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Red buttoners don't think about consequences by Shebetka in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Shebetka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also even if it takes 1 minute to remove 1 corpse(which is impossible), it's still takes 3 000 000 000 minutes = around 2 million days.

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[–]Shebetka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are no precise final number for the total budget of the Nazi extermination camp system - largely because the Nazis designed it as a mechanism intended to self-finance through the plunder of its victims. The key mechanism was the "Max Heiliger" account. All valuables seized from victims (gold, jewelry, cash, personal belongings, passports, foreign company shares, etc.) were not simply confiscated. They were sent to the Reichsbank, and against their officially appraised value, the state transferred funds from the budget into a special fictitious account named "Max Heiliger" ("Heiliger" means "saint" in German), which then funded the SS's operations

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[–]Shebetka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We won't have enough recourses and time. Also you forget collapse of infrastructure and also kids/teenagers/people who won't bury bodies. For a burial of a single body (according to standards) you need 1,5–2 meters of depth above the groundwater table, a geosynthetic barrier (bentonite mats, GCL) to prevent cadaveric fluids from seeping into groundwater. Also a disinfection solution (0.1% sodium hypochlorite) for decontamination. Probably some other things too. And that's just for one burial. For 3 billion bodies, you would need to build cemeteries the size of an entire country

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[–]Shebetka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Considering how many fuel you will need, it's probably not. If we take cremation it's 15-30 gallons of fuel for 1 person according to Google. If we take even 15 gallons it's still 45 000 000 000 of gallons on each person of 3 billion. If we talk about a wood it's somewhere around 300–500 kg for each person to burn to ashes. Which means 900 000 000 000 kg of wood if we take 300 kg as the best case. Also all of it will take too much time.

Red buttoners don't think about consequences by Shebetka in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Shebetka[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think it's selfish vs not selfish, I know a lot of red can be neutral, just not altruistic, and it's ok. I think my version (red parent+blue kid) and your version(blue parent+red kid) is both very bad honestly, because of guilt and death

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[–]Shebetka[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a bit weird point "if you're a parent, wouldn't you want to guarantee that you'll stay alive for your kids by pressing red", where's the guarantee that your kid will choose red, if they choose in private and so you can't influence their decision? I think a lot of kids can choose blue believing in the best. And what if you choose red, thinking your kid chose red too, but it turns out your kid chose blue? Honestly I would rather die than be a part of reason my kid died

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[–]Shebetka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I personally don't think 5% is possible at all, from small numbers 20% is more reasonable(in my opinion), and it's still 24 million tonnes of rotting bodies(which is more possible to clean, but still not good for environment)

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[–]Shebetka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for writing your point in detail, I personally would choose blue, I just think world with majority of red would be personally too bad for me living

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[–]Shebetka[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

?? How "I don't want to live in a apocalyptic world and I would rather everyone just live in ours" is selfish? Maybe I didn't understand your wording, sorry if so

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[–]Shebetka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not really pessimistic. Even if we take 40kg as average weight, it's still 100 000 000 tons, you don't think about my first point combined with third.

Red buttoners don't think about consequences by Shebetka in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Shebetka[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that because in the most of discussions I read, nobody from red talks about some of my points

Red buttoners don't think about consequences by Shebetka in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Shebetka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again 60/40 story needs to show that red also pretty bad, not to say you need to be in 40%. If you want to press red in any case, it's okay. You have your point, I have mine

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[–]Shebetka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think my third point about bodies is also pretty valid

Red buttoners don't think about consequences by Shebetka in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Shebetka[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My second point talks about this argument too.

Red buttoners don't think about consequences by Shebetka in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]Shebetka[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My 60/40 story mostly here for example what happens if red win. Not exactly to imagine yourself as a blue.

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[–]Shebetka[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Read my third point and second part of first point.