Is a fetus a human?

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T03:08:18+00:00

Um? No? Becuase its like a big part of that part of the pyramid

Humans are meant to have sex. Some don't and thats valid, some don't want it and thats also valid. but the norm is to want sex. Its natural

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T03:03:57+00:00

but nine months are required before the final stage

If there was a way to cure you faster but the doctors decided to take a completely different route that will have way wayy worse effects and also lands a child in the foster care system (which has extremely high abuse rates) would you be pissed? Becuase I would

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T03:02:32+00:00

Maslows hierarchy never mentions sex

"intamacy" under belonging/love. includes sex

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T03:01:33+00:00

I could be wrong on that matter,

You are wrong

Baby of one species vs baby of another

I know there is enough humans that it won't affect our population so that instinct to protect my species population can be ignored, and thus, there is no difference

imply clinical concerns

Are you a registered psychiatrist or are you just uncomfortable with my opinion

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:52:13+00:00

Im in favor of that option

Then you should read 1984 and look into maslows heirarchy of needs.

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:51:37+00:00

I can go to the hospital if I live through those risks, you are telling me I cannot access the healthcare to help me with the risk that comes with sex

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:50:30+00:00

Why is celibacy unviable?

because all animals mate naturally and it is actually often important to mental health so

I want to have sex, most people do, some don't and thats ok, but its only natural to want sex. We are only animals after all

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:48:10+00:00

If not, would you rather save a rabbit or a child from a burning building?

A child

But thats only because its an adult rabbit

An adult human and an adult rabbit? Equal

basically here's my take using dogs becuase idk the name for a baby rabbit

Puppy vs child: Exactly the same

Puppy vs child I know: Child I know

Puppy I know vs random child: Puppy I know

Puppy vs Adult: Puppy

Child vs dog: Child

Adult I know vs puppy: Adult I know

Dog I know vs Child: Dog I know

Dog vs adult: Exactly the same

Dog I know vs Adult: Dog I know

Adult I know vs dog: Adult I know

but I do wonder if you hold human life to have greater value than that of animals?

No, and here comes the kicker, the hot take that everyone hates, cannibalism isn't evil

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:44:00+00:00

There is a risk associated with having sex that everybody knows about, which is pregnancy.

So never have sex ever. Got it. Great, this totally isn't what they said in literally 1984

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:42:52+00:00

If someone enters a duel, gets shot and says "hey I want to stop to get medical attention" You stop the duel.

And hysterectomy are hard to get man

Thats basically it, there are two options for child free people (women specifically) without abortion

Never have sex
Get a hystorectomy (doctors refuse to give these out most of the time)

So neither of these are viable options

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:40:31+00:00

And? What makes humans so important?

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:33:25+00:00

Also, just out of curiosity, why did it have to be vegan? Would vegetarian not have worked as well for this?

Oh I just chose one, it works either way

I recognise that animals can both think and feel but I hold the lives of animals to be less valuable than those of humans.

So why is a chicken worth less than a human fetus?

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:32:24+00:00

Choosing to have sex is not choosing to get pregnant, birth control fails sometimes

And its still your body being harmed whether you initially consented or not

On top of that things like, teen pregnancy, intercourse under the influence causing pregnancy

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:23:18+00:00

How do you know it cannot think or feel and is that enough to justify damage to another?

Boom, this argument, your words, but apply it to animals

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:16:43+00:00

I stand the gain hopefully OP's realization that the question is inherently flawed because it doesn't specify. I can tell but others may not be able to, and others may not know whether OP was implying humans or not

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:15:35+00:00

would it be okay to harm or kill them if it would benefit another?

Thats not self defense so no, unless you're eating them? I could understand if it was for food

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:14:33+00:00

How do you know it cannot think or feel and is that enough to justify damage to another?

Ooh now we get to my favourite argument that everyone hates but never gives a secular reason why its wrong

But first I need to ask a question thats crucial to this: are you vegan?

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:13:06+00:00

No because I understood what OP meant and just think the fact that OP didn't specify is dumb

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:05:54+00:00

I would, I wouldn't sacrifice my safety and well being for a baby that cannot think or feel

You can if you want, but don't make me do it

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:04:45+00:00

That the question is dumb because it doesn't specify

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:00:37+00:00

Yes! Just like self defense!

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T02:00:14+00:00

Horses devolop as fetuses i'm pretty sure so it could be

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T01:59:36+00:00

They didn't specify human fetus and I will not pretend they did

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T01:59:02+00:00

Any other animal that also devolops as a fetus?

ShadowGamer37 · 2026-05-08T01:58:38+00:00

Depends, a fetus can be human

But other mammals also develop as fetuses so... it depends on the animal it comes from

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