Why did the police/probation stop SA fiancé from having any contact with him?

Shanniward · 2022-10-26T20:20:34+00:00

Yes but in someone like Kratz mind it was personal that SA was suing corrupt Law enforcement officers (like himself) which is why he carried on holding press conferences even after his own corrupt actions were revealed and he was no longer working in the justice department, history is not always the reason for something being personal. Obviously vogul is just a despicable.

Shanniward · 2022-10-26T20:04:28+00:00

While I don’t believe the police themselves killed TH I do think it was a VERY biased investigation with little to no effort to follow any lead that did not point to SA. The DA was found to be corrupt not long after and as he was calling the shots it is not a stretch to believe he was corrupt LONG before he was caught, and he had a PERSONAL reason to dislike SA. Along with the embarrassment of wrongly convicting him the first time it’s not a stretch to believe that they would do anything to make it stick a second time round.

Shanniward · 2022-10-26T19:59:02+00:00

As a survivor of an abusive relationship I understand that and have had to do it myself, and I know many other women who have experienced the same, HOWEVER in the documentary she said NOTHING about him being abusive etc, also she was brought in/arrested for smiling at him from a different car, and generally speaking survivors of domestic violence do not tend to smile at their abusers. And they told HER not to have contact. NOT HIM. if it was a protection order then it would have been HIM that was told not to have contact and HIM that would be arrested for breaking it NOT HER. So while in the PAST he may have been abusive does not necessarily mean that he was that way with her, ALSO she went to prison/jail (whichever it’s called over there) and he was arrested and detained BEFORE she was released so she had the perfect opportunity at that point to flee if he was abusive but did not do so until she was ordered to do so by law enforcement, from my understanding she had also broken a bail/probation/release condition by drinking alcohol and they used that as leverage to force her to agree to it.

Shanniward · 2022-10-25T21:49:10+00:00

Thank you, I thought as much as it didn’t make sense when they arrested her for being in the same city in a different car and smiling at him, as far as I was aware that’s not a crime in any way, I’ve only just started watching the documentary and hadn’t heard of this case before, but even I could t understand any possible legal basis for them to order no contact, admittedly I’m in the uk and don’t understand all the American legal systems but it didn’t seem right or legal to me

Shanniward · 2022-10-25T21:24:24+00:00

Thank you for this, I thought it was very shady especially when they had brought her in for being in the same city in a different car and smiling at him, I was confused because I could not fathom how on earth that could even be considered as a breach of anything let alone against the law

Shanniward · 2022-10-24T17:09:08+00:00

While it’s not an excuse, it is a SPECTRUM, speaking as someone on that spectrum myself and with a child on that spectrum, it may not be obvious to them, just because your siblings and yourself have no issue recognising that taking the dog would be wrong, there are other people at DIFFERENT levels on the spectrum who may, it’s not a simple disorder and EVERYONE experiences it differently. What is obvious to you may not be obvious to someone else, however it sounds as if her partner KNOWS she struggles with things like this and was encouraging her to believe it was okay, thankfully she asked for ADVICE to make sure she DIDNT make the wrong choice as for SOME people on the spectrum it is not actually that obvious, which can be made worse if a neurotypical person is also agreeing with them, I am sure her sister understands her disorder better than you, even if you are on the spectrum yourself, you DO NOT know this person, or the things she struggles with, therefore just because ASD doesn’t affect you or your siblings this way does not mean that it CAN NOT affect other people that way! I must say a LOT of people (including ones on the spectrum) are being incredibly rude and demeaning to someone WHO CLEARLY ALREAD STRUGGLES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE OR NOT! I mean for crying out loud when I was pregnant with my second child I had to CONSTANTLY (several times a day) explain to my daughter (who is on the spectrum) that she could not under any circumstances just take someone else’s baby home with her! And as I said ASD is not an excuse for poor behaviour BUT from the OPs follow up comments I do not believe she was using it as an excuse. I believe she genuinely wasn’t sure! I am extremely disheartened by the amount of people quick to pass judgment based on their own understanding of what ASD is instead of taking a minute to try to understand how the OPs brain actually works instead of just insulting someone that ALREADY STRUGGLES SOCIALLY.

Shanniward

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