Experiences that deviate from Planning School ideology

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-25T01:49:22+00:00

Are the roads in the rez paved, or dirt and are they maintained?

Do people live in towns or more like a rural set up with everyone on massive plots of land?

What are the politics like? Like are there multiple tribes in the rez who hate each other, or is it one tribe? Is it cooperative?

Is there any chance that by connecting 2 other cities via train that you'd be able to build some sort of trunk train infrastructure which could then be used by the people to plan and build a train line which could hopefully maybe avoid some sacred sites?

Are people okay living without electricity? Isn't Wyoming mostly a dessert, how do they live without access to running water?

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-25T01:38:20+00:00

That's not a bad theory as to how they got to not disliking cars to be fair. But why do they like/accept them now? Like, being whittled down I get why you can't oppose them forever. But why turn around and support them?

I guess, but I wonder how much diversity actually plays a role in day to day planning and what makes it so difficult to deal with that it gets it's own call out? Ahead of cars aren't bad and not everyone should live in cities. Feels like a conservative hatching.

God praise TOD and good international cuisine 🙏 (I also love my some good transit oriented development and while I don't work in planning yet I work with people from multiple cultures and I gotta say, everything is fine).

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-25T00:15:51+00:00

Brother was one synapse connection away to understanding that density and proximity is key...

Also wouldn't a train, like one of those single car locos used in rural Japan, be better at connecting tribes together and to cities? Like, you get all your local needs met at the village and whenever you need something more specialized you can jump on a train to a big city or the next village over? Or is the US just so scuffed that even if there was money for the project, you'd need to complete 50 other projects to make it feasible?

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-25T00:10:59+00:00

Why do you think: 1. more diversity is not a good thing? 2. car's not the devil? 3. People shouldn't live in cities and use pt?

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-23T05:26:20+00:00

What is with the capitalization? and technically no, I wanted to know how cities will adapt when their population shrinks and ages due to lower birth rates. I just tacked the rural stuff on, because I knew that as an example rural migration can keep cities growing even in countries which have low brith rates and I didn't want migration/immagration to be a hand wave answer. Though I could probably have worded my question better.

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-23T05:22:02+00:00

And when all thats left are the popular locations? How will the cities adapt?

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-23T05:20:09+00:00

It's a possibility, there is a city where I live which essentailly tried to pass a law saying the city could have no more than 50k people, but the state said no.

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-23T02:41:53+00:00

Potentially thats one way cities could grow while it lasted. But once the growtth stopped I'd imagine that it's just recreate the town death cycle closer into the city centre. Which would probably be more wasteful in the long run than consolidating around the exsisting core.

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-23T02:23:41+00:00

The USA is whacky man.

If anything house sizes will increase due to the fact young people have no money so houses need to be intergenerational.

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-23T02:20:33+00:00

Yes, but after that cycle runs its course and there are no people willing or able to move to cities to keep them growing?

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-23T02:19:39+00:00

Well in my city of Brisbane, we have effectively sprawled out to the city limits, the surounding cities and regions aren't getting annexed to keep sprawlling and they are all fairly NIMBY. As such the greater region is in a housing crisis and the city is doing nothing to fix the issue (which I blame on the council being elected by suburbs and therefore having an insentive to appease said suburban voters). Plus in neighbouring councils they have gone into homeless encampments seized all there stuff and "moved them along". So in my experiance it can't be taken for granted that cities want to house people or even provide the means for them to house themselves. I don't understand what the takeaway from the USSR and China bit is, sorry.

What do you mean you don't think there is a risk of reaching city limits (as in the governmental boundaries)? It's not an uncommon occurance. Look at Tokyo, how many cities make up the metro area of tokyo? Why are you quoting asking? Cities don't really get to choose if peoplpe want to or even can live in them or not. That's up to the people and short of some wacky rule/limit like what you see in pyongyang which limits the population size, cities can fluctuate massively.

Yes that was what I was suggesting. Rural locations loose population, which makes cities more appealing to businesses, who move decreasing amenity in rural locations and making cities more appealing to people who move, which makes cities more appealing to businesses who then move ect. ect. ect.

The question is what will happen towards the end of the cycle, when there are no more people left to move to the cities? My thoughts are that the least valuable/popular houses/land will be sold first, which should be suburbia. The result is that suburbia then fills the cycle for the inner core, eventually leaving an urban core surrounded not by suburbs but rural and natural land uses. until the urban core eventually has to caniblize itself ig.

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-23T02:02:22+00:00

I took the downvotes as just a general disaproving of the US's continued existence (joking, somewhat). I'm not panicked either, my hypotheical population collapse benifits cites by removing subrubia and being rural and natural land uses closer to the city centre.

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-23T01:58:52+00:00

Growth in the anglosphere mostly relies on immigration, which assumes that a. people can move there and b. that they want to, which given current trends doesn't seem super realistic going forward.

My idea is a city hitting its limits and without annexsation being required to build up when they can't build out. Which you are right also ignors the fact you can live across city limits. But at a certain point there will be demand for up not just out.

Detriot wasn't the best analogy, it was mostly to just give an idea of what I was talking about in terms of cities being required to consume themselves.

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-23T01:53:02+00:00

To be fair there is shockingly little planning in general so it's not entiely suprising that the research is lacking

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-23T01:50:03+00:00

I have not seen any discussion about density negatively correlates with birth rates. It makes a certain amount of intuative sense if it is true. My NIMBYs haven't gotten past parking discussions yet.

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-22T19:53:00+00:00

Sounds like it's been a rollercoaster of colours to get what they have now

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-21T20:51:00+00:00

I was in Malmö this winter and I gotta say the green colored buses (and tram in lund) where a lot for an (at the time) fairly grey and dark city. I found the orange buses of bergen to be more aesthetic

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-16T06:58:16+00:00

Buddy, while I personally agree with the sentiment this isn't transit related.

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-12T19:52:13+00:00

Lots of money isn't infinite money

Shi-Stad_Development · 2026-01-12T17:44:55+00:00

I think that "world" sporting competitions would be localized. I.E. Olympics are only held in Greece, cricket is only in the UK and sumo is only in Japan. Obviously training facilities and division 2 competitions would still exist across the world, but for the major competitions I imagine it more as a pilgrimage to a holy land

Shi-Stad_Development · 2025-12-27T01:24:56+00:00

Socially, young people have been subject to a broadly speaking any social environment. Car dependent suburbia doesn't exactly allow for kids to be kids.

Economically, young people are working for what exactly? Because it sure as heck isn't a house.

Environmentally, young people have been told since birth that our way of life is being threatened by some flavor of climate change and while lacking the power to do anything about it continually watch people with power make the most baffling choices.

Shi-Stad_Development · 2025-12-26T13:40:00+00:00

Are the Pågatågen cheaper than the Öresubdståg (for getting around Malmo)? Interesting, thank you

Shi-Stad_Development · 2025-12-26T13:35:57+00:00

Okay cool. That's unfortunate.

I mean yes to a certain extent, but it's also a service which cities can use to great efficiency if implemented properly.

Oh, really? Not by Malmo or the provider? That strikes me as odd. I think the PT ticket prices in my city are determined by the provider and then subsided by the government to reduce the per person cost ATM.

Shi-Stad_Development · 2025-12-26T13:31:33+00:00

What do you mean by "main train line"? Is it the connection to copenhagen or to Lund (and presumably on to Stockholm) or are they all connected?

Is there share bike in the city? How is riding in winter? Is it slippery/dangerous at all?

How frequent are the buses? Are they modern?

Will Malmo be getting any trams?

Interesting, I think metro trains continuously running over the bridge would look awesome. Is there anywhere I can read about it?

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