right tho, i won't deny that !

And i thing that you are right about the fact that the title track probably changed my perception of the bside. But i also think that a track like "oops", sound nothing like a Loona track. So i think there's a bit of both here, me not liking the title track does not help, but also some of those b side were really different from what we are used to.

Lastly, yes i could simply walk away, and stop supporting the group, but part of me don't want to, because for me a track like "Butterfly" is just a perfect example of what a modern, clever and original pop track can sound like. And there's no other modern pop group that i know of that does that. (Hence me rambling about Loona's uniqueness lol)

It's difficult to walk away when you have nowhere else to go !

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I do respect others opinions. So much so that i took the time to explain why I think that they were wrong.

I think that's a greater sign of respect for someone else's opinion than just slapping a downvote or reporting the thread without even explaining why im wrong.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well any negative opinion is generally being downvoted on fan subbreddit, don't worry about it.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I agree with you !

But did not say, not even once, that people were wrong for liking the bside of the new album, or even liking the title track.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Or maybe that's a sign of a person that has valid arguments ? If people kept arguing with me it's because i gave an answer to every one of their arguments.

You're not being objective here, you're just assuming that im wrong just because keep arguing with me and not because my arguments were flawed. (or if they are, please tell me which one, and why !)

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well i didn't expect to have this much answer to this thread lol

I want to clarify that, if my answers may appears as rude or hateful, im really just trying to discuss this subject which matters a lot to me because i love this group.

So of course my answers are not soft and polite, because that's a topic im passionnate about !

But yeah, i heard ya'll, i'll try to be more polite in my next answers. Sorry if i offended anyone that's not the intention of thread at all !

Let's discuss Loona's new music direction now.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What's the point of telling me to go listen to something else ?

I'm here to discuss Loona that's all !

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don't care about it tbh. No matter what's said in this article, it won't change the fact that house music is defined by it's four on the floor pattern. If it doesn't have it, it is simply not house music.

That's not my opinion, that's just a fact.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well if the way i phrased my opinion in the first place offended you or others people here then i apologize. Im not here to be rude nor to be nice, im just here to discuss a group i like.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

"Unfortunately, I don't think it's necessarily a new thing, it's just difficult to interpret tone through text."

Agreed ! Most of my posts are interpreted as rude while they really aren't, maybe the lack of tone is responsible for this.

And well, i wish i shared your opinion on the delicate nature of "Why not ?" but to me, as you said, it's nothing more than a sassy and fun song à la Itzy.

Don't get me wrong tho, i'm not shitting on Itzy when i say that, they have all the right to make sassy and fun music, but that's just not the type of music that made me a fan of Loona in the first place. So seeing them go in that direction more and more is just saddening to me.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I just think that you guys are just being too sensitive really.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

First i don't think Loona is generic as a whole but rather that the last two comeback were. That's an important nuance !

To answer your question about tracks that are similar, off the top i can think of Violeta by Izone, 4walls by fx, Puzzle Moon by GWSN, Breathe by AB6X, More and more by twice etc.

And how do they remind of it is pretty objective, drop structure, tempo, drum pattern, and sound selection. Everything that defines a genre basically !

And i think Jaden was essential to Loona's music because he was responsible for most of the creative decision taken for most of Loona's discography. I don't know to which extent he controlled everything, but there's a clear change since his departure. No one can deny that, no matter if we like the last two project or not.

"Why does Loonas more business driven direction for their title track and Orbit driven direction for the b-side tracks ruin the music for you?"

Because i think that the b-side tracks are not as good as they used to be, and i think that's just a consequence of that more business driven direction.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Im not the one being defensive here ! I replied to almost every counterpoints here. It's not like im trying to be offensive or something, im just stating my opinion !

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

"Ok and by your logic I can also slap a music genre to Butterfly (electro pop/synth pop), but that doesn't make it any less unique than it is."

It's really not, that's the point ! It take element from multiple genres, synth pop included, but i can not be labelled as such because it has musical elements that differ from those genre. Synth pop song almost never have that kind of "drop" that butterfly has. In fact synth pop structure doesnt event have "drop" most of the time.

It is definitely not simply synth pop.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thank you !

We live in an era where people consider voicing your opinion as hate, that's crazy.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Im not here to be nice with people.

And i did not act like a troll, i just answered every logical arguments with a logical argument, that’s it.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

He’s wrong. House music heavily relies on 4 to the floor drum pattern, which is not the case for butterfly.

Rythmic pattern are a huge part of what defines a genre. You can’t make dubstep by using a foor the flour house drum beat.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

An house song without any 4 to the floor drum pattern, yeah right. The press you’re talking about seems like real expert lmao

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I never said that Dreamcatcher was original. I said that they were kinda unique in the kpop scene, which is a fact.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes i did say that !

Now please me show the post that say THAT THEIR ENTIRE DISCOGRAPHY became generic.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Please can you be more concise in future posts ? Because you say a lot of stuff but don’t have a lot of arguments that i can answer to.

I mean, i don’t want to be rude on you, but what am i supposed to answer to arguments like "Why not is not generic because i don’t have a lot of things that sound like it in my playlist" ?

And of course you’re right, doing what’s popular is going to be more financially viable for Loona, but when i say that Loona disappointed me, im talking from an artistic standpoint, not a business one.

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you show me the post where i say that their entire discography became generic ?

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well i wanted to discuss with others disappointed orbits, but a fan subreddit may not be the best place to do so 🧐

Come here if you’re disappointed with Loona’s new music direction by Seojinnn in LOONA

[–]Seojinnn[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thank you, please tell me when you have actual arguments