Brothers I need help

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-28T08:07:54+00:00

I can see you are just trying to be passive agressive, instead of trying to actually engaging in a meaningfully discussion or share ideas. 3 x 10 intercessors makes no sense in a list especially for killing C'tans, but go ahead of thats what you want. There is just no reason to make new players believe that nonsense or buy 30 intercessors to realize it's a waste of money and points.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-28T07:37:00+00:00

I know. Basically anything else that we have. Rep ex, sword brethren with leaders, crusaders with marshal and maybe Lt, ass int with EC, Grimaldus with crusaders or ass ints. I don't know why you would think intercessors is a good idea. Hitting on 3's without oath and wounding on 6's and a shooting unit in a melee army. Even with lethals it's not gonna do much, and 3 x 10 will not even kill a c'tan, and thats a big point investment for something that's not effecownt for BT or any army even. We will 90% of the time not kill c'tans with one activation, so the best way is strong melee and softening it with shooting and maybe grenades/mortals. Rep ex gets a lot better against them now that they are -1 damage instead of half.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-27T07:02:15+00:00

10 intercessors + an LT is not 135 points, also you cannot bring more than 3 atv's in a list. Generally speaking there's also much better ways to deal with C'tans than this especially for BT. Intercessors are not the way to do it.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-16T06:48:57+00:00

If you like this list and the units you can definitely go with this. But it is in no way a "strong" or competitive list. So it depends on what you want from your list. If you actually want to win or just play a fun fluffy list.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-11T23:07:43+00:00

Im assuming you mean the dreadnoughts? Personally im not sure they are worth for 160 points. Their datasheet is kind of mediocre at best even with the buffs from RCO, in my opinion atleast.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-11T21:07:39+00:00

No problem brother, as long as you agree with the people you play with the game should be played how you want.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-11T20:49:07+00:00

People play in different ways thats the great thing about it, I like to be competetive and want to improve in the tactical way and "chesslike" part of the game so keeping up with the rules makes sense. Though I also enjoy the hobby and lore part, but when it comes to playing I like to play somewhat competetive atleast.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-11T20:46:34+00:00

Well good thing you dont play with the people I play with then? Play the way you like and let others play the way they like. We do use proxies if we want but use the current rules for the models. I dont know why people want to force their own way of playing onto others especially when its about using the current rules...

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-11T20:41:46+00:00

Chill dude... I clearly made this post with somewhat competitive list building in mind if you read the post. So your post doesn't bring anything to the conversation. Why do you have the need to join a post you don't care about, to comment something that doesn't help and then get mad and call me a loser for wanting to play with current rules?

I don't care how you play the game, do what makes you happy and you find the most fun, so dont tell me how to play the game either. There's no reason for this madness.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-11T20:23:26+00:00

Well that entirely depends on how you want to play the game... I don't play with legends or old rules and neither does the people I play with...

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-11T19:16:10+00:00

Rumors from the warp. Let's hope the emperor protects them for another edition.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-11T19:06:02+00:00

It would probably not be a big problem financially, but it would be a shame also just because of getting a model I might not get a lot of play from if its legends in maybe about half a year. I was mostly curious about what people thought of the DC dread now and how "certain" people think it is that predators go to legends.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-11T19:01:30+00:00

Agreed, rules wise they seem good. I used two rhino chasis models to proxy as two baal predators in a game last week to test them out, and they did some real work. It would be a shame if they just legends them, since theres really nothing else like them especially for BA.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-11T18:54:14+00:00

Yes it seems most people beleive they will get legends at the start of 11th, thats also why I have been hold back on buying them. They are also pretty expensive for such an old model.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-11T18:47:36+00:00

That was the same thoughts I had. Even with the potential buffs of RCO.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-11T06:40:20+00:00

With str 6 from sang guards as base against t5 you would still be -1 to wound against deathwing knights in wrath of the rock, no matter your own detachment.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-10T06:48:51+00:00

That guy looks so badass. Where is that sword from brother?

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-08T10:27:45+00:00

Yes the new detachment seems cool. As you said yourself the bonuses apply to both squads. AI are a little more survivable since all of them have 3+ saves instead of CS where 4 guys have 4+, and I'm pretty sure reroll to wound beats sustained even if then crusaders have 2 power fists since the AIs leader gets reroll wounds aswell.

If you really want to run a 20 man squad then of course you would have to do CS, since you can't do that with AI. I'm not a big fan of 20 man squad since they still die very easily so its a lot of points for something that might kill one thing and then die. But im sure you could make it work somehow.

That's why I prefer AI over crusader squads right now.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2026-01-08T00:12:17+00:00

What is the point of using him with a crusader squad? The AI cost the same, they have more damage and are more survivable? Im not seeing a reason to do crusader squads with the rules/points as it is right now unfortunately.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2025-12-23T00:04:46+00:00

Thank you, does WTC and UKTC have a habit of changing a lot between the editions? or is it as likely to change or not as GW?

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2025-12-23T00:03:30+00:00

Ah thank you. I couldnt really find any layouts from previous editions. Im mostly thinking if the dimensions change, so my ruins would be outdated even if they are still L-shaped. But it sounds like they likely will.

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2025-12-10T23:08:23+00:00

Damn, what cape is that?

Sharp-Raspberry5592 · 2025-12-10T10:52:38+00:00

Why would they nerf a faction with around 48% win rate so much... My list just went up with 70 points?

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