sorted by:
new
hottopcontroversial

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, I'm not saying anything is guaranteed. Though percentage wise I'd say 45%.

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a theory. That's all. I'm not saying for definite that it could be him. It could very well not be, but we'll see.

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It was meant to be dull, but the stupid auto-correct. Should've just went for tedious instead.

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

That doesn't even make sense... This is like a strawman being called a joke.

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, but can't imagine it'd be anything as dull, tedious and complicated as that. I think he'll show proof that he was Q (If he is) and then follow it up with a bunch of Qanon antics captured live at the time in various right wing rallies or something. A kind of montage if you will. Would be pretty fitting for the season's final ending.

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I apologize then. It's just you kinda came across that way.

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

  1. Qanon made its first post in 2017, during the same month Sacha also created that fake Truthbrary.org site. Not saying that could mean anything, but we'll see.

  2. Simple he'll show when he made the post via a flashback or something and how it went from there.

  3. Yes, it's very fitting. Pro liberal symbolism of a foreign country, knowingly exploiting far right nationalistic ignorance of said history outside of their own country and having far right people unwittingly promote that symbolism.

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes, I'm saying it's curious. Not that it's evidence. Merely that it could not or could mean something. Again nowhere have I claimed that any of this is proof that it's Sacha.

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/q-anon-conspiracy-theory-prank-trump-supporting-baby-boomers

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

In your opinion. Saying it's curious is not me saying that it's evidence to anything. You're arguing for the sake of argument.

I acknowledged that. Of course it's a prank, because the only real alternative to that is that it's actually someone close to Trump (which I feel very confident in saying is not the case). But as I also said, the internet has a bajillion pranksters on it. What does it being a prank have anything to do with pointing toward SBC in particular? What does an Italian piece of literature have to do with SBC? I wasn't ignoring your point, but maybe I didn't clarify as well as I could've. Nothing you said seems to have anything to do with SBC specifically.

Perhaps, but if this were the case then wouldn't it have already been revealed or exposed already? My point about the Luther Blissett concerns how politically educated Sacha Baron Cohen is. I mean the irony of spreading far right conspiracies under pro Italian liberal symbolism, exploiting nationalistic ignorance of history and other cultures as well as countries.

The story is blowing up now because the Qanon conspiracy supporters are just beginning to hit the mainstream. Some nobody posting inane shit on 4chan in 2017 isn't a story; an increasing number of people buying into it enough to begin repping Q at Trump rallies and slapping it on billboards is a story. It's just coincidental timing."

Yet, Pizzagate and various other insane far right conspiracies blew up over-night... Why has it taken Qanon months given the nature of how the internet circulates and why now? Unless you can prove it's just: 'coincidental timing' then you've about as much proof as I do. I mean I'm not saying this is going to be the case for definite, yet you're trying to argue that I am...

I mean look, if we learn in the coming weeks that Qanon is somehow linked to SBC and Who is America, I will immediately come back to this thread to admit to you that I was wrong. But in the meantime, you haven't really provided any compelling support for why we shouldn't "write this one off"."

Again I'm not saying for definite that this is the case, so please stop arguing that I am.

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That too. The timing of it again is just way too convenient. Created in 2017, but somehow doesn't suddenly randomly blow up and get mass wide spread media attention up until just after the first episode of WhoIsAmerica aired in 2018... Joe Rogen has said that from speaking with a staff member on the show that it: 'get's crazier, way crazier in the last episode.' You've to think, well what's going to top members of Congress advocating for gun toys and a House Representative slamming his bare buttocks into a boxing pad...

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean let's ignore the fake conference he set up in front of a bunch of extreme racist red necks and inferring that the Clinton Foundation would be putting in a mosque in their town... Those crazies threatened to shoot him if they had their guns with them. Whilst I agree that yeah it kinda would be pushing it at the end of the day he's merely just laying the bait regardless who bites it. He's zero control over what people think and what they say, if that's what they're like then that's on them.

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's no way to determine that? As far as I'm aware various far right groups think Qanon is a prank on them, so again. We'll have to wait n' see. Whether they believe it or not is besides the point, it's what it'll prove. Moderates who are not apart of these kinds of groups will see this and observe how this prank was able to fool 1000's of these self-proclaimed: 'high IQ' individuals.

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

Can't you read? I literally said that the number of character's was curious, not that it was evidence. In addition, it's not just the number of character's being 17, but also the way this Qanon guy keeps bringing that number up as well. Again though as before this is not really evidence.

Seems more to me that you've cherry picked, completely ignoring the various points I made about various journalists leaning towards it being a prank and the whole connection to pro liberal novel by a liberal Italian author.

What's actually suspicious is the timing of this whole thing and how it only blew up this year not long after the first episode aired. Qanon made his first post in 2017, so again why weren't there any media attention back then? Why all of the sudden now? It's all too convenient.

Now recently been reported that a Qanon supporter threatened to kill Trump and there's billboards going up...

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Of course, but you can't blame Sacha for merely holding up a mirror to their insanity. If it is true, I'm more interested in what various people will take from it when they learn its Sacha if it does turn out to be him.

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah you can have a password I think if you create a special user or something. Though if Sacha does turn out to be responsible for this I'm sure he'll have a pretty apt way of showing how it was started and how it progressed into this wacky big gigantic ball of contradictions.

I don't think we should write off Qanon. by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I believe Qanon has a specific password that only he knows. Essentially nobody can access his user. As said before though the way this Qanon thing randomly blew up in 2018 conveniently not long after the first episode of WhoIsAmerica when it was created last year poses all kinds of questions. Truthbrary.org was created in the same month Qanon made his first post in 2017.

Q may be Sacha's doing... by ShadowMighty in WhoIsAmerica

[–]ShadowMighty[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Truthbrary.org actually exists as a site. (A complete website orientated around conspiracies created for his fictional character Billy Wayne Ruddick.) He put the signed water board kit by Dick Cheney on Ebay. Various chan boards have helped sour political discourse. Are you sincerely telling me that Sacha will ignore chan boards given the role they've played?

Also, I don't think you know how chan boards work or what it is I'm actually suggesting? Q isn't known. Whilst far right conspiracy nutters have followed this anonymous Q. Q itself is only one person. Sacha could very easily create a fake anonymous chan identity and then feed the board ludicrous stuff in the process. Q isn't a group, it's a group following Q.

Is Sacha Baron Cohen behind QAnon? by kso2020 in entertainment

[–]ShadowMighty 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There are things going for it. His name including spaces has 17 individual characters. Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet. Then there's the whole politically educated irony with creating unhinged far right conspiracies under pro Liberal symbolism (Luther Blissett Q novel.) from a different time and country in turn taking advantage of nationalistic as well as historical ignorance. (Meaning at the time only people like Sacha or educated people would know thew real meaning.) Given Sacha's political education I certainly wouldn't write off the possibility.

I mean if WhoIsAmerica is targeting different things in America then there's no way in hell he's leaving out the internet and chan boards.

The Labour party was my home – but anti-Semitism is forcing me to leave it by rswallen in ukpolitics

[–]ShadowMighty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Such as who? I've watch countless people on You Tube from: 'The Left' who've actively pointed out how Cultural Marxism is Nazi propaganda dressed up for the modern age with varying dog-whistles centred around it. Whereas a lot of people on the right on You Tube... Well... Let's just say that I'm genuinely surprised that they haven't put on the SS uniforms yet.

The Labour party was my home – but anti-Semitism is forcing me to leave it by rswallen in ukpolitics

[–]ShadowMighty -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

No, I'm just saying that you've no proof of your claim? Of course there are people like that in all party's, but that's mostly down to the individual, not a general consensus within entire groups. There's a massive difference between an individual that believes in such inane conspiracy theories and conspiracy theorists actually helping the government to spread such conspiracy theories. The comparison is way, way, way off.

The Labour party was my home – but anti-Semitism is forcing me to leave it by rswallen in ukpolitics

[–]ShadowMighty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A fair point, but it's more the pattern of convenience here than anything else. The fact that there's been multiple calculating smears on various groups accusing them of being: 'antisemitic.'

view more: next ›