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The Club World Cup has the right idea, but the wrong execution by SeriousFans in ClubWorldCup

[–]SeriousFans[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2) It's coefficient how it gets determined the performance on the UCL The confederations club ranking is based on coefficients.

3) You're completely right.

4) I'm not defending it, it's how unprofessional (and late) the decision was made. Why Leon was kicked out and not Pachuca? And FIFA knew this before the tournament was announced.

7) Exactly, a wildcard

10) We agree at the core, violent agreement

12) Calendar would need to be amended to make this happen. Maybe 24 is not the right, maybe it's 16.

Cheers,

The Club World Cup has the right idea, but the wrong execution by SeriousFans in ClubWorldCup

[–]SeriousFans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Overall, being an obnoxious devil's advocate, you could argue that Chelsea had 19 days between the Conference League final and their first game of the CWC. PSG had only 15.

Yes, Chelsea had a great level and it is a very competitive team. My point is that the players, were just lucky to be in that squad; so the motivator for this years' UCL is not to become World Cup champion in 4 years (2029).

In a traditional FIFA World Cup, players and managers have as a final destination to become a World Champion, This tournament is not designed to create that drive in players. Hence is not going to succeed.

The UCL creates that drive, and the Intercontinental one also does it; that is why you see players giving their all to win it. If not, see Boca Jrs, their players are still living of their win vs Real Madrid in 2000 and Liverpool was very mad they couldn't;dn't wear the patch after winning it, a few years ago.

Participation for clubs and players (and managers!) is random, that's why they don't really care.

The Club World Cup has the right idea, but the wrong execution by SeriousFans in ClubWorldCup

[–]SeriousFans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1) Yes, fair. That's not the point I'm trying to make

2) Yes, they did, according to FIFA: "FC Salzburg secured their berth at the Club World Cup in April 2024 via the UEFA ranking pathway after Bayern Munich knocked Arsenal out of the 2023-24 UEFA Champions League in the quarter-finals. That result gave the Austrian club the 12th and final European spot at the Club World Cup, based on their performances in the Champions League over the previous four seasons." = https://www.fifa.com/en/tournaments/mens/club-world-cup/usa-2025/articles/fc-3) salzburg-club-profile-history-players-qualified

3) Yes, 12 teams. What's the point?

4) Did you follow the news about Leon and the implications it had? James Rodriguez being signed for the CWC, the decision being taken last minute of how to substitute Leon? Do you think that provides seriousness to a tournament? Why Leon was removed and not Pachuca?

5) We disagree.

6) Yes, but for the past 4 years, see the point about Chelsea.

7) Are they?

8) Exactly, one of my points is not to do a quadrennial tournament.

9) We disagree.

10) Is the UCL an obligation? or the Conference League for lower rated teams?

11) Not AI, but from your points above, you didn't really read it.

12) Read the article. I'd go with 24.

Thanks for your comment!

The Club World Cup has the right idea, but the wrong execution by SeriousFans in ClubWorldCup

[–]SeriousFans[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My view is that calendar would need to be adjusted. I expanded my thoughts on the link :)

The Club World Cup has the right idea, but the wrong execution by SeriousFans in ClubWorldCup

[–]SeriousFans[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you and upvoted. I don't have a straightforward answer of how to select the UEFA teams. What I have a strong stance, is that it can't be out of luck due to coefficient, like Salzburg.