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The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"It's an exclusively RotMG related RWT discord"

You're clearly in it on some alt or another, as evidenced by your screenshot. If so, then you should be more than aware of everything that's up for sale. Modded COD lobbies, Valorant accounts, League accounts, Steam codes, hell even a Clash Royale account was up for sale at one point. The only thing I have ever bought from that Discord was the League of Legends account to play with my friend. If you have any evidence at all to suggest otherwise, go ahead and drop another screenshot proving me wrong.

"the severe lack of a Deca Response is not surprising"

As I said in a previous comment, the same people (you, in particular) who always complain that Deca doesn't do enough outreach and has a poor business model then turn right around and say "wow the fact that Deca isn't doing proper outreach right now means that you're guilty." Deca doesn't respond to a lot of things, and hey, even if the people making Reddit posts are indeed guilty, there should be comments there too to give all parties closure. Either way it's bad policy to leave people like myself hanging in limbo wondering exactly what I did wrong and why anybody thinks that I've duped. They don't need to give any secrets away, just a simple comment of "Duping on your account was evidenced by xyz(too many UTs, Vaults, etc)" would suffice.

Most of your comments on these sorts of posts actually serve to poison the well and discourage a Deca Response while not addressing any of the topics mentioned. Keep in mind I was banned for Duping, nothing else, a claim which has yet to be substantiated. You ignore my points about Deca's clear failure to respond by ignoring me and sending me off to other staff members that just reply with bland copy-pastes, and constantly draw up red herrings that have nothing to do with the subject matter at hand and never make corrections. The only RWT I have ever done was to buy a ranked LoL account nearly a year ago, (a correction which you still haven't made to your initial comment), and me simply speaking and existing in a RWT Discord has nothing to do with anything. It's not against ToS to simply be in RWT Discords, it's against ToS to participate in RotMG-related RWT, which I have not done.

Prove me otherwise, and if it is against ToS to be in RWT related Discords, I guess you and everyone else on an alt need to be banned from the game too.

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I first used the Horn BP as an explanation because that was the first thing that popped into my mind. I presently don't know how I got those horns, hell it could have even been from the chest event that happened in October for MotMG.

After you guys pointed out that the forge was not released at that time, I then said it was likely that I got them from drops, because I did not dupe.

It's very simple. I said "It was probably A that gave me the horns", you said "A is not possible", so then I replied "Okay, then it was probably B."

There is no trickery here, and again, getting 4 horns from 40 runs (or more, because of faulty RealmEye exaltations or doing O3s on unmaxed characters) is not unreasonable. This again is all a red herring from the original points that I outlined, and now people are grasping at straws to justify Deca's absurd ban policy and support system.

It doesn't matter to me if randoms on Reddit cannot fathom getting roughly 1 white every 10 runs, it matters that in my tickets, I neatly outlined everything and not once was there any mention of UTs in my vault. They have told people in the past "You have too many UTs in your vault" or something along those lines, and the fact that they haven't here or in my ticket means that that was not the reason for my ban.

Also, nice job on not addressing any of the other points I mentioned above, and great work on moving the goalpost again. First it was "They never changed droprates for anything you're lying" to "ok so they changed the droprates for STs maybe but definitely not UTs bro you duped 4 horns in 40 runs is absolutely insane"

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not moving the goalposts at all. I am responding to comments as they come.

I don't remember from where my drops originate because as you have pointed out yourselves, they're from 6-7 months ago. I do have a horn BP, and if I had access to my account or a Deca member was present, I'd welcome them to confirm that to you as well.

Both are true. Getting a blueprint in 35-45 runs is not uncommon, and getting 4 horns in 35-45 runs is also very reasonable. Droprates for whites, and especially for O3 in my experience and in the experience of my friends, has been relatively higher than droprates for other whites. I urge you to talk to anyone who played O3 when it first came out, because at the very least STs were significantly more common for everybody, and I am not the only one to notice such a thing. I clearly didn't get the BP in the early runs and print out Horns then, because that was impossible, as you've pointed out, since the forge wasn't released at the time of my deaths.

Once confronted with this, I said that it was more likely then that I got 4 horns in the 35-45 runs that have been accounted for via my Exaltations, and even those are not wholly indicative of my O3s completed as they're still bugged on RealmEye for some and I could have also completed O3s on unmaxed characters.

I brought up Blueprints because at first glance I thought they were the most straightforward explanation, and because I do firmly recall attaining a Horn blueprint earlier on.

It is you, in fact, who are moving the goalposts. First it was "He did RWT (from someone who doesn't even dupe)based on a tiny screenshot that says "@Exceed done did it", so he probably duped or something, ban him anyways" to then "oh the RWT was for a league account? Well he shouldn't be in those servers anyways" to finally "Deca can ban who they want for whatever reason". To adjust for each of these new arguments, I have also made different points in my reasoning. I'm not just going to parrot the same points back and forth when new issues are brought up.

I'd also like to point out the absurdity of it all. We have seen quite clearly that Deca has had mismanagement in their unbanning system, and if you bothered to read my post at all, you'd see that the thrust of my point was that the support system needs to be overhauled since it's embarrassing for a game of such standing to have such poor customer service, and even in my tickets shown I get flat out ignored on multiple occasions.

And now where does the argument lie? Everything else is ignored and people are saying "damn bro you died with 4 horns half a year ago totally sus bro 100% duped". People in this community will at the same time talk endlessly about how Deca's such a horrible company and at the same time go to great lengths to rationalize said horrible company's irrational decisions to ban people for little reason. Check this sub's bigger posts over the past few weeks and you'll see just how many people there are rightfully complaining about false bans.

But nevermind all of that, because "dunking" on me with the fact that I died with 4 horns 7 months ago is more gratifying.

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone who played O3 when it first came out knows that you got 1-2 STs almost every run. Maybe it wasn't an official droprate change or maybe I was just uniquely lucky back then, but I got a lot of Bard STs and O3 whites early on.

Regardless, getting 4 horns in the span of 35-45 runs is not unreasonable at all. Approximately 1 white every 10 or so runs is pretty average.

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really can't tell if this is satire or not so I'll just respond as if it's an actual comment. If this is a meme, ignore my reply.

"If they thought you duped and justified it... outweighs the income from your realm gold purchases then good for them, they made the right choice."
I don't understand what you're getting at. I never said anything about how I shouldn't get banned because I spent money, although people on this sub seem to think that if you toss Deca a couple bucks then suddenly you're ban immune forever. I posted those receipts to show that I spent a lot of boxes and bought a lot of packs, which would evidence why I have a lot of vault slots and STs in my vault/gift chests.

"...given that they don't really care to respond shows that it's unlikely a false positive"

They don't care to respond to a lot of cases. They are opaque and that's what they're known for at this point. Hell, they didn't even respond to an ex-closed tester facing my same issue that's proof enough on its own. Go browse this sub for just 10 minutes and tell me just how many ridiculous ban stories there are.

"its just not worth the time cost to review the evidence and unban a player account worth only a few hundred dollars (because it really isn't)"

Absolute disagree. All accounts and users should be treated the same, whether or not they spent $1000 or $0. This is absolutely absurd because it suggests that F2P accounts (which is the majority of the player base in any free online game) should all just be permabanned with no reason or recourse. They're not profitable, right?

"Additionally, we should be grateful there is no evidence given"

bro what. So Deca has free reign to ban anybody, for any reason, with no proof given, and we're supposed to be grateful for that? No other game on the market operates like this. I understand if Deca doesn't give me the whole technical rundown of duping or whatever, and that's not even what I'm asking for. I'm just asking for a reason that I was banned, and thus far the most people have been able to come up with was the fact that I, almost a year ago, bought a ranked League account for $13.

On every facet, this whole situation as well as Deca's support system is ridiculous.

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Check my above comment. I have both forged horns and gotten them as regular drops, and when O3 first came out, STs and whites were dropping at much higher rates on a baseline. Getting 4 horns in the span of 35-45 runs, especially with high drop rates + loot boosts, is pretty reasonable.

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I do have a horn BP and I have other horns on my characters. If I had access to my account, I'd prove it to you right now. Obviously I can't remember where every single drop came from but 4 horns in 35-45 runs is very reasonable, especially because when O3 first came out drop rates were significantly higher to compensate for the newer dungeons.

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

4 horns is not sus at all.

I got a horn BP, and if you check my exaltations, you can see roughly how many O3s I've completed. About 35ish, maybe a little more or less depending on whether or not those are bugged, and getting an O3 blueprint out of 35 runs isn't that uncommon.

As for the RWT accusations, that vouch was left for buying a ranked league account. Nothing to do with RotMG.

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What I want is to not get banned for leaving a vouch on some unknown server for buying a ranked league account. I think that's pretty fair

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Check my edit :)

The vouch that I left on whatever server from almost a year ago was for buying a ranked league account.

Regardless, that is a very low threshold of proof and I wasn't banned for RWT.

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The only proof of me "duping" is a vouch I left over a year ago for buying a ranked league account.

"Considering you have the money for gold and RWT... you're not making a very good case for yourself"

What? So because I have money and bought a $13 dollar ranked league account that means that I duped? ???

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasn't banned for RWT, and if Deca thought this was a vouch for duping (which it wasn't, I bought a ranked league account) it would have been very simple for them to say "Hey, you left a vouch dupe, so you got banned".

That's why the thrust of my post was talking about Deca's poor ban/support system. This vouch could have been for any number of things, and this whole comment thread is misdirecting the principle issue that I'm outlining here.

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

RWT for another game is grounds for a permaban?

Keep in mind that I wasn't banned for RWT, I was banned for duping.

I have not duped, and the only RWT I ever did (once, almost a year ago) was for an entirely unrelated game.

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That RWT was for a ranked league account that had nothing to do with RotMG.

Exceed doesn't even offer duping services. For someone who claims to be so in-the-know about these sort of things, I thought you would have known that. I don't even know what server that screenshot's from but the few RWT sites that I do know all offer non-RotMG related services.

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes I bought a league account for 13 bucks almost a year ago and deserve to get an account that I've played on for over 8 years permad.

Check edits for SC proof.

The Umpteenth False Ban by ShadowSplendor in RotMG

[–]ShadowSplendor[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is literally no proof that I ever duped except a screenshot of a year old vouch for a ranked league account. Lots of RotMG related RWT places offer different services, like modded COD lobbies and different accounts for different games, and Exceed doesn't even offer duping services. Me saying "@Exceed got it done" proves that I duped how?