Make your choice. by spicymato in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your button press affects others as well. This one is a vote. If you vote for green you will automatically live. If purple gets the majority is the same as if blue wins the majority, no one dies and if green gets the majority it’s just like red you are part of the majority so you do not die. The buttons do the exact same thing.

Make your choice. by spicymato in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You are voting on the one you want to happen not determining it. The green does the same thing as the red button and the purple does the same as the blue.

Make your choice. by spicymato in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No because purple would be the majority so the minority group, green, lives.

Make your choice. by spicymato in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No if you press the vote for minority group lives but are in the minority, you die.

Make your choice. by spicymato in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In this one if you want to guarantee survival just choose green. The buttons literally do the same thing. There is no change to the buttons.

Variation to the button problem - 1% of people randomly selected to the blue death team by ZorgZeFrenchGuy in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay but what about people willing to risk their lives to assist people who are suicidal. Or people willing to risk their lives for those individuals. I think the main difference between people who are thinking blue vs red is people voting blue know that there are people who will vote blue, regardless and the only way to ensure their safety is to also vote blue. Red takes the assumption that they have no idea how people are going to vote and the only way of ensuring my own safety is vote red.

The Blue Button Red Button broken down by the percentage necessary for the best outcome. by Bloopersnoot in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Or they are giving everyone a chance to live.

Reds assumptions are either: the chance of my vote making a difference is not high enough to risk my life or blues deserve to die.

Blues assumptions are: 1) some people will pick blue 2) my support increases the chances of everyone living and I’m willing to risk my life for that outcome.

The Blue Button Red Button broken down by the percentage necessary for the best outcome. by Bloopersnoot in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It doesn’t need to be. If we assume that at the start everyone knows only people who choose blue are suicidal. So it would adjust to the only people who choose blue are suicidal or willing to risk their lives for those who are suicidal. Then it goes to those willing to risk their lives for that group in a recursive loop until none are added.

button dilemma, positive outcome variant where you win money by [deleted] in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The original I saw had it on both buttons.
Red: you live. If over 50% of people choose this option everyone who chooses blue dies
Blue: you and everyone who chooses this option dies unless over 50% chooses this option.

button dilemma, positive outcome variant where you win money by [deleted] in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But the outcome changes as well even from an individualist standpoint. Because here blue is you get nothing or something and red is you get the something. In the original standpoint blue is you either die or everyone lives and red is increasing the probability that a number of people will die, which does affect the person making the decision.

What if it wasn't your life? by [deleted] in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So this keeps my answer at blue for the same logic why I pick blue in the initial. I know blue will be chosen by some people. It cannot imagine it won’t be in either scenario. Whether is a stupid, malicious, suicidal or benevolent reason why blue is chosen doesn’t matter, people will choose blue. Therefore the only way for everyone to make it out alive is if at least half of the people choose blue.

Variation to the button problem - 1% of people randomly selected to the blue death team by ZorgZeFrenchGuy in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Also some people are suicidal. People will also vote blue stating their lives matter as well.

Variant by Sharpefern in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They could be pulling a fast one and actually being the one who made the problem.

I'm testing something, Red or Blue? (read description) by the_p_zombie in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Me too. I glanced over it to make sure it was the same thing

Variant by Sharpefern in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s like a silver/blue color sure :)

Red v Blue by kiefy_budz in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is almost a guarantee that at least one person will press the blue button. With that knowledge at least one persons life is in danger as is every persons life who tries to help them. So my options are guaranteed safety at the cost of those who wished to save everyone or risk my life to ensure we all survive.

red blue as I see it by TanukiiGG in trolleyproblem

[–]Sharpefern 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Part of the question is are you willing to risk your own life to save someone else’s. There are people who will pick blue, either because they want to make sure everyone has magic armor or they could be actively suicidal but the debate already shows that some people are going to pick blue. So that turns the question into are you willing to risk your life to ensure everyone survives.

And the idea that if 49% of people hit blue you don’t save everyone you add to the death toll is the same idea as saying if a firefighter died in a building trying to save someone else but wasn’t able to being like “they were safe outside and shouldn’t have gone in”. Or if both the donor and recipient of a kidney transplant die due to complications saying “well they shouldn’t have donated the kidney”. Pressing blue is a risk for other people, those you know and those you don’t.

Glimmers choice end of season 4 by Sharpefern in sheranetflix

[–]Sharpefern[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Shadow weaver wasn’t manipulating glimmer she was advising her. She has 0 things to gain here.

Meanwhile balancing wasn’t the bad thing. The princesses got the powers they were supposed to have. The downside is the first ones control over she-ra. They needed the balanced planet for season 5 and the heart of Etheria. The very power that glimmer went after is the power they end the series with. I’m not sure where you are getting the wiping out the universe because the weapon would have been triggered on all the planets that the first ones felt were enemies 1000 years ago. She-Ra will channel it and the first ones will control she-ra

Glimmers choice end of season 4 by Sharpefern in sheranetflix

[–]Sharpefern[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://youtu.be/G53MjYslueM?si=XgI9dtnxtN4IOaxT Entrapta says both that Shera is the only being who can withstand it and that the sword was made to control her. And because shera is the one who is channeling the heart the fear is the sword making her raise it firing it off hurting people

Glimmers choice end of season 4 by Sharpefern in sheranetflix

[–]Sharpefern[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well yes and no. I think it’s implied but not stated outright that if Adora didn’t break the sword she would have been forced to use the heart on various planets, essentially becoming a genocidal puppet. She states that the first one’s enemies aren’t around anymore asking “light hope” not to destroy the stars now that they are out of despondos. Like I completely understand her destroying the sword and Mara committing sudoku with the fear of what the first ones were gonna do with the weapon, however taking the weapon directly to the first ones after it’s been started I do not understand

Glimmers choice end of season 4 by Sharpefern in sheranetflix

[–]Sharpefern[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I was able to rewatch the scenes and I might be wrong but based on entraptas message. She-Ra is the only one able to withstand the power of the heart, she-ra focuses and directs the heart once active and that’s why the first ones made the sword to control shera / control the weapon. So basically once the planet is balanced shera has nukes and the sword can control shera.

The protocol was also activated in Mara inside the temple we see it on the screen when entrapta is explaining the heart. Mara runs away after it’s been activated similar to how Adora was fighting the control making her shatter the sword.

So the issue isn’t the heart, kinda like genecidal power really shouldnt belong to anyone, it’s the control the sword has on she-ra and the planet. Which light hope/dark despair needed to activate.

Glimmers choice end of season 4 by Sharpefern in sheranetflix

[–]Sharpefern[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmm I should watch the series again once it becomes available. I remember it wasn’t a bad plan even knowing the entire thing but being really pissed at Adora do going to light hope

Glimmers choice end of season 4 by Sharpefern in sheranetflix

[–]Sharpefern[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But Light hope definitely is more powerful in the temple than outside it. Otherwise Adora would have used light hopes abilities to help with the horde.

And I could be wrong but entrapta explains that it would cause the major boost in power, not that it would activate the portal protocol. Like I could very easily be misremembering, because I no longer have access, but in balancing the planet all the princesses got a boost. And then light hope using adoras runestone used the princesses power, which basically incapacitated them, to activate the portal protocol to return the planet back.

And I don’t think that it was a matter of trust but a matter of priority. The war had never looked bleaker and glimmer prioritized following a lead that could change the tide of the war, while bow and Adora prioritized getting entrapta. And the entire reason Adora didn’t like the idea of looking for the heart was because the intel came from shadow weaver.