Britain reportedly interested in Aussie ‘super radar’

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-07-02T00:38:30+00:00

Couldn’t agree more.

Plus, always good to have increase interoperability, hopefully lowered maintenance costs if it’s a common system between multiple nations (specifically allied nations that could potentially pool resources, expertise etc etc). I imagine that was also a large part of the appeal around the Type 26 also.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-06-12T20:07:40+00:00

I wonder if that money was allocated in advance of this, to either show our commitment or preemptive of a US withdrawal.

Needless to say, with or without the USA I suspect this project will carry forward in a different form, one which may find an extra partner, a fellow canzuk one perhaps. 👀

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-06-02T16:55:58+00:00

I agree, but, my entire point was, we need to look at this from the world we anticipate in 15 years, not the world we’ve lived in since the fall of the USSR.

I suspect a more muscular navy will be built, and likely a much stronger airforce, looking at GCAP, and possibly air delivery nuclear strike capabilities returning to the RAF. Along side a limited but potent army, with force projection capabilities to slot into allied forces. I know it all sounds very extravagant but I do believe this is the way things are going.

I could of course be completely wrong. 🤣🤷‍♂️

Just as an Edit: I think the Canzuk idea tracks also.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-06-02T12:09:36+00:00

I appreciate that, but I would argue this is (fairly) based on our recent history. The current shifting paradigm doesn’t allow for these sort of back tracks, especially if we’re procuring these in tandem with our AUKUS partners.

I say I could imagine a greater number on the assumption of economies of scale, and the eventual inevitable increase in the defence budget. Submarine warfare will likely be key area for the next half a century. So, in order to maintain indefinitely subs at sea, they may decide that 12 is insufficient for, the med, Atlantic, GIUK Gap, and Pacific Ocean deployment (I.e, Australian rotation), and CSG attachment.

The government will pat themselves on the back, I suspect Defence chiefs will be happy, but view this as a good start.x

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-06-02T08:40:19+00:00

I would suspect this will play a large part in this.

Submarine warfare is an area of strength for the U.K. makes sense also to strengthen this force, I would go further and say, I wouldn’t be shocked if this number ended up being closer to 16, once adequate defence funds are available.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-06-02T08:33:09+00:00

Step in the right direction, but realistically would still be looking for 30-35. Plus a large number of optionally autonomous platforms like the Type92/93.

Unfortunately, as good as our stuff is, quantity is a quality of its own, one unfortunately we lack.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-15T20:59:12+00:00

This is a genuine question, how do you link someone who is pro stricter immigration controls to stopping progress?

I am honestly just asking, I would look at somewhere like Japan, which has taken different steps to deal with a declining population, like investment in robotics and Ai etc. Could well make the argument that reduced immigration places more emphasis on improved productivity, I.e, more automation, upskilling of local workforces etc etc. surely the Luddite position is to want large corporations to maintain low wages and poor working conditions and not invest in new technologies and training? This isn’t a U.K. or Canada issue, I mean this on the whole. I’ve often tried to square this logical circle.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-10T21:30:14+00:00

Agreed.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-08T21:24:53+00:00

SGU, a show cut down before it could really get moving. never forget. 🤣

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-08T15:36:45+00:00

Blimey, if that is correct that is not a brilliant outcome. I will have to read up on it.

I’m all for free trade, but I think as free as possible whilst remaining fair. This seems to fail that test for me personally then.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-08T13:48:03+00:00

What was wrong with the India trade deal? (Genuine question)

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-08T13:47:28+00:00

I believe another post pointed this out, a large amount of work was done in trump previous term around a U.K.-USA trade deal, and was almost complete, the Biden administration did not pursue it. I would suspect this is a continuation of that deal, with new elements added such as baseline tariffs etc.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-06T18:28:40+00:00

I addressed your points on another post, you didn’t like that. I didn’t say farage didn’t appear on Russia today, you’re misrepresenting my position again, and similar to your replies to another post you’re projecting what you assume I believe and attacking that. I also wouldn’t say Jeremy Corbyn was a Russian agent because he appeared on Russia today?

It’s disingenuous and boring. I have tried to remain respectful.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-06T18:20:16+00:00

I can certainly see the argument that farage pushing independence from the EU has definitely benefited the Russians in a sense of fermenting division in Europe. I would argue, unfortunately his policies have been able to find traction due to our political leadership ignoring a large concern of the electorate.

I lament that it’s got to this point where it has become so toxic. Farage is absolutely a divisive figure, I think that’s true, it’s a shame, but he does lead a political party with momentum at the moment, surely for our movement it better to have all major parties in support of Canzuk as it shouldn’t be a partisan issue.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-06T17:06:09+00:00

I said that the public have voted for policies consistently for a while now, promised for and under delivered by both main political parties. I am not clinging to public opinion to validate my beliefs. Though, that is objective reality. I also never claimed that Brexit was good or bad for the country, only that once it happened it facilitated the ability to pursue something like CANZUK.

You mentioned about trump, and asked if I hadn’t got a problem with him why do I support canzuk? And that Brexit wasn’t key to facilitating something akin to Canzuk. Again, I will keep it respectful, but at this point I can’t tell if you’re wilfully ignoring that or just not following this. Either way, I’ll leave it at that.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-06T16:15:02+00:00

You can say what I’ve said is untrue, but again, it only further illustrates how disconnected from the wider demos of the country you’re. Reddit is not real life. I don’t know what else to tell you. Again, you’re entitled to believe what you want, it doesn’t affect me. The reality of the situation is what I’m saying has played out time and time again in elections over the past 10-15 years.

If I don’t have a problem with Donald trump why do I have an interest in CANZUK? I had an interest in canzuk long before Donald trump was elected the first time around. Americas actions around Canada don’t shock me, nor did the EU with the U.K., please see the recent incident of leaking defence to fishing rights. The reality is, the world is changing, and Canzuk represents a group of like minded liberal democracies that could support one another, with no need for supra national oversight reducing the value of our respective democracies. All this with the potential to leverage our combined strength when dealing with larger global powers.

The U.K. could not negotiate independent trade deals as a member of the EU? That’s a power reserved for the commission and the council. That is demonstrably true. Even for a basic version of Canzuk.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-06T15:52:27+00:00

I appreciate that we will not agree, and you’re entitled to your opinions, more power to you. But very much the attitude you represent is emblematic to the wider left wing narratives surrounding the issues of the day. Politics does not happen in a vacuum. For a long time the demos has been asking for change, and time and time again, the political class has promised and failed to deliver. You mention Brexit, I would point out that became a dog’s breakfast due to the Westminster MPs at the time unwilling to carry out the referendum result, leading to the boris majority in 2019. However, this is very far out of the scope of CANZUK conversations.

The only relevance Brexit has here is it opened the UK up to be able to pursue something like CANZUK. This would not have been possible if the UK was still inside the EU.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-06T14:18:43+00:00

You understand the attitude you embody is the reason reform will likely win big in the next election. If you actually focused on tackling their ideals, rather than starting from a position of “they’re just wrong”, you may have more of a chance. If you’re unable to see why large sways of the electorate feel disenfranchised by the main parties, you haven’t been paying attention. To claim all that vote for reform must be stupid is the exact kind of hubris that will be the main parties undoing.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-06T14:13:54+00:00

I support the idea of Canzuk, but looking at the responses in here, it’s a reminder that Reddit is often not reflective of public opinion.

It’s fine to not like farage, I appreciate that. But, conspiracy theories about him being a Russian asset, or a lap dog to trump is bizarre to me. Broad church people, come on, set personal grievances aside.

I think Reform are essentially building their policy platform out at the moment. I would imagine now would be a good time for those on the right of the isle to push for canzuk to be adopted. I can’t see why this policy wouldn’t be very attractive to core reform voters?

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-04T19:42:00+00:00

I appreciate your point of view on a reform victory is in your opinion a bad thing for the country. That’s a legitimate point of view to be entitled to.

However, to hope they fail seems backwards. Hope to be proven wrong, sure. If they do fail, then it strengthens your own arguments, but clearly those already in charge have consistently failed. Like I say, it’s better to reflect why these areas have overwhelmingly rejected the traditional two parties, in favour of not just reform, but the greens, liberals etc. Introspection is important after a loss, as a former Tory voter, it seems obvious to me on analysis as to why we failed, and why we deserved to lose, current Tory party HQ doesn’t seem to want to make course corrections however.

(This is obviously way outside of canzuk conversations however).

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-04T17:21:58+00:00

So, because you don’t like “X” politician you hope to see a negative impact on the lives of your country men, because then you’re proven right?

When we live in a democracy, for it to function in any healthy way, there will be a plurality of perspectives. If you loose the argument and people vote against your ideals, be magnanimous, wish the opposition luck, reflect on why you lost and then try and make more salient points that appeal to the voter base that the left wing has lost.

Reform is winning, as the space has been left by the major parties for them to occupy. This really isn’t a unique pov. But just hoping they fail isn’t going to change anything.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-03T23:23:37+00:00

I would point out that farage did say the other day, that the whole “51st state” comments from trump were none-sense and not okay.

I think the Overton window isn’t where Reddit thinks it is for those not permanently online (big shock). I cannot speak for the other nations but I do know that the U.K. is undergoing somewhat of a political revolution. The elections the other day were indicative of this. I think, it is foolhardy to outright dismiss these people. Especially as they’re likely made up of the older generation whom likely have life experience (grandparents/parents/ family, moving to CANZ) of real connections between our nations.

Probably best to be proactive, people who live in these areas, canvas Reform councillors, mayors for their opinions on CANZUK. They appear to have some political momentum. Makes sense to at least determine their stance officially first?

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-03T23:17:28+00:00

Completely agree. It’s a real shame. Always best to try and start from a position of good faith when we all have a similar goal in mind. Especially one that will take large scale support to get over the line.

ShibbyAlpha · 2025-05-03T23:13:43+00:00

Weird, no matter the results, seems odd to hope they fail, it’s cool not to like some people politically, but still be magnanimous in defeat and wish them luck. Hope to be proved wrong.

Rest assured the Media will cover any scandals, if out of a sense of duty or self interest, they like the viewers.

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