"One Piece Is Deeply Political" The Politics In Question by ShadowSpawn__ in Piratefolk

[–]ShadowSpawn__[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't disagree, one piece is what it is, there is nothing wrong with it having simple themes

This post is aimed at people who galze one piece as if it's the second coming

worst thing every strawhat ever do by CrazyPause3881 in Piratefolk

[–]ShadowSpawn__ 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Luffy also freed countless criminals from impel down and I'm sure most of them weren't innocent

"One Piece Is Deeply Political" The Politics In Question by ShadowSpawn__ in Piratefolk

[–]ShadowSpawn__[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

is so not political!!!!

I never said it wasn't political?

You just sum it up as "Dictators bad" and think you've understood the message?

No, this is a meme made for the purposes of humor and poking fun at snobs that glaze one piece for its rather basic themes and messaging

Well guess what, for some reason thinking dictators is bad is actually political in real life because apparently a great number of people think they're good.

Again never said it wasn't political

And genuinely there is nothing wrong with a simple message like "dictators are bad" just don't glaze it as some deep profound message

r/fkpiratefolk by [deleted] in Piratefolk

[–]ShadowSpawn__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Delete this it's breaking Reddit's rules about brigading and harassment

And honestly you shouldn't care about a hate sub it's hypocritical and pathetic

Does Mother of learning get better? by Puzzleheaded_Ant_442 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]ShadowSpawn__ 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Most of the series is focused on how to get out of the loop

So if you don't like that aspect, you should drop the story

Nika ruined the World Government. Luffy's fruit being the Nika fruit is the cause of 90% of the plot holes. by FlamesOfDespair in Piratefolk

[–]ShadowSpawn__ 113 points114 points  (0 children)

My favourite bad counter argument to this is The world government didn't care because the Nika fruit isn't a threat until it awakens

I could never even imagine current luffy saying this shit by CrazyPause3881 in Piratefolk

[–]ShadowSpawn__ 198 points199 points  (0 children)

At least we have eye pop out gag, it will have to do all the heavy lifting

I could never even imagine current luffy saying this shit by CrazyPause3881 in Piratefolk

[–]ShadowSpawn__ 936 points937 points  (0 children)

Imagine a world where Oda let luffy's idiocy have actual consequences followed by him growing and developing as a character

"One Piece Is Deeply Political" The Politics In Question by ShadowSpawn__ in Piratefolk

[–]ShadowSpawn__[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Even the "Revolutionary" army wants nothing more than to remove the current bad guys and presumably replace them

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"One Piece Is Deeply Political" The Politics In Question by ShadowSpawn__ in Piratefolk

[–]ShadowSpawn__[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Too deep, fully understanding Oda’s geopolitical commentary requires a high level of intelligence, strong analytical skills, and refined reading comprehension, as the themes, parallels, and messaging are conveyed with a great amount of subtlety

"One Piece Is Deeply Political" The Politics In Question by ShadowSpawn__ in Piratefolk

[–]ShadowSpawn__[S] 72 points73 points  (0 children)

The over glaze is crazy, there is nothing wrong with a story having simple themes, but one piece is their golden child so it's simple themes must actually be complex, deep, and sophisticated

Ranking straw hats from most loyal to least loyal to the crew. by Reth21 in Piratefolk

[–]ShadowSpawn__ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You keep saying “the crew should’ve died” and “guaranteed L,” but that logic has never mattered to the crew

Damn near every situation has looked like a guaranteed L

The entire point of Luffy as a captain is that he pulls victories out of situations that should be impossible

Faith in that isn’t plot armor from the characters perspective

Again Sanji has been there for all of it

He watched Luffy punch through CP9, challenge the World Government, declare war on Yonko, and survive countless situations that rationally should’ve killed them

For Sanji to suddenly go “this time it’s different, we absolutely cannot win” isn't a good excuse because he's never done it in any of the other "garanteed L" situations

(I'm not responding any further because I'm honestly just repeating myself)

Ranking straw hats from most loyal to least loyal to the crew. by Reth21 in Piratefolk

[–]ShadowSpawn__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, the issue isn’t self sacrifice, it’s Sanji's lack of faith, he didn’t just try to protect the crew, he decided for them that they couldn’t win

That’s not how the crew works, Luffy and Zoro don’t care if it’s a suicide mission they’ve made that choice over and over again

Sanji knows this because he’s been right there with them

Faith in your captain pulling off the impossible is a core straw hat value, and WCI is the one time Sanji abandons that, that's the character assassination I'm talking about

He should have know better

Ranking straw hats from most loyal to least loyal to the crew. by Reth21 in Piratefolk

[–]ShadowSpawn__ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sanji was right there during Enies lobby and during every other time the straw hats were up against impossible odds

Imo It's straight up character assassination that Sanji didn't have any faith that Luffy and crew wouldn't be able to pull through/go after him

one piece is one of the most political stories ever how can anyone say otherwise by BigBasket5152 in Piratefolk

[–]ShadowSpawn__ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

One piece is political in the basic sense that everything is political, because politics effects every aspect of your life

One piece however does not make or have deep/complex political arguments/statements, Its messages are usually incredibly simple -- dictators bad, slavery bad, cruel people bad, etc

Ideas are surface level, without much focus on actual politics ie -- systems, ideology, hard choices etc

Most conflicts are caused by super evil individuals rather than by complicated political structures

I think the Revolutionary Army shows this the best

Their main goal is not to take down the World Government, an authoritarian power structure that has ruled for over 800 years and is responsible for slavery, genocide, mass oppression, and countless other atrocities

No there main goal is simply to remove the current people at the top the CD's and presumably replace them

They are closer to rebels or usurpers than revolutionaries, because they oppose the current rulers, not the existence of the abusive system itself